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lol i have just checked out the instrux for installing a second HD in the mini and..... fuck that

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

v4h1d i'd imagine your machine would be plenty fast. RAM maxed out? 10% free on HD? you could try getting a faster and bigger HD maybe..

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

i have 2x2 gb ... does this go up to 2x4 gb?

CS5 is actually really zippy, oddly what seems to crawl is the OS and stuff like iphoto and iwork. that would indicate i need more HD?

maybe i should get an SSD

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

^

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I just want the bare bones mini with a goddamn SSD, why is the universe conspiring against me??

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

for what a mini with SSD costs i may as well just get an air!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

why not get an air and plug it into a cheap monitor?

max, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

yes, that's sort of what i'm thinking

my days of knowing where the "spudger" tool is in my house are behind me, i think

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

it seems like lion is built for a different machine, no matter what i try to do to tune it up lion just crawls.

― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, September 30, 2011 11:37 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

probably because of the full HD. you don't have enough virtual ram/swap space

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

a 500 gb hard drive is like $50 now, p cheap. if you have a unibody the swap is pretty easy to do, just need a torx mini screwdriver.

you can remove the optical drive while you're in there and swap in a drive caddy, carry around 2 HDs in yer mac.

use time machine or super duper to clone the old drive to the new. voila!

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

drive caddies are cheap now too [via ebay] like $20

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

vahid, if you need hard drive space and want reasonable performance increase (not ssd levels) get one of those momentus xt drives. I have that + 8GB in a MBP from... uh, 2009? Works great.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

btw 8GB of memory is like $50

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

thinking abt putting a drive caddy w/an ssd drive in my mbp to run the system stuff and keeping all my files on the 1tb drive thats already in there, what i really want is an air tho

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

airs are pretty sweet def

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

maybe i am getting carried away... maybe i don't need all the razzmatazz. what if i don't get an SSD, am i gonna die? no. maybe i should just get a cheap mini + monitor. all the same, given my past form this is gonna be my computer for the next six years...

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

who wants to buy a 1 y/o mbp!

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

u should get an imac tracer serious

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

all this is reminding me of my freshman year roommate's advice, still sage today: "don't ask yourself what computer you want, find out how much you can spend, and then just buy that"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

My new desktop PC at work has a SSD and since 90% of my work is doing stuff in an IDE that recompiles shit constantly... my life is about one million times better now.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really notice a big diff between my air w/ the ssd and my mbp w/ a magnet drive, the only diff is in opening apps

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

It really depends what kind of apps you run! Also, if you reboot it's a lot faster with a SSD.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but the point of having a mac is to NEVER REBOOT

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

most of my work consists of not doing any work and reading this one plain txt message bord, described as a percentage how much more efficient will i be w/a ssd

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

i keep oscillating. starting to come back around to the imac. and then my latent SSD-want kicks up, and i'm faced with shit like this, which makes me pull my hair out:

1TB Serial ATA Drive
2TB Serial ATA Drive [+ £112.80]
256GB Solid State Drive [+ £375.60]
1TB Serial ATA Drive + 256GB Solid State Drive [+ £451.20]
2TB Serial ATA Drive + 256GB Solid State Drive [+ £564.00]

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i want SSD - i have even convinced myself i need it - but do i really want to spend the price of a 1999 Ford Fiesta on it?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

honestly I don't think the SSD tradeoff is worth it unless you are a pro photoshop or final cut user

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

one pro of the mac mini is that everything, including the monitor, is discrete and replaceable should it breaks. imacs are all or nothing after applecare is over, yeah?

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

yep

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

well I guess a fried logic board (aka motherboard) is a fried logic board. but a ram/hd would be pretty swappable in a mini if you had a spudger. think you need like magnets and suction cups and a crowbar to get into an imac

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

by the way i have an Expresscard SSD drive for sale if anyone wants it. never used. it will work on any Macbook with an Expresscard slot (except the very first two Macbooks ever produced, i.e. 1.1 and 1.2, i.e. mine)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

it is a FileMateSolidGO 48GB

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

reckon you should just get the base mini with the 7200rpm hard drive and all the accessories you like

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 30 September 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

discarding my SSD dreams is making things a lot clearer, and that ^ is a compelling case.

thanks for all the hand-holding everybody

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think dayo has actually used a SSD so ymmv

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

lol I am posting from one right now. yay my apps open 2 seconds faster. what else is a SSD going to help with if you're just browsing the web or word processing? I'd trade an SSD for a fat pipe any day.

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Listen, is there any reason that if I wanted a Mini, I would need the Lion server option? For ilx and streaming movies/watching DVDs and storing music/photos on?

Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

I am like the Everybody's Mom of computer usage. Or the Morbius. Or something.

Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

xx-post Low power consumption, no file fragmentation issues, more lightweight. I mean, still might not be issues, but hey... I don't even think the MBA would have space inside for a traditional drive.

Laurel, you have absolutely no need, and if at any point you did, the server stuff is a downloadable add-on pack with Lion, anyway.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I've always wanted a mac laptop and I've never been able to even remotely pay for one, so I'm always wondering how to magically put together a package I can afford. Will keep thinking abt it!

Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

lol I don't begrudge the SSD in my air but at the same time it's not making me run towards swapping a SSD into my mbp. paying a 10x premium on price per gigabyte for getting rid of file fragmentation issues? no thanks

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

laurel I'd look into apple refurbished - significant discounts sometimes and they come with 1 year apple backed warranties. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=OTY2ODY3Nw

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

Thx, dayo! I don't have $900 either but it is less than $1500!

Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

mh, maybe you can help me understand this about SSDs. let's say that I am a heavy user of editing software like lightroom or photoshop or final cut. I keep all my files stored on an external or maybe even on the same computer but on a traditional, magnet based hard disk. once the app is up and running, what advantages does an SSD offer over running the programs off a traditional hard drive?

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Those programs tend to use a "scratch disk" area fairly heavily during editing. I can't speak definitively, and my own SSD use has been mostly related to running files off the actual drive.

When you're doing software builds where it's touching a thousand 10K files... well, that's where my pro-SSD bias is coming from.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeah - I assume pro setups have 10k rpm scratch disks set up or they pony up for the 500GB SSDs and transfer files on/off as required by the editing process. I was annoyed that for a home setup, even after spending $200 on a SSD, there is still a bottleneck in the shuttling back and forth of files between yer SSD and the HD you're keeping your files on. I'd much rather spend the money on more RAM! RAM!

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

HAHAHAHA

Sorry man, that may be true for a small outlier of independent pro contractors or heavy video use, but I have never heard of a shop or corporation that shells out for anything near that good.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

That said, everyone's a prosumer now!

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

ssd >>>>>> hard drives, for everything except size. It makes so much shit so much ridiculously faster.

I've got a smallish SSD boot drive, then three disks raided together in the other bays, and you can *still* tell when an app's running from the raid.

once the app is up and running, what advantages does an SSD offer over running the programs off a traditional hard drive?
Apps are continually reading stuff from their .app folders, and Adobe ones hit the disk pretty hard. Also helps a lot when switching between apps, as one app's memory is written out to disk and another one is read in.

stet, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

Tracer: if you don't like glossy screens why even bother with an iMac? The screens aren't all that, anyway. They're better than they were, though -- the original 20" alu-iMac's screen was atrocious.

stet, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link


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