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When will Archers of Loaf get their much-needed resurgence? Will it take the split of the truly awful Crooked Fingers to create it?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 24 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

talk to mike daily about lifter puller

steve k (http://go.to/stevek) (stevek10), Monday, 24 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lifter Puller! I got really into them finally, in 2002. Sort of odd story. I was flipping thru the Time Out NY and there was a short article about them and their reunion show at Brownies and the coinciding release of their B-Sides collection. Anyhow, there was a photo and I thought the lead singer was really quite adorable... So I went to their website, downloaded Space Humping $19.99, loved it - went to the show - loved it - bought all the albums - loved them.

Also, I saw Craig Finn at Spa for the Har Mar Superstar show and he was loving it.

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think Crooked Fingers can split, as it's pretty much Eric Bachmann plus whomever's in the neighbourhood...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 24 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Craig and Tad Kubler have a new band called the Hold Steady, who have been gigging around NYC. They're like Lifter Puller Plus -- a lot less nimble, more bar band, pretty gruff, and Craig's lyrics are even seedier.

http://www.theholdsteady.com/

mosurock (mosurock), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like CF fine, but yeah, AoL are the shiznit. I'm not the only one who heard a lot of Archers in LP, obv--one reason I love the Pullah so much.

My description of the Hold Steady show I caught last week is at indierock is shithot right now!. They roxor the big one, without doubt, can't wait to see/hear more.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best band of the last ten years or so, as I'm always saying to whoever is unfortunate enough to be around when I get going on the subject

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

that silence you just heard was the sound of me not arguing

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was stupid happy when I saw the link on the website to "mp3" and crushed under the bootheel of misery when the page was empty but for a "[coming soon]" bait-and-switch. I WANT MY CR@16 F!nnX0r NOW!

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

They were one of the first shows I was taken to by friends when I lived for a summer in Mpls while still in school at [whiteass rural college]. There was an anniversary show for the (now tits-up) Foxfire Cafe with dozens of bands playing 20/30min sets all day. I'd heard Lifter Puller on sunny day reception of Radio K, all I remember was this torrent of language (I think "eyepatch guy" stuck out, as it always does). And then there's this Peter Sellers clone whipping himself with his forearms and nearly gnawing the mic. And the rest of them were clearly the coolest guys alive. TL4evah no j/k.

That said, I don't listen to any of it much cos their production was always so anemic. I mean, this band was a ROAR, and it's just not there on record.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Such an incredible band! Fiestas & Fiascos is an experience like none other in my collection. It's odd then that no one seems to ever describe their music, just talk about how much they love it or, y'know, blah blah archers of loaf blah blah nightlife... I'm really not any better, I guess. Nobody ever even mentions how seemlessly they involved sax solos into their songs. Incredible!!

Adam A. (Keiko), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

We're gonna need another 6 or 7 threads if we're gonna match the Cat Power madness.

I like how the release of Soft Rock acts like a Director's Cut of Fiestas & Fiascos. Also, F&F comes close to that ROAR misterhungry refers to (though I haven't seen the self-flaggelation up close & personal).

I never really thought of AoL in connection w/ LFTR PLLR, but that's why you folks make the big bucks. For what it's worth, I still can't really hear the Neil Diamond thing in Crooked Fingers, either.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I first heard Lifter Puller last year at Michaelangelo's suggestion, and I still haven't really gotten into it THAT hard, mainly cuz I see it as 2nd Gen Archers... Yeah, lyrically LP's much better, but I don't care about lyrix anyway...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I need to hear these guys. And if I like 'em, it'll definitely qualify as music I got into through ILM.

Crooked Fingers are okeydoke, if rather repetitive, and I'd probably take the first two Crooked Fingers albums over White Trash Heroes. It's a shame that live album was so turgid. Otherwise it would have made a nice sampler.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Um, I like Lifter Puller, too, as this would indicate:

http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/02/critic.php?criticid=132

I don't remember liking Archers of Loaf much way back when, but maybe I was wrong about them. First people Lifter Puller reminded me of were Girls Against Boys (who I now think they're way better than), then the Fall. Then Kogan and Xgau independently mentioned the first couple Springsteen albums. And other people said Pavement, which never made any sense to me, but then again I've never understood people who think Pavement sounded like the Fall, either. Anyway. My favorite surrogate Lifter Pullers right now are Holy Ghost, from Brooklyn, who have two albums out that everybody else has ignored.

chuck, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 01:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

My friend Jef, who used to DJ at the Lava Lounge, was so big a fan of Lifter Puller that he tattooed "LFTR" and "PLLR" on the mid-digits of his hands. He also named our DJ night "Nightclub Dwight" in honor of a song from one of the guys' solo projects. Jef flew to NYC to see their reunion show last year.

