Not owning a television: c or d?

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what does the H. stand for?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

what does the H. stand for?

Are you bening serious?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

what does the H. stand for?
proof positive of how TV erodes attention spans.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nor having a tv makes those moments when you do watch tv a thousand times more interesting. Because tv is completely psychotic. But if you watch it regularly, you get used to it.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

you will take my tv and cable package from me when you can pry it from my dead cold fingers.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

my friend M. (who collects celebrity undergotch) once told me the he believes he has an "inalienable right to free cable."

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

what does the M. stand for?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't watch much TV, really.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

what does the T. stand for?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's silent.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have a TV but no cable. And that's a good thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't watch much telly.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Telly Savalas?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't watch much television.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe once my batch-pad is in full swinging effect, you could come over and we could not watch TV, Telly, or Television, together.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone here other than me know what undergotch is?

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's a deal, H.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know what it is?
I thought I just mashed gotch up against underwear. I guess really, undergotch could be literally WHAT'S UNDER GOTCH. That's gross.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

On one hand, TV is evil and takes time away from more useful endeavors, ie., reading, playing music, etc. Almost all of it is horrible and embarassing.

On the other hand, some TV is good, and sometimes you just want to be a lazy bastard and let someone else entertain you without having to do any work at all. Plus, people who carp on about how they never watch TV or don't own a TV or whatever are fucking annoying.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I need my tv for movie-watching. I love renting movies. I don't know what I'd do without it. Going out to watch movies is so expensive.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can imagine not having TV, but it's an unpleasant thought. I love (NFL) football and would have to go to a sportsbar or some shit to watch it. I really need to find something else to do with my life.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

The first night I had TV after a few years w/o, I stayed up until 5 a.m. watching it.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, she gets the TV, but I get the computer. I guess my idle hours will be spent spewing out lame lame jokes about undergotch to an uncaring ILX world.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Occasionally I get my nuts real close to the tv and get a little static shock.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not owning a TV -- neither classic nor dud. Getting more work done, or doing more things you're happy about doing, cause you aren't watching TV -- classic.

People who really strongly self-identify with "not watching TV" (not anyone on this thread just far, just what the title made me think of) -- dud, little different from the "I'm too macho to read books" guys I used to run into.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was thinking that another thing I could with all that extra time I'll have post-TV is call up people and let them know that I'm not watching TV.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am going to get rid of my TV. I am also going to get rid of all my books and records and spend my evenings staring into the corner. I am insane.

j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

And of course, I'd being in my undergotch.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you didn't have TV you wouldn't be able to partake of the Great Canadian tradition of renting Slap Shot and drinking to the point of spontaneous urination.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fantasic, Horace. Are they Spider Man Underoos? You could always get yourself a TV tuner card.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nothing wrong with someone not owning a TV simply because they hate it. But I've known at least one person whose non-TV-ownership status was, to them, some kind of position of smug, intellectual superiority, i.e. 'I don't need such tawdry filth in this house.'

That is definitely DUD.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Undergotch=funny

"Undergotching"=The new pantsing?

Horace=Whose [undergotch] does M have?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I need skysports, I need all the Music channels, I need the food channel, I need the Simpsons, I need Globe Trekker. I could go on. I love tv.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

We use gotch and gitch interchangably here. Some guys used to take wedgies to the next level when I was in high school and actually rip the gitch off of guys. Seemed like an expression of latent unresolved gay tendencies.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dud, if only so I can watch Baseball Tonight.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nothing wrong with someone not owning a TV simply because they hate it. But I've known at least one person whose non-TV-ownership status was, to them, some kind of position of smug, intellectual superiority, i.e. 'I don't need such tawdry filth in this house.'

Bingo. This is a huge pet peeve with me for some reason (maybe partly because I was a pop culture major, and am sick of "all TV is crap," which is as sensible as "all writers are Jackie Collins") -- an ex once proudly proclaimed that she had never heard of Leonardo DiCaprio and couldn't pick him out of a line-up ... something she managed to work into casual conversation regularly, to display her "I'm a citizen of Academia, not your world" badge. We were not together long.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

i am the man to talk to. i have never had a telly, save for 2 years of my life at uni. (when ed spent most of the time watching news 24). i dont think i've come out of he experience some sort of freak, althoughi did read a lot as a kid, and we used to sit round the radio at night, which is a bit weird. the 'outsider in the school playground' experience, whilst everyone talks about neighbours (or even worse, last nights 'the word' - having the vague impression that something incredibly cool and NOW is happening and not knowing anythoing about it), is all too familiar to me, Tuomas.

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't like television. I bought mine so I could watch Buffy and Angel but I don't watch them anymore. I watch MTV about once a fortnight and that's it. MTV's not much better than the radio except there's pretty pictures, there's more R&B/HipHop type stuff, there's less ads and there's no news. Also, it makes me feel like a teenager. I could easily get my once fortnightly MTV fix at a friend's place if I wanted though, so really I have no use for the television.

toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

c. I really don't care abt TV anymore. even though i have one.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

M. has artifacts of Christina Ricci, Winona Ryder, Pamela Anderson, and Cher.
He's an ebay addict. And, needless to say, a bachelor.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

90% of TV is rubbish, obviously. But it's worth it for that other 10%. It may be rather shallow, but I'd feel incredibly disconnected without out, and I feel disconnected enough already.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

without it, even.

