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that was a funny question. kudos to your friend.

Peter Watts (peterw), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah that was odd. After the first question tho it was ludicrous him even being there - like Richard Dreyfuss knows or cares about the election propects of the Liberal Democrats?!!??! It was obvious he thought the Liberal Democrats were some new party who'd just arrived on the scene when, in fact, they've been failing to impress the British electorate for the best part of a century (xpost AGAIN!)

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:51 (nineteen years ago) link

the Ethiopian immigrant kept making the point about 'not referring to asylum seekers as a quota', but when you're dealing with large numbers of people in such a way it seemed almost pedantic to keep referring to that. the other point (from Matt's friend possibly?) about it being perhaps wrong to take trained doctors, scientists, teachers from underdeveloped countries was interesting tho - but it sort of ends up as a pro on the 'limit the number of people coming in' argument no?

what do people think of Sean O'Callaghan?

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't make head or tail of what dreyfuss was saying about the lib dems. there was lots of nervous laughter when he was done.

Peter Watts (peterw), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link

That Ethiopian guy was camp as Christmas. Who's Sean O'Callaghan?

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve you have met the friend in question - at Glastonbury I think. Some ILX people definitely did and he was hanging round our camp a bit early Saturday evening.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link

O'Callaghan did the 'can terrorists ever be negotiated with in this way?' report on This Week

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link

You should have shooed him off.

I forgot to watch QT and just switched on when someone was talking about immigration. He had been here since he was 11 or something, was that him?

Bizarrely, I also forgot to watch TW and just switched on to see some Irish fella talking about terrorism, I think. Who was he?

Both programmes are excellent, I think. I must remember to watch them.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 September 2004 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link

some Irish fella talking about terrorism

I'm guessing this is Sean O'Callaghan .... call it a wild stab in the dark

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't see any report, he was sitting in the studio. Who is he, apart from his name?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 September 2004 09:09 (nineteen years ago) link

DC's pal was fine.

Dreyfuss was frankly poor. He borrowed authority from his weathered stardom, but his actual remarks did not get anyone very far.

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I couldn't understand Richard Dreyfus at all. Does he really think Iraq is a primitive society that can't comprehend democracy? Why did he keep saying 'tribal'?
I usually don't like Simon Hughes but I quite did last night. It was strange and out of charatcer when he started asking everyone to pray. I don't think David Dimbleby knew what to do.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

And why did no-one tell Richard Dreyfus he was being a fool? The other panellists all just seemed to be nodding at him in awe.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

The Simon Hughes Travelling Salvation Show had totally the opposite effect on me - usually i don't mind him but this has opened my eyes to the possibility that he may, in fact, be a looney

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dreyfus was certainly a bit meandering, if not completely lost, at times but I think trying to discuss Iraqi society and its reaction to the Western idea of democracy without using the word tribal is to ignore the reality.
xpost

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

it would've been good if he'd started making models of Devil's Mountain using whatever stationery was on the desk.

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I would not have been surprised to see Simon Hughes join him in this endeavour

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I usually don't like him because he's so bland and line-toeing. But he was sort of funny and a bit looney this time, and it was good. He reminded me of my old history teacher.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Kennedy also looked on form in the footage of the Conference itself. I'm pretty keen on just trying to close the gap between the parties now, irrespective of individual party member behaviour and positions.

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

On form? You mean he was sober for a change?

Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I was worried about the Irish bloke. I thought he was going to keel over and die before finishing his question, he seemed so angry.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I knew there'd be a thread discussing Dreyfuss on QT - car crash TV at its best!

on the other hand, if you care about serious and informed debate on current affairs on the BBC, the pinefox OTM upthread

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

precisely, Dadrockismus

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Zebedee. I cannae even remember what I said!

JtN likes Hughes, and his taxi-cab.

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Zebedee is very generous. My remarks were accurate, but far from scintillating.