Now he DJs in SF and uses the same name. So those of you there, go there and rock on with a cock on.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

The one inescapable influence / reference point re: LP for me is Soul Coughing - the lyrical similarities (at least, between F&F & SC songs like "Screenwriter Blues" & "Collapse" - that noir-y, pulpy grittiness, which sounds tres cliche when I name it like that) is RIGHT THERE, but even the cut-&-pastyness of the music for both. God help ye if you want to see me talk about it in more detail, but for the sake of thorougness, here you go.

The blatant Pavement / Fall connection, to me, boils down to "Two States". Anything else is uncivilized.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 02:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Hold Steady album has been recorded and awaits mixing per my v. mysterious sources

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

you could also note the might-as-well-been-sampled "Hip Priest" drum beat on Pavement's "Our Singer". I always thought they sounded most like the Swell Maps in the early days, except rather American.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I heard it was only a six-song EP, J0hn, but maybe I'm mistaken

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

No six songs sounds right, but said source who is Craig sez they're really long songs so I got the impression it was an album

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, Craig is my source, too; asked him after the show last week at Pianos if they were recording. I'm going to be interviewing them Wednesday, which should be fun.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

so you get to see the Hold Steady? you dirty dog, I am stuck here out in Hold Steady-less Iowa and am addicted to the cheap rent

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

My friend Jef, who used to DJ at the Lava Lounge, was so big a fan of Lifter Puller that he tattooed "LFTR" and "PLLR" on the mid-digits of his hands.

Oh! I met that guy at the NYC show! Well, really it was more like "holy shit... your fingers... Uh, cool."

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 04:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Craig told me they did six songs, and that's hardly an album, but hey.

Somebody I know asked him what to get tattooed on his own set of knuckles and he said "DIET COKE".

mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 05:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

(my description of the show is linked upthread, J0hn)

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 07:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had a few mp3s of Craig in some side project of his. Basically him marble-mouthing lyrics over Aphex-Twin'y beats. I'm not sure if i liked it or not. I think it was called Sophomore Slump or something like that.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 09:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lifter Puller=one of the most startlingly awesome shows I've ever seen. As good as Melt-Banana. One of my early Pitchfork-is-SO-WRONG moments came when I read this review.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

(haha to the Holy Ghost, Chuck -- A couple friends and I were having lunch at Island Burger in Midtown a couple of years ago, and these two dudes right next to us were obviously eavesdropping on our music-related conversation. Suddenly the two dudes start pitching us about their band and how great they are and on and on and on. They gave me their demo, which sounded exactly like late-era (read: bad) Pavement. That band, of course, was the Holy Ghost. I've seen their name around since, but based on that personal encounter, I've decided to ignore them.)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, I'm surprised that no one else is jumping on the LP = AoL comparison. It sounds so obvious to me it's ridiculous. And I can also hear Asbury Park and the Wild, the Innocent... with the whole meandering, wordy narrative style butt-ressed by punchy boogie rock. But still, AoL seems the obvious jump-off point to me.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

LFTR PLLR lyrical fanatics (myself included) will note the delicious irony in the fact Pitchfork awarded F+F a *3.2* on their rating scale. (In my not-at-all-humble opinion, it's the finest album ever made.)

Oh -- hi. I'm Stephanie and I run the Hold Steady website (per Craig, of course). Not that it'll be any help to the faithful few among you in desperate need of a fix, but the ETA for a couple mp3s off the six-song recording is probably mid-April? Possibly sooner.

I digress; just wanted to kick in my two cents and add another bit of glowing appreciation for the glory that is/was LP.

stephanie m., Tuesday, 25 March 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I compared them to the Archers a lot early on, Y@nc3y, in pieces for the Chicago Reader and Seattle Weekly; just didn't want to repeat myself too much, and also because the comparison obscures what's good about LP--their rhythmic sense is friskier, their hooks less guitar-oriented, they have new wave keyboards and AoL don't. Pitchfork's F+F review is a laughingstock.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Great band, great guys. All of them very, very funny. Here's an old City Pages profile I did of them.

www.citypages.com/databank/20/988/article8166.asp

One of the few times that hanging out with musicians was actually as interesting as listening to their records. I like their recordings fine, but their live show really makes me wish that adjs like explosive, blistering, fierce weren't rockcrit cliches.