I'm still available for proofreading services, BTW. :)

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Foir the last three years I've lived in the country, in a little valley that precludes aerial reception, and on a road that has no cable. I could get a dish antenna, but I just draw the line there, for some reason. So am I getting tons more work done? Ha. I just bring my addictive personality here instead.

Methuselah (Methuselah), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

not owning a TV - classic

thinking that you will engage in loads of improving activities because you don't own a TV - dud

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Owning a TV and hardly ever watching it -- classic. I mean, modern TVs make great ornaments!

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I keep forgetting I have a TV.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have a TV but rarely watch it. I used to have 'expanded basic' cable, and I got this channnel that showed reruns of Law and Order almost every night and I loved that cuz that's my favorite show. I recently downgraded to just basic cable which is much cheaper, but I haven't seen Law and Order since then. Last night it was on and I got kind of excited, but then I fell asleep before it came on.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't own a television. Haven't, in fact, ever lived in a household with one except for a few years from the ages of about 13 to 17. I honestly doubt that I'm missing all that much.
However, I can certainly empathize with Tuomas. There have been many times (particularly when I was a wee m. instead of a big M.) that I felt a bit of a pop-culture cripple.

Oh, and that self-righteous smugness that Tep was referring to is definately a huge DUD.

M., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I dunno, people who watch tv and expect everyone to share their hobby and make people feel bad and alienated because they don't watch "Friends" = bigger DUD. I'd rather people be self-satisfied about not watching tv than about watching it.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know what you mean, but it's not really a binary proposition. It's like saying you prefer people who don't read anything to people who grab you by the hand and insist on telling you the latest gossip from the National Enquirer as if it were gospel. The worst and most visible of a medium isn't the whole of the medium. I'm most comfortable with people who are literate across different media; I watch more television than most people I know, but I read more books, too, and listen to a wider range of music. That's just what I do - my blind spots are in other areas.

(And like a few people have said, "watching TV" often means "watching movies" or "watching sports," without having to go to the theater or the park.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

i own a very small tv set that has been in my storage closet since, i don't know, hockey playoffs a couple of years ago? (when you couldn't watch hockey online anywhere). i've never had cable in my own home in my entire adult life! whoa! which explains why when i go over to a friend's house and there is cable, i flip channels for an hour like it's going out of style. which is does in an hour.

i would pay for certain shows and even access to whole cable channels if such a thing were available via internet in canada - like, we just got freakin netflix a few months ago and it's remarkably lacking compared to US netflix - TV and internet regulations in this country are pretty o_O at the moment (e.g., corporate monopolies on phone lines and cable, bandwidth choking in full effect, etc.)
i think the screen on my macbookpro is pretty damn good anyway. i guess if i played these new-fangled video games i would think differently.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

I don't find the "I don't own a TV" people to be weird, but of the four people I've known that don't own one, three of them take every single opportunity to remind me that they don't own one and are "so much better off" without it.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't had cable for years myself, and at least in the beginning it was sort of an ideological thing although now I'm just used to it. But I've talked to a bunch of people who are a bit younger than me (early to mid 20s) who have absolutely no ideological reason not to have television, but have chosen not to have cable anyway because it's expensive and they can save money by just using a boxee box or whatever.

― relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I'm probably about in this group. we had tv at our last place cause our roommates had cable and I only really watched sports + the daily show. I'm not ideologically opposed to tv and if I had infinite money I would probably have a set and cable and watch once in a while. but being that I can get most things I want to watch on my computer anyway, no way I'm gonna bother.

the girl likes the food network a lot, though.

iatee, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I have ever told someone "I don't haveeee a tv" even in periods of my life when I didn't have one. it's not an important thing to me either way. it makes it easier to watch sports, that's about it.

like, I don't think it's a conversation people my age would have with our people our age. not having the internet / a computer / cell phone is a 'thing'. not having a tv is like not having a radio, who cares.

iatee, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

err minus one 'our'

iatee, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

I think there are fewer big omnipresent tv-related cultural things these days - there's no show that *everyone you know* watches. and if there is it's some easy-to-watch on dvd/online show like mad men.

iatee, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I do know a couple of people who refuse to watch "tv shows" and I find this kind of obtuse. Like, the fact that something is broadcast rather than shown in a theater doesn't affect its quality -- I mean ok it means it's serialized, but so was Dickens.

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i don't get that. except that some people are snobs, of course!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

or have no interest in the long-form/serialized drama

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

if I'm curious about some weird catchphrase I hear people repeating, I can just search it on Youtube and most likely find a clip that explains it.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:02 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kinder, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

That explains why we haven't heard from him as much lately.