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Dreyfus was quite dreadful. Hopefully as Tim Robbins has a play on in London they'll drag him on sometime soon. If only to show that not all the 'Hollywood liberal intelligentsia' brains haven't totally been wrecked by too much nose candy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh! This thread has recieved a bit more interest now. Yeah, I thought Dreyfuss was awful, and I think that his claims that 'arabs have such different values democracy is impossible' probably stunned the other guests into polite nodding.

I always have a special affection for the Lib Dems, generally - they seem like nice people who handle politics the way I would like it to be handled. Now, if only they were socialists...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

who else thought the 'i'm not racist' woman from the sunday express was about to say 'some of my best friends are black'?

Peter Watts (peterw), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I did not like her.

But her very final comment, about foxhunting, was correct.

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I thought she was about to say that Peter. Her arguments about most people being against illegal immigration, then saying her paper has no problem with asylum seekers sidesteps the fact that most of her readers are against 'genuine' immigration too. And the fact that she says she doesn't want illegal immigrants in the country because, apparently, they will be exploited is disingenuous at best. At worst it is an outright lie and an attempt to clothe racism in the language of compassion.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I AM SICKENED BY THE ANTI-DREYFUSSIAN RHETORIC!!!

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 24 September 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Both these programmes were excellent last night, particulalry THIS WEEK which was so good I stayed up for the election result, which was quite strange, mucho hectoring and bad vibes.

Andrew Neil wondered where Tony Blair got his three and a half million pounds form, but hasn't Andrew Neil got three and a half million pounds as well?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

this is the only thing i regret about going out last night

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I was transfixed by the huge fly crawling around Geoff Hoon's head while he mentally transformed what everyone said into what he wanted to hear.

Apparently saying "I can apologise" is the same as apologising.

Kwame Kwei-Armah pissed me off with his "There are billions of people starving and that is more important than fox hunting" response. I'm sorry mate but you're there to answer the questions asked and debate the issues raised so get off the moral high ground or fuck off to the World Hunger Debate.
By his standards the entire concept of political discussion is a waste of time until everyone gets a bite to eat.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i doubt it's billions either

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Geoff Hoon actually managed the impossible - he made Ruth Lea seem almost human

Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the BBC are giving a lot of attention to Ms Hewitt's 'apology' last night - frankly, is this really that important? people seem to get so obsessed about an apology they lose track of what it is that actually requires one. i'm not interested in Blair or anyone else having to say sorry because it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the mess they've created. still it was good to see how much opposition persists and the anger and frustration of people spilling out (but not violently of course).

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I totally agree, what was galling was the fact that that Margaret Thatcher Wannabe Bitch would rather risk getting her arse royally kicked from the administration (which will undoubtably happen) for apologising on Blair's behalf rather than admit she/they were fucking wrong for not apologising when doing so would have still been pertinent.

mzui, Friday, 8 October 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

As I always say inside my head when 'please accept our apologies for this delay' comes over the railway tannoy, saying you're sorry means you're going to try not to do it again.

Makes Blair look a twit, either way.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Blair's own words - about how this report justified to an *even greater extent* the invasion - make him ever more a laughing stock.

As someone said on 'this week', it'd be a ludicrous situation where aggressive 'intent' and not action can be a cause for war. Why hasn't Blair been pilloried and laughed out of the country for making such a statement?

Voices of sanity on that QT Panel: Matthew Parris and Jody Dunn. And yes, Patricia Hewitt was appallingly predictable in parroting the Blair line.

Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently the edition of Question Time before the US election (28th? I dunno) is going to be from Florida. Michael Moore is going to be a guest. Hmmm. I can't seem to find out who else will be on though.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Special editions of Question Time are one of my favourite things.

Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

RIchard Littlejohn (!), Sidney Blummenthal and that tosser who wrote lots of Bush's speechers, David Frum, will be on QT in Florida next week.

Anybody see last night's? I actually whooped when Michael Hessaltine told that Daily Mail woman were to get off about the EU. Dimmers was also particularly mischievous.