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

So the new Lifter Puller is not, in fact, the Hold Steady, but Ten Grand, a new Southern Records signing. I got their new album in the mail the other day, and it has that same upbeat tension that drove most Lifter Puller songs (plus one of their vocalists has that David Thomas-esque gauzy warble). I haven't listened closely enough to discern whether the lyrics are fable-ish, but I suspect that they're not. Still, a great record. Seek it out!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

but you haven't even heard the Hold Steady yet!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, yeah I know. Just saying that this Ten Grand record a) is good and b) bears more than a passing resemblance to LP (tho with a tinge of early 90s D.C. emo)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ten Grand are that old screamo band the Vida Blue. They are pretty good but they sound nothing like Lifter Puller and don't even deserve to fit into the same category. No fable-ish lyrics there either. Come on man.

mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have you heard the new record, mosurock? The similarity is pretty strong, and this is much more straight rock (with a hint of boogie) than screamo (which only comes through in the occassional backing vocal...).

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, I had to review it for Careless Talk. I still don't follow you.

mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Different ears, I guess. Maybe I hear it more cuz I'm not a huge LP fan?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
Holy mother of fuck. Just got back from LP reunion show #1 (two more to come) and it was flat out the best rock show I'll see all year. Here's why:

1. Opening band was the Monarques, led by Nathan Grumdahl, ex of Selby Tigers; strong, confident, well written songs, sort of...don't wanna say "arty" but something tells me Ned would love them--they have some kind of British thing going on that's hard for me to put my finger on at the moment. Sorta majestic w/o the preening feel that adjective usually conjures. Songs felt really composed--as in parts that felt distinct from each other but worked as a whole.
2. Ladies and gentlemen, the Mountain Goats. J0hn got up and played relatively few obvious crowdpleasers and a lot of semi-obscurities (including his cover of Steely Dan's "F.M.," which Nate Patrin recognized). He's amazing live, which a lot of you know already, and was super pumped to be opening for LP, and said so frequently.
3. On the last two songs ("See America Right" and "The Best Death Metal Band in Denton") J0hn was accompanied by the multitalented Tad Kubler--LP bassist, lead guitarist for the Hold Steady--on drums.
4. Got to meet J0hn for the first time. He even said it was OK that I called him a terrorist on national television. What a nice guy.
5. Not a second after being announced by a couple of college radio DJs or club employees (not sure which), LP fucking tore into "To Live and Die in LBI," Craig and Tad and Steve jumping like fucking crazy and the crowd going nuts. They KILLED from top to bottom, the crowd screamed the lyrics back at them; Craig in particular was extremely energized, even more so than usual (having seen the Hold Steady several times now it's not like he's exactly been lazing off in the stage movement department), and um holy fuck
6. he had a big mosh pit going, which included at the periphery me, Nate P and J0hn D. So I got to fucking slam dance w/a Mountain Goat. ILx heaven, kids.
7. The new venue that the Triple Rock Social Club opened up (the LP shows are its inaugural events) is beautiful--nice stage, terrific PA, excellent sightlines, comfortable, attractive wood and metal walls, holds about 600. I dare say it's the nicest rock venue in Minneapolis--a town that could use a really nice rock venue.

I'm beat. More tomorrow. And again, WOW.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 7 June 2003 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I can't believe I'm just listening to Lifter Puller now, a band that totally missed my radar when they were playing. I have to admit this is almost entirely because of reading Matos & J0hn write about them. It's the reverence with which these and other people say the name "Lifter Puller." I haven't been this excited or happy about a band in a long time, and I just regret not seeing them live. The vocals hung me up for a long time (I remember downloading the two songs at epitonic.com a few years ago and and being half-annoyed) but now I can't imagine what was bothering me. I'm chalking it up to the obvious fact that this is the time & place in which Lifter Puller is to change my life. Thanks, people.

scott m (mcd), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

I only listened to the first few songs off the 2CD thing and I'm assuming these guys get better or something as the comp goes on. Found it kinda repetitive and the talker did little for me. Kinda reminded me of MX-80 in that the boring vocalist made it hard for me to really get into the neat-sounding music. But again, I only listened to a couple tracks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

It seeps in, man. I have dreams about it. It's weird. F & F is their best.

Oh and a couple other things: The Hold Steady are at Pianos in nyc on July 10th.

IMHO the Archers comparison is unfair as Archers were a fairly standard, if decent, '90s indie rock band, whereas LP has more substance, more springsteen, great lyrics, more Dinosaur Jr. references, are more danceable, and have a conviction and charisma that Archers lacked. And I love Vee Vee, I really do.

scott m (mcd), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

out of curiousity do ALL Lifter Puller songs basically have the dude talking over the verse and then singing slightly over the chorus? Is it basically "Ice Of Boston" to death or is it more diverse than the opening of the 2CD would imply?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, D-plan is good comparison, actually. And yes, it is pretty same-y. But the one-trick rewards on many listens.

scott m (mcd), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

as someone who prefers Change to "Ice Of Boston" anyday: yuck.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Yes! Change is far better, and Lifter Puller isn't Ice of Boston, sorry if I made it sound that way!

