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People forget Clarkson, the man is probably by a fair distance Britain's most "powerful" journalist (and he came up through journo college and the local newspapers like you're meant to as well).

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sure The Lex will be along to defend Phillips in a bit.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Why? Does she like Paris Hilton too?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

From a hack standpoint, watching Littlejohn try and alter his rhetoric since moving from The Sun to the Mail has been pretty fascinating. He doesn't fit in at the mail, it's like watching some scally squeezed into a Matalan suit for a court appearance. He does his best work as the White Van Man spokesperson, not for people who suffer heart attacks every time the house price market changes slightly. More builder's tea than Whittards.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

what does Garry Bushell do now he's apparently no longer a TV critic?

Why don't they have as big "voices" as their American counterparts?

they literally have less reach? not as big a field to operate in? the media is 'bigger' in the US?

blueski, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Simon Heffer is too much of a hilarious cartoon villain to be properly annoying

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, could yr Bill O'Reillies or yr Anne Coulters drop gems like this?

Let's get the caveat out of the way from the off. The five women murdered in Ipswich were tragic, lost souls who met a grisly end. I sincerely hope whoever killed them is caught, charged and convicted.

No one with a shred of humanity would wish upon them their ghastly lives and horrible deaths. But Mother Teresa, they weren't.

And I know this might sound frightfully callous in the current hysterical, emotional climate, but we're not all guilty.

We do not share in the responsibility for either their grubby little existences or their murders. Society isn't to blame.

It might not be fashionable, or even acceptable in some quarters, to say so, but in their chosen field of "work'=", death by strangulation is an occupational hazard.

That doesn't make it justifiable homicide, but in the scheme of things the deaths of these five women is no great loss.

They weren't going to discover a cure for cancer or embark on missionary work in Darfur. The only kind of missionary position they undertook was in the back seat of a car.

Of course their friends and families are grieving. That's what friends and families do. But they should also be asking themselves if there was anything they could have done to prevent what happened.

If you discovered your daughter had gone on the game to feed her heroin habit, wouldn't you move heaven and earth to get her off it?

Frankly, I'm tired of the lame excuses about how they all fell victim to ruthless pimps who plied them with drugs. These women were on the streets because they wanted to be.

We are all capable of free will. At any time, one or all of them could have sought help from the police, or the church, or a charity, or a government agency specifically established to deal with heroin addicts. They chose not to.

The tortuous twistings of the sisterhood over the past week have been a joy to behold. The 30-yearold Spare Rib T-shirts have been brought out of mothballs and we've been treated to the All Men Are Bastards/Rapists/Murderers mantra from assorted Glendas who ought to be old enough to know better.

We've heard the well-rehearsed arguments for legalised and regulated prostitution, as if we were living under the Taliban. The fact is, we've already got de facto legal brothels on every High Street.

They're call saunas or massage parlours.

As I remarked when the Labour MP Joe Ashton was once caught in a Siamese "sauna" in Northampton, he must have been the only man in Britain ever to go to a massage parlour for a massage. It doesn't get much more glamorous than that.

These five women were on the streets because even the filthiest, most disreputable back-alley "sauna" above a kebab shop wouldn't give them house room.

The men who used them were either too mean to fork out whatever a massage parlour charges, or simply weren't fussy. Some men are actually turned on by disgusting, drug-addled street whores. Where there's demand, there'll always be supply.

This wasn't a case of women going on the game to put bread on the table, or to look after their "babies". That's what the welfare state is for. They did it for drugs.

The gormless Guardianistas simply refuse to confront this blindingly obvious reality. They would rather deify celebrity druggies such as Kate Moss and Will Self than face the truth that hard drugs wreck lives.

What I find most objectionable about all this is the attempt to make us all feel responsible for the murders. There is a nasty whiff of Lady Di about the enforced mood of mourning, with even the Old Bill coming across like hand-wringing archbishops.

At Ipswich Town's home game on Saturday, there was a minute's silence. We were supposed to believe that this was a true reflection of the community's sympathy.

I don't buy it. Most people went along with it in the spirit of emotional correctness and through fear of getting their heads kicked in if they didn't.

There was only one thing missing, but don't bet against it.

When Blair gets back from saving the Middle East, don't be surprised if he turns up at the funeral of one of these unfortunate women to deliver a lip-trembling, tear-stained eulogy: "She was the People's Prostitute".