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

A child's view:

http://minimalmac.com/post/18189678921/tv-is-broken

(more on commercial/broadcast/cable television than on television, I guess)

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

people who hate on people who don't have tvs are the worst most self-satisfied clowns

coal, Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

One of the weird things I find in lunchroom conversations is that people who have cable (and btw, more people than I would think do not have it) tend to talk extensively about shows they don't even like that much. TV in a non-on-demand format is so much about just having something to watch/talk about. It's like you never break out of Saturday morning cartoons mode (oh, Gummi Bears is on, I don't like it that much but this cereal is really good).

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

That piece should have been titled "Stupid Child Doesn't Know What Advertising Is, and Stupid Parent is Too Stupid To Explain."

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

The child btw at least has the excuse of being four years old.

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

There are also commercials on Hulu.

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

Does anyone else find that the longer you are completely away from television, the more sublimely strange and absurd every single bit of it seems? When I'm in hotels now I enjoy just flipping the channels and watching little snatches of almost anything -- a bad crime drama, a butt-blaster workout infomercial, a middling talk show, a context-free bit of a dating reality show. I find myself hearing music in the exaggerated way the lines are spoken, I see weird and unbelievable facial reactions and want to loop them.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

Like for example I flipped to some show on Ion where there was this really contrived standoff scene outside a house and the one impossibly pretty lady cop made this just subtly too pouty face for a cop in a standoff, and I found it hilarious. Or recently I was watching some show I can't even remember where Mario Battali was on as a side guy, and the main guy was giving all these recipes and party tips but it was the stupidest shit ever, like he had this idea that you should print out all of your guest's photos from social media and put them under a sheet of glass or plexi on a table that you use as your bar, and all the recipes were like not actually recipes at all, just combining a couple of different things on a toothpick or that sort of thing. And the whole time Battali looked just slightly irritated that he had to be on this jerkoff's show.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link

Or even just the slightly David Lynchian vibe that I get from the Property Brothers. All that kind of stuff, it just gives off such strong vibes for me not being accustomed to it anymore.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah i get this in hotel rooms. Flip through channels once or twice for the absurd weirdness but can't stand it for more than a few minutes. Unless it's the golden girls.

riverine (map), Thursday, 30 June 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

Wicker tropical plants and satin in that studio tv lighting are very soothing to me.

riverine (map), Thursday, 30 June 2016 04:23 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Lady in movie theater speaking loudly to her small child: "this is a commercial. You don't know what that is because WE don't watch television."

— Sara Vilkomerson (@Vilkomerson) December 17, 2017

mookieproof, Sunday, 17 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

That lady seems very irritable. tbf, commercials can have that effect on people.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

One of the reasons I think “we don’t let our child watch television / eat junk food / whatever” borders on negligent - when the kid leaves the bubble eventually they have no skills for dealing with the finely honed addiction machines of society. Watching crap television and taking the piss with your children seems much more useful.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 17 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

kids learn and grow, they will be fine without bingewatching at 9

Simon H., Sunday, 17 December 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

On the infrequent occasions where I’m exposed to commercials these days I experience a profound sense of alienation from the broader culture, combined with serious dismay that I ever put up with them as a child and young adult, before the streaming era.

.oO (silby), Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

On the other hand I could probably record a podcast spot for Casper or Leesa without any copy in front of me so I’m hardly pure

.oO (silby), Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

how big would you say the box a Leesa comes in would be?

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 17 December 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

so i bought one of those fancy 4k tv's and i love it

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

this thread isn't about owning a tv, it's about not owning a tv

j., Friday, 21 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

damn u blew me w yr logic bro

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

well so i'm just sayin, tell us about your reflections on your prior state, before your world was forever changed

j., Friday, 21 September 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link

didnt kno i luved it till i tried it

the ol adage dont knock it till u try it cums to mind

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link

what 4k material are you watching?

most people suggested at the time that the difference from 2 to 4k would be minimal and stuff like HDR would mean much more

niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

Ps4 pro

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link

aaaah nice

niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

It’s also hdr btw

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

the console for PRO gamers :P

niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

yeah makes sense

how big is the screen?

niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

In terms of movies, some of the new action ones do look better, but they’re only a handful

It’s only a 50 inch which is my only concern

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

I remember when a 27" screen was considered "big."

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S09E17/931029.jpg?b64lines=V0hBVCBBIFRJTUUKIFRPIEJFIEFMSVZFLg==

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link

50 looks small

But it might be bc we have a lot of 65+s all over work so im used to seeing those

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

i've had a 27-inch TV for the past 12 years and it still works/looks great. Once you output the sound to the stereo movies become VERY IMMERSIVE despite the screen size.

that said i have been kind of looking forward to the day it breaks so that i can get a 40-inch TV (the largest my living room will accommodate) - but i'm not in a rush; they still don't make OLEDs that size

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

Believe me, finding a small TV (21 inch and less) is much tougher than finding a large TV these days.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

I haven't owned a television in over ten years, but I did get a projector early this year. Being able to watch movies on the side of a wall (or on the side of my garage) has improved things so much that I can't see ever getting a dedicated TV now.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

i have don't even owned a tv since the mid 90s but i've been dreaming about getting a sound bar or something for my laptop

j., Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

Second that projector motion
The only way to watch ghost in the shell at home

calstars, Saturday, 22 September 2018 02:08 (five years ago) link


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