And then there's the Joe Strummer quote, "It's Lifter Puller's world, we just live in it."

scott m (mcd), Saturday, 28 June 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

haha Anthony in "maturity" shockah

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 28 June 2003 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

do they have any songs that aren't about romanticized 'rock lifestyle' crap?

Josh (Josh), Saturday, 28 June 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

whatever lftr pllr record matos played me during emp was absolutely great, but strangely i havent felt the urge to actually get one of the records. i have given up completely on the hold steady.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't feel comfortable making that assessment yet, but I do prefer LP overall.

the LP record I played Jess was Fiestas + Fiascos, preceded by "To Live and Die in LBI" and "Nassau Coliseum"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i think what i liked better about lifter puller was the more straight-up indie rock sound (one of the basslines reminded me of mogwai!) which seemed to suit finn's delivery better. whereas with the classic rock stuff i am back to "why do you hate rhythm?" etc etc.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I might might might just prefer Half Dead & Dynamite to Fiestas + Fiascos, & "Secret Santa Cruz" is still my favourite Finn track. has anyone here heard "Bitchy Christmas"? is it FESTIVE?

etc, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i think what i liked better about lifter puller was the more straight-up indie rock sound (one of the basslines reminded me of mogwai!) which seemed to suit finn's delivery better

that's kinda it for me too! plus big influence of archers of loaf, who i love a lot too.

that said, i like finn's jive ass B.S. enough to dig hold steady. and i like thin lizzy.

etc OTM, yeah I like Half Dead the best....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't hear any rhythm-hate in THS at all!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

THS's tempos are slower though - more arena, which is obviously the idea - I dig the Hold Steady plenty, but Lifter Puller had that "oh shit I have had a vision" energy

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Last summer on LBI I was at a pub with my wife and kid eating lunch and wearing my Lifter Puller t-shirt. When our waiter saw it, he just about freaked saying he was best friends with Steve's (LP's guitar player) brother. He asked me if I was from Minneapolis and how did I know about Lifter Puller (I am from New Jersey). I told him they were awesome. He said Steve worked at M&M Clam Bar down the street growing up. And he also said that the Hold Steady would rule the world. Then he said Steve made a mistake in not going to NYC with C Finn. The End.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say "rhythm-hate" but I don't really get why they're referencing classic-rock in tales of skaterpunks. It's not NOW 'arena', but THEN 'arena.' The GVSB post-punk sound definitely gels better with his voice and themes, I love when its all rushing by so fast I miss lines and the a groove kicks in almost outta nowhere.

Plus I am SO not a Catholic.

'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Cattle and the Creeping Things" > schaffel

disco violence (disco violence), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I have never been to Minneapolis nor have I been to Catholicism (or any religion, actually), but I'm pretty obsessive about SS right now. To the point of thinking of getting that LFTR PLLR double that Xgau A minussed last year. I only pay attention to lyrics when they make me, and this one does. I want to work out more about the stories (or is it just one story) that threads in and out. It'll take me a while, especially since I can never hear anything when the bus roars through the tunnel on my way to work. But I like the Bruce thing the band has going as well.

thousands of tiny luminous spheres (plebian), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

lotsa Catholic imagery on the LP records, too, just not as overt. they also referenced indie punk in tales of ravers--your point?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"Why is this comedy about war?"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not a hobbit but I still liked Lord of the Rings.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

classic rock = acknowledging their own seperateness from the cast of characters, viz. darnielle on 'certain songs': "there is a certain poignancy in trying to work out who is addressing who" (okay not exactly a quote but eh.)

tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Just a data point in case anyone was getting the impression that the pleasure in this music was necessarily related to local knowledge of one sort or another.

thousands of tiny luminous spheres (plebian), Thursday, 8 December 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I think what I love most about the Hold Steady, that I don't necessarily love about Lifter Puller, is that his storytelling has become, for lack of a better word, more "believable." That is -- the neo-Chandler noir bits of the LFTR PLLR mythology weren't all that believable to me, though they were enjoyable. The Separation Sunday story, though, feels completely "real" and it doesn't feel like Finn's putting on an act or exaggerating for effect. Real life is epic enough.

Then again, I'm a Minneapolitan who moved to New York, so etc. etc...