Pete W (peterw), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

ah Melanie Phillips - i didn't expect her to sound like that actually, stern schoolteacher style. i couldn't pay much attention to it last night. i shall look forward to lampooning Littlejohn next week from the comfort of my own settee tho.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is Caroline Flint and where have they been hiding her? For once, one of the Blair Babes was a bit of a Babe, thick as pigshit tho

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Overall, Clement Freud won

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

You could play a Richard Littlejohn drinking game.

Drink when he says:
"You couldn't make it up!"
"Cottaging!"
"Hell in a handcart!"
"The PC brigade!
"Guardianista!"

Drain your glass when he says:
"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"

robster (robster), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I havn't seen/heard Michael Moore do intelligent debate before - the nearest I've seen have all been straw-man bluster. SHould be interesting. Mind you, if that Littlejohn feller is on there, we won't get much intelligent debate that night anyway.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Tatchell just talked in slogans last night (although Dimbleby's treatment of him was predictably cursory).

Why haven't the Left got a lucid, authoritative spokesperson in this country (Tony Benn is too old now)? One is sorely needed.

Venga, Friday, 22 October 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

They don't get invited on Question Time - there's your answer.

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Has the BBC ever given any kind of reason for having a tiny, hard-right corporate front outfit with a smaller readership than Model Aircraft Today on speed dial?

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

They're all middle class right wing cunts?

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

It's good television, innit.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:33 (five years ago) link

As it seems aside from the BBC and Talk Radio producers that have them on speed dial, no-one much else cares about them, who funds these wasters? There seems to be more transparency at the Taxpayers Alliance ffs!

calzino, Friday, 22 June 2018 11:34 (five years ago) link

I wonder what proportion is that and what proportion is Good Liberals imagining the public is vastly more right wing than them and giving the audience what they think they want.

Even so, when you have actual Tory politicians and Brexit campaigners on the show, idk what the imagined audience for contrarian fash/ libertarians would be.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link

(xp) You're wrong there, they're on Sky all the time too, Brendan O'Neill virtually lives at Sky News studios.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

I never watch it tbh, thank fuck!

calzino, Friday, 22 June 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

(xxp) Pretty sure all they're interested in is entertainment.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Newsnight continuing to do the noble and important work of sorting out the good Free Tommy people from the bad elements:

"This isn't us, this isn't the Free Tommy movement... I'd say this is far-right" - this woman explains that the majority of Tommy Robinson supporters were protesting peacefully #newsnight pic.twitter.com/SnLwgIJb4v

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) July 18, 2018

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

Also good to give Gerald Batten plenty of time to explain why Robinson isn’t similar to Nelson Mandela, he is actually better, under robust questioning like ‘haven’t you misjudged this?’.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

the BBC want socialism for their corporation, neo-fascism for their license payers. At least they are consistent on this line!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Our fourth and final audience question is about the Labour party. #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/WDe4PsieG6

— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) September 26, 2019

Our third audience question is about a future withdrawal agreement. #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/iFBxqKawUl

— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) September 26, 2019

Here's our second question from the audience tonight. #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/kUucyT8vxX

— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) September 26, 2019

Seem like good questions imo.

ShariVari, Friday, 27 September 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link

'we all break laws on a day to day basis'

send the rozzers round to this audience member's house asap

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link

The guy who asked the question was a policeman!

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Friday, 27 September 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link

... so, yes, a reactionary right wing twat, PC Gammon in fact.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Friday, 27 September 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

PC Bacon

coup de twat (suzy), Friday, 27 September 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

PC Gonemad

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

wtf

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Friday, 27 September 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

I didn't see the show last night, but surely the format means these questions get comprehensively twatted by most of the panel?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 September 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

Damn I should start watching Question Time again pic.twitter.com/R58KJAKJ2J

— Clee (@jmsclee) September 27, 2019

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Friday, 27 September 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

"It was a one-off"

This is genuinely the most revolting thing I’ve seen on the bbc for a while. Alibhai Brown raises Stanley Johnson assaulting his wife (he broke her nose) & Fiona Bruce cites his friends saying it was a ‘one off’.

A feudal media elite in a modern country. pic.twitter.com/AROO9eGrB1

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) March 10, 2023

the pinefox, Friday, 10 March 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link


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