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i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum/

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

its reached easier at http://www.criterionforum.org fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from
www.pimpadelicwonderland.com

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (nineteen years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Slacker!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't I see Casque d'Or on the Criterion rack the other day>

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder what will be spine #300.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Funds not sufficiently shored up for this one. Passing and holding onto the coupon for spring.

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:16 (five months ago) link

I'm in the same boat, lots of stuff I want, but I have to remind myself that this will come up again

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:22 (five months ago) link

I'm also edging pretty close to a $50 certificate, so I feel good about sitting tight and waiting

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:39 (five months ago) link

Poor little flow-ah.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:43 (five months ago) link

Going to let my coupons pile up for a couple of years for a direct CC purchase, and get a few things in the Nov B&N sale in the meantime.

WmC, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:54 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

the sale is on

omar little, Monday, 6 November 2023 17:37 (five months ago) link

I'm limiting myself to one per paycheck, so two total: The Trial and likely the Tod Browning set

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Monday, 6 November 2023 18:02 (five months ago) link

Shit, might have to pick up the Ranown Cycle 4k box on the way home today.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:22 (five months ago) link

FEBRUARY: The Roaring Twenties*; Nothing But A Man; The Heroic Trio + The Executioners set*; Eric Rohmer's Tales of The Four Seasons; and a 4K upgrade of McCabe & Mrs. Miller.

*4K available

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:43 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Janus Contemporaries February: Afire

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:08 (four months ago) link

Petzold's one of those filmmakers I should get into; didn't see Afire but really liked Transit from 2018

Nhex, Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:20 (four months ago) link

I am five minutes into Mark Lewis's "The Natural History of the Chicken." This is not and yet exactly what I should have been expecting.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 2 December 2023 04:09 (four months ago) link

SMARCH: To Die For*; Saint Omer; The Runner; All The Beauty And The Bloodshed; and an upgrade of All That Money Can Buy (a.k.a. The Devil and Daniel Webster).

*4K available

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 December 2023 17:12 (four months ago) link

Really awesome month there. A little surprising that they're not using the Janus Contemporaries for either of those new movies.

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 17:17 (four months ago) link

Are they eeeeeever going to upgrade Trouble in Paradise? (The answer is yes, no more than a couple of weeks after I finally relent and buy the DVD.)

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 December 2023 17:19 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

(Yester)Day of Missing Jason Polan & His New Year's Drawings

Back on topic: Perhaps Trouble In Paradise will be a Blu/4K upgrade? It's been available on Blu overseas for years.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:27 (three months ago) link

Janus Contemporaries March: Lynch/Oz

this has been on the criterion channel, I tried watching it and got about 5 minutes in before turning it off, it was way too silly

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 5 January 2024 14:24 (three months ago) link

same

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 7 January 2024 00:11 (three months ago) link

APRIL: Dogfight; I Am Cuba*; Werckmeister Harmonies*; and 4Ks of Picnic At Hanging Rock & La haine

*4K available

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link

I would loooove to see Soy Cuba (possibly bundled with the documentary they did about it)

― Stevie D, Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:24 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Your wish is their command (sixteen years later)

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link

For I Am Cuba and Werckmeister alone, a massive month

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:09 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

LOL, oops

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link

I love the later Weeds so much. But I already have the BFI BD.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 15 February 2024 19:12 (two months ago) link

Girlfight was a nice surprise, i thought.
No 4K on Anatomy is a little surprising but i hear that's because it wasn't sourced in 4K? Or maybe they just didn't think it was worth the expense (which seems doubtful considering the recent clearly uncommercial stuff they've given 4K)

Nhex, Friday, 16 February 2024 00:25 (two months ago) link

Planning a double dip maybe. It's such a great film.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 16 February 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link

Criterion Channel subscribers just got their $10 GC codes emailed to them, which means that sometime next week is probably going to be flash sale day

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 February 2024 17:06 (one month ago) link

did I ever say that I got the towel? It's a nice towel!

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:10 (one month ago) link

Janus Contemporaries May: All That Breathes

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 February 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

JUNE: The Underground Railroad; Victims of Sin; Bound*; Querelle; and 4Ks of Blue Velvet & Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas.

*4K available

Dear god, this is the best cover they've had in awhile.

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 15 March 2024 17:19 (one month ago) link

Victims of Sin looks pretty awesome

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 15 March 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link

An interesting angle for Criterion--usually this sort of title comes from Flicker Alley and the Film Noir Foundation. But I look forward to seeing this.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:19 (one month ago) link

My brother has noted that Fassbinder bookended his career with "Be gay, do crimes" films: One subtext ("Love is Colder Than Death) and one all text (Querelle).

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 March 2024 19:33 (one month ago) link

TIL Film Twitter hates the Querelle cover. Sounds about right

Rich E. (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:32 (one month ago) link

Think that's partly due to the dude who made it being an AI guy (though he says AI was not involved in this cover).

Will say that Criterion has fallen off hard in terms of bonus features over the years.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 March 2024 10:09 (four weeks ago) link

Yes, it's gotten quite bad on that front

Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 March 2024 12:31 (four weeks ago) link

Honestly, when I saw that cover, the first thing I did was to check the hands as it looked very "AI" to me

silverfish, Monday, 18 March 2024 14:36 (four weeks ago) link

In a weird coincidence I saw Victims of Sin on the big screen in the past weeks and although I liked it just fine there are a couple of real failings imo. The song and dance (dance in particular) are unsurprisingly (too) heavily featured and there are some huge plot jumps particularly toward the end that are very jarring. But it's great high melodrama when it hits the spot and very funny in places.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 09:16 (four weeks ago) link

The song and dance (dance in particular) are unsurprisingly (too) heavily featured

This criticism does not compute

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:18 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe it's just me but it's really unbalanced and the dance scenes are overly long for what they are, seemingly just to accommodate Ninon Sevilla's other fame. One of Rita Montaner's songs is particularly gratuitous as well, not plot related in the slightest.

Mind you, Santiago having a mariachi band follow him around just to accompany him as he picks up prostitutes is certainly an idea we can all relate to.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:53 (four weeks ago) link

Janus Contemporaries June: Orlando, My Political Biography

two weeks pass...

JULY: Risky Business*; Farewell My Concubine*; Black God, White Devil; Perfect Days*; Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid*; and a 4K of Le samourai.

*4K available

Bummed the title I'm most interested in picking up there isn't in 4K

Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 April 2024 17:32 (yesterday) link

Can't imagine 4K really doing that much for a film as rough looking (complimentary) as BGWD

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 April 2024 18:04 (yesterday) link

I saw a print of BGWD like 15+ years ago, and honestly a VHS transfer would be an improvement over what I saw then.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:53 (fifteen hours ago) link

Risky Business 4k my dreams have come true!

or something, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 08:58 (eight hours ago) link


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