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The Osseo reference in Hoodrat Friend is awesome though! I'm officially offering Finn $25 cash if he can work in Coon Rapids or Norwood Young America into the next one!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

someone should make a Craig Finn Map of the Twin Cities

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm a big fan of the sneaky "Stillwater" ref. in Hoodrat Friend, but then again I'm just a sucker for every geographical reference he makes (the railroad bridge! I used to drink beneath it too!)

If I see him around, I'll ask him why he hasn't yet taken advantage of the many possibilities "Eden Prairie" provides.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Penetration Park = Loring Park, right?

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

because Eden Prairie sucks! (haha, I have no idea whether Eden Prairie sucks)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I, too, will put down $25 for a mention of H4stings or Triangle Park.

xpost: pretty sure it sucks.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

haha craig finn map:

(Uptown? always assumed) Rainbow Foods
Nankin (RIP)
Penetration (Loring) Park
the corner of 15th and Franklin
Payne Avenue
Yukon Club

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of my favorites:

Railroad Bridge - the one between 26th and 27th streets? teen ne'er-do-wells park their bikes in the trees and drink on the shore or on the bridge.

Edina -- in "Hornets! Hornets!"
we were livin up at nicollet and 66th. with 3 skaters and some hoodrat chick. drove the wrong way down 169. almost died up by edina high.

The City Center ref in Hoodrat Friend always cracks me up.

And, of course, Lake Street is for Lovers.

There ought to be one of those google map hacks with little flags on all the places.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh! And (the carpet at) the Thunderbird!

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Last summer, I visited Mpls and stayed at the hotel above City Center, and was craving Taco Bell, so I went in and everything was shuttered. All I could think about was that line in "Hoodrat."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

You were so close to Block E! You could've gone to the Hard Rock Cafe!

(shudder)

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I was listening to the Hold Steady when that Thunderbird lyric came on and my mom was like, "The Thunderbird!"

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

(...that post almost made sense. Almost.)

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I think I have all this stuff (the odds and ends collection is all on Soft Rock, it looks like). But still - nice. Also I guess Soft Rock is outta print or something.

http://pitchfork.com/news/37089-pre-hold-steady-band-lifter-puller-remembered-with-reissue-series-book/

dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

digital reissue = laaaaaame

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

tru. I'd buy Half Dead and Dynamite on vinyl. that one's my favorite.

dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

btw it's kinda lame to me that because tad is in hold steady that the original (and best) lifter puller bassist, tommy roach is sort of written out of the band's history....he was an amazing bassist and quit i think to pursue grad school (i had him as a TA at the u of m once)..but anyway he plays in half dead, which remains their best work, and from what i have been told was very instrumental in writing lifter puller songs when he was in the band and sort of helping to define their sound.

On this date in 2008, Soulja Boy said something (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

don't call her lazy cause she's crazy about the daytime tv
channel 3, look at me, i'm a real whale watcher

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

I think it's Wheel watcher

https://i.imgur.com/IDw9f9s.jpg

how's life, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

lmao that makes way more sense, i'm submitting the correction to every lyrics website

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

every lyric in "touch my stuff" is gold

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

even though i think fiestas is their masterpiece my fav lifter puller song is "sangre de stephanie," it kinda feels like every thematic touchstone finn explored in both lifter puller and the hold steady ("she crossed herself and it turned me on") appears there

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

I feel really lucky have seen them dozens of times in small clubs in Minneapolis in those days.

This just surfaced, sound is dodgy but this is def the era, Lifter Puller playing the Dillinger Four Midwestern Songs of the America's release show on a boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFByA1t6KG4&feature=youtu.be

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

oh shit!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

I want Night Club Dwight dead in his grave
I want the Nice, Nice up in blazes

cajunsunday, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

I have so much of that album stuck in my head.

cajunsunday, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

it ain't just a money thing it's a question of community, the liberty the ecstasty the love the drugs the unity and the busts they looked just like the hey kool aid commercial, they're breaking down the walls and they're tipping over tables and it tastes great

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

for a little bit Paddy (St. Paddy) of Dillinger Four is standing in front of the camera.

the whole Lifter Puller/D4/Atmosphere mutual appreciation society was really cool back then

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

legendary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQulI5RcfOs

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

another great find! 00 full set from the weisman art museum at the university of mn campus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJxAyApDYrs&feature=youtu.be

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

Ooh, nice finds. The Jenny Jones one lead me to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWgl5XeBws

which in turn led me to this Aussie band's cover of same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPEzGabTpK4

which reminded me of how I came across Lifter-Puller via J0hn D's piece on "Mission Viejo":

http://lastplanetojakarta.com/articles/lift.html

etc, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link


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