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe difference between US "what the government is doing is right but it is being hampered by imaginary lefty conspiracy" vs UK's more marginalised "everything everyone does is wrong and gives you cancer, whatever happened to the good old days wahhh"

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

old people: who did the mail / sun tilt against during the thatcher years? the oppositon?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The unions

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Looney Left, Militant up in Liverpool, Red Ken down in London. "THEY'RE BANNING OUR KIDS FROM SINGING "BAA BAA BLACK SHEEP"" political correctness gone mad stuff.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

And, yeah, Scargill obviously.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Ginger lefties

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Argies

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link

jon gaunt

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

And blacks.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits don't have quite the sway in the UK they have in the U.S. because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain. The UK doesn't have that gigantic Jesus-and-gun-loving constituency that exists in the U.S.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain

What?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You heard me.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

The whole political compass = right of centre main parties + "extremist crackpots"

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Little" being the operative word

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

skewed towards the US left, i.e. the right by any 20th century standard.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Talking of crackpots, get a read of the Scottish Christian Party manifesto:

9. Prisons
The Scottish Christian Party believes that the much needed extra prison
capacity should be purchased from developing countries for the purpose
of catering for Scotland’s medium Security Prisons. This should take the
form of building state of the art prison facilities in developing countries
that wish to host Scottish Prisons.
Advantages would include:
1. Less overcrowded prisons, cheaper costs and greater efficiency
2. More resources at home to look after our worst offenders properly
3. More economic trade instead of aid handouts to developing
countries
4. Raising prison standards in developing countries by example and
the provision of expertise.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

They say this is no different to setting up call centres abroad.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

'by any 20th century standard'

what now?

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

do they have less sway cos the most emotive right / left battles have been "won"? ie the unions, the acceptability of prejudice? i think they are "learning" from the american's clarkson's whole schtick is provication isn't it, look how angry i can make these daft eco-nuts!

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Between 1980 and the present the whole political spectrum in the western world has been drifting rightwards back into liberalism (with certain conservative tendencies)

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

british journalism is more frivolous and clubbable than US journalism. all UK hacks know each other. this probably isn't so much the case in the states.

yes ed i know. but the idea that liberalism is the worst the 20th century right has to offer is batshit insane. as is the idea that welfare capitalism was some kind of 'left'. even without factoring in the fact that at the start of the century liberalism was kind of... left-wing.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

outsourcing prisons to eastern european countries in the EC - who will be the first New Labour or Tories?

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Send 'em all to Botany Bay.

I think for historical reasons the U.S. has this strong libertarian streak (ie right to bear arms etc.) coupled with a strong religious/puritan streak. Put the two together and they coelesce into a very strong, very dynamic right-wing culture that simply doesn't exist in the UK. And that's why rightwing pundits don't have so much sway. I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

Not where it matters he isn't

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits have an absolute fuckload of sway, party politics is an irrelevence here. Ask White Van Man what he thinks about asylum seekers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I would say that liberalism was progressive not left- wing per say. And whether or not you think 'welfare capitalism' is of the left or not, the centre is to the right of even that now.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost to Tom D.

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

british reactionary right is xenophobic and defensive rather than on constant attack like the americans?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

We'll see how good that guess is when he wins the next election. Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it. Cameron is only "radical" when it comes to wearing a wind turbine on your head or cycling backwards on a bicycle made entirely of radishes

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

You sure you're not mixing up David Cameron with John Otway?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

And Wild Willie Whitelaw?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

upthread are you dudes talking economic or social liberalism? or both?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

both

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

Sure, Cameron didn't come up with free healthcare! But the political climate is such that he'd have a hard time getting rid of it. Which underlines my point about the political background being skewed more leftwards in the UK, despite years of Thatcher/Blair.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it."

well except for things involving teeth or eyes, ie the only two things i ever go in for...

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

just going to say

Alan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

We'll see how hard a time he has getting rid of it, it'll be less hard than you think once he persuades the middle classes it's in their interest (xxpost)

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I think if it were politically possible to get rid of the NHS, it would have already been done. Anyway, doesn't Cameron have a disabled kid or something. He probably uses the NHS more than the average Tory.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

They are getting rid of it already, piece by piece

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

um guys the nhs is already on the way out...

xpost!

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

BUT immigration is the no 1 concern of uk voters! apprently. maybe my first hypothesis was v v wrong.

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Not according to the most recent polls.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

this it what corporate ghoul politicians predictably do, the time to have been shocked or alarmed was when they were taking over the Labour Party.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 October 2023 10:15 (six months ago) link

i'm still not really clear on when the Viz Top Tips fanboy decided he had important thoughts about politics tbh

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 October 2023 10:32 (six months ago) link

for years now he has always been condescending at best and mostly dismissive towards people who post about how wretched and corrupt the Labour leadership and various frontbench MPs are. And now he wants to be given a paid platform to carry on being slow on the uptake and a clueless cunt!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 October 2023 11:41 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

The shocking moment Douglas Murray's interview with Piers Morgan is interrupted by overhead fire at the Gaza border.

Piers: "Are you ok?"

Douglas: "It seemed to be coming from Gaza. Yeah it's fine, it's okay, it's been happening all day."@piersmorgan | @DouglasKMurray pic.twitter.com/rYoIk23rky

— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) November 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:33 (five months ago) link

Why is Douglas Murray at the Israel-Gaza border? Other than the obvious reason of being as near as he can get to thousands of Muslims being killed?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link

Gaza, y’all only have to be lucky once.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

Sarah Vine dines at the Garrick club

Son and dear ex, not having travelled quite so far, are already ensconced in green leather button-backs. As we cross the threshold in there’s an alarming shout: ‘It’s that Sarah Vine!’ I turn to see Kwasi Kwarteng, sitting with his lovely wife Harriet and a third party who turns out to be their vicar, positively overflowing with festive cheer. That’s the joy of somewhere like the Garrick: you never know who you’re going to bump into. On that occasion, not just the former chancellor and his spirited spiritual guide but also, and in no particular order, Sting (yes, Sting), the heavenly Lord Howard of Rising, and the ‘baby doctor’ himself, Lord [Robert] Winston.

soref, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

you go girl etc.

https://x.com/BethRigby/status/1755148799368904986?s=20

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 09:59 (two months ago) link

oh my god

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:04 (two months ago) link

Baroness Davidson of Lundin Links, I'd hoped we'd seen the last of her.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:05 (two months ago) link

I could never work out wtf Rigby's accent is supposed to be. There was some bs in The Mail about the "speech snoberry" of ppl taking the piss out of her accent. She grew up in Buckinghamshire and attended a posh girls' grammar school - so perhaps snoberry is way off the mark.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:16 (two months ago) link

lots of agreeing to agree going on here

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:20 (two months ago) link

It's because she leaves the g off words ending in -ing, like Priti Patel. It is very noticeable, perhaps because she otherwise doesn't have an especially strong accent.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:41 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Cannot think of another human, living or dead, who I despise more than Matthew Parris.

Jesus Christ Matthew Parris pic.twitter.com/OhsRVuH2Ts

— Scott Bryan (@scottygb) March 9, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:24 (one month ago) link

glad to hear from noted psychologist Matthew Parris

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:33 (one month ago) link

He's always been scum.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link

he has always been scum

the article is bullshit of course even on his own terms but journalism means never having to understand what you're writing about

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 March 2024 14:02 (one month ago) link

Cunt.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 10 March 2024 16:36 (one month ago) link

there are ppl out there that buy into this taxpayers alliance style propaganda that disability and sickness benefits could do with dragging back to pre-welfare state levels of spending and let 'em die. I got banned from another site for laying into a bigoted moron for posting vile shit like MP. The coward deleted his post (and my reply ripping it to pieces) and then used his mod privileges to ban me, lol.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 March 2024 17:37 (one month ago) link

Burning all my Holly Valance records.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:22 (one month ago) link

Valance, 40, told GB News she voted Conservative in the 2019 General Election but is now in favour of Richard Tice's party which recently welcomed MP Lee Anderson after he defected from the Tories.

"I support anybody that sort of sticks to what they believe in and isn't a turncoat," she said.

... errrrrrrrrr.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:37 (one month ago) link

Racist member of the Serb diaspora, consider me shocked

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:43 (one month ago) link

Just a friendly sieg heil each morning,
Helps to make a better day.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:12 (one month ago) link

isn't she Australian?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:17 (one month ago) link

Serbian and Australian not a great combination tbh.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:22 (one month ago) link

xp as I said, diaspora. Chetniks march in the ANZAC parade and their flags have shown up at tennis matches. Let’s just say they’re not too worried about the association.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:31 (one month ago) link

I know, just saying that when a white immigrant to the UK starts coming out with anti-immigrant rhetoric then yeah it is really very obvious as regards racist (barely) subtext. notable also that her only big hit was a cover version of a Turkish hit.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:23 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.ft.com/content/2bd751aa-e2bf-4ab6-a3d5-38fb5b571833

It is hard to establish cause and effect. Wars are so frequent that one can always be tied to a chronologically adjacent invention. Still, the west’s Long Peace more or less maps on to the stagnation that Cowen and others describe. And it is possible to theorise how war might serve as a stimulant. First, the trauma forces the imagination into new and strange places. Second, the resulting ideas are easier to sell because the ruling ideas are so tainted with blood. Third, the violence itself often gives rise to some kind of technical innovation.

In The Third Man, Orson Welles’s character observes that, while the warring states of the Italian peninsula gave us the Renaissance, serene Switzerland produced the “cuckoo clock”. (Harsh on Rousseau and Le Corbusier, that.) The film came out in 1949. A human lifetime later, he could be describing the entire western world. I am writing this on a MacBook that is much the same as the laptop I first owned a generation ago. People watch episodic TV shows, as they did in 1990, even if they do so on-demand. We who dine out most nights wait, in vain, for a new direction in the restaurant world. I now see all this sameness as the (dirt cheap) price of prolonged peace. I have no certainty that a war would be a creative stimulus, just a nauseous feeling that we are due to find out.

"our s
Obviously reactionary nutters have been writing "our society needs a war" ever since 1945, but it feels like there is a coordiation of drum-banging recently with all the conscription stuff. It's pretty chilling how desperately some people want to see Britain nuked in our lifetimes.
The above is obviously risible clickbait but I think it does lay bare some of the hidden arguments behind the acceptable liberal ones.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link

Who wrote that?

Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Monday, 8 April 2024 14:06 (one week ago) link

Janan Ganesh, sorry here's an archive link

https://archive.ph/XyWWZ

glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:09 (one week ago) link

dying at 'in vain'

plax (ico), Monday, 8 April 2024 14:11 (one week ago) link

That Janan is breathing ought to be enough reason to bring back the guillotine.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:11 (one week ago) link

the national service act can conscript those aged between 18-41, Janan is 42!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:19 (one week ago) link

i was gonna say "the new fash are deeply into cosplay militarism" but of course we can take out the "new" from that. it's a central pillar of fascism full stop. if it looks a little more ridiculous now than it did in the 1920s maybe that's just because people can see thru their shit a little more clearly

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:22 (one week ago) link

What the fuck are pro-conscriptionists even imagining? Land battles in eastern Europe? What year is this?

It's like the end of Vile Bodies when were back in the world 1914 in exactly the same conditions, just 15 years later.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link

*world of 1914

glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link

Ugh. Fucking chickenhawk.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 8 April 2024 16:14 (one week ago) link

the third man line was bullshit that welles made up during filming. i wonder how many people have died due to that scene and the idiot warmongers who think it's fact.

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 10:56 (one week ago) link

The parenthetical right after basically acknowledges it’s bullshit! Not to mention that most normal people would agree that lime is not the hero of that film

subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:07 (one week ago) link

Would you really feel any pity if a few million of those dots stop moving — forever?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:31 (one week ago) link

Yes, it's a glib self-serving line by a glib self-serving character in movie. Also have we all forgotten the Affair of the Sausages?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affair_of_the_Sausages

Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:39 (one week ago) link

i wonder how many people have died due to that scene and the idiot warmongers who think it's fact.

I think it's 0 fwiw

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 12:37 (one week ago) link

what about this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjpkoPEn0cI

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:39 (one week ago) link

A pile of free copies of The Critic has started to appear every month in the reception area of my work. Usual names on the usual themes. Woke agenda in universities/BBC/civil service. What is wrong with being elitist? Diary pieces that begin "To the theatre..." Cartoons of men on desert islands. Is there a bottomless well of this stuff? Like someone saw a gap in the market between The Oldie and The Spectator, to fill with more mid-brow right-wing STUFF, printed on paper with a nice cover. Who buys it? Who funds it?

fetter, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 13:14 (one week ago) link

Who buys it? maybe those who think of Private Eye as too woke thesedays...

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:57 (one week ago) link

lmao at "Cartoons of men on desert islands."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link

isn't the Critic funded by Jeremy Hosking? With the money he had left over after giving millions to Laurence Fox and Andrew Bridgen.

it always seems to me that the cartoons in the Spectator are better than the cartoons in Private Eye despite a lot of them being by the same cartoonists - I always wondered how many of the cartoons that appear in the Eye are ones that the Spectator has already rejected? Do cartoonists save their best stuff for the Spectator because they know the Eye's standards are lower?

soref, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 17:54 (one week ago) link


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