― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
busted. what I should have said was "overused". "horrible" was overkill, based on stuff I really hate from that era that used the sound, not this excellent album. I do think the songs suffer a bit from the prevalence of said effect. also, as discussed in some other thread I can't recall now, it dates the album to a certain time period, which I have no problem with but does place it in a certain category of memory that makes it difficult for me to truly hear it anew on repeated listens. hope that makes sense.
I always really liked the 12" mix of "Fish Below The Ice" as well. came with that cool embossed cover.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link
how crap is the UK cover in comparison to the USA cover ?
back to shriekback - the image above is garish and rather unpleasant .. i much prefer the uk cover :
http://www.shriekback.com/do_oilandgold_files/oilandgold_euro.jpg
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link
(wow "Fish Below The Ice"!)
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link
"Faded Flowers" is just such a killer song, this album is unbelievable, we are all old
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link
tape version
A1 NemesisA2 Only Thing That ShinesA3 Health And Knowledge And Wealth And PowerA4 HammerheadsA5 CoelocanthB1 MalariaB2 Everything That Rises Must ConvergeB3 Fish Below The IceB4 This Big HushB5 Faded Flowers
It was a John Peel session in 1985 that introduced Shriekback to me as a 15 year old.
RTE 2 DJ Dave Fanning loved this album at the time
i knew in 1985 that this was a landmark album, it has a unique charm and character that still remains 21 years later
alexinnyc:
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2006/01/please_stand_by.html"Oil & Gold by Shriekback is an undervalued masterpiece that no music collection should be without."
many ilxor folks born in the early 1970s or late 60s love this album
Poetry in motion: Faded Flowers
This is the sound of poisonsthe sickness no one knowsNo one is crying for us this timeOur shapes are blurring under miracles of snowWeave a circle round him three timesYou have to plan your moves at these timesOur hearts are breakingOne more song to go
ChorusThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingThese hands I kissTragic as anythingThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingAll splash and hissBeyond my measuring
Only the anacrucisthe main event remainsShameful and naked, out there in thegreat cold outdoorsWe have to learn these things againBathe in this incandescent glowthe leap to something I don't knowThere is no doubt upon us whenthe greasy men come back again
ChorusThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingThese hands I kissTragic as anythingThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingAll splash and hissBeyond my measuringThese faded flowersPrecious as memoryA veil of cloudCorrect as energyWe had some good machinesBut they don't work no moreI loved you onceDon't love you anymore
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link
In high school, my history class was looking for short instrumentals to use as credits music for a film project we were doing. I made my group use "Coelocanth".
(Martian, I know you're a human database but are you sure you don't have the A and B sides of that tape confused?)
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link
this is one of my favorite lyrics of the whole damn decade
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link
agreed. a girlfriend of mine once made me a beautiful post-breakup card with those words on it.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm using a friend's cassette-only car while house-sitting and found Oil & Gold for $1.99 at a record store. It sounds better than my 20+-year-old CD version. What a great fucking record. The background singing is strange, and I love all the anthropologist-gone-native lyrics (see also P. Gabriel's "The Rhythm of the Heat" and most of Remain in Light).
Anyway, this is fantastic. This is what other people must hear when they listen to Radiohead but that I never reached with them.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, wait, I guess this thread is more up to date.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
we had some good machinesbut they don't work no moreI loved you oncedon't love you any more
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
and you knowthis is nothing specialjust one slitand we could lose ourselves forever
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
my feelings for this record are, like, blood-deep. being nineteen and desperate and alive and futureless on a dance floor in Portland dancing to "Nemesis" was a huge early glimpse of the possibilities of music for me, the depth of community possible on the dance floor, the intensity of the bond among people responding to the same beat, the same words. finding out about "Malaria" was just icing on the cake. I always forget this album when people ask me for my all-time list, but I shouldn't, because it made a huge impact on me.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Shriekback is one of my most favorite bands, they really hit something primal inside. Their funk-post-punk fusion still works for me, especially on the first few albums but everything they've done has something to offer. "Oil & Gold" was my introduction and one of my main summer 1985 jams. And it's getting a deluxe reissue any day now. Here's the contents of the bonus disc:
CD 2: Bonus Disc1. “Suck” - Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)2. “Mothloop” – Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)3. “Feelers” - Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)4. “Nemesis” - Extended5. “Nemesis” - Arch Deviant Mix6. “Fish Below the Ice” – Single Edit7. “All Lined Up” - B-Side “Fish Below the Ice”8. “My Spine (Is The Bassline)” - B-Side “Fish Below the Ice”9. “Fish Below the Ice” - The Plankton Enriched Mix10. “Fish Below the Ice” – Dance Mix
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
Those are decent bonus tracks but the real thing that will have me forking out the dough is the prospect of hearing this thing remastered. I had no idea it was finally coming out! Link, Gerald?
Like aero and Gerald and Dan, Shriekback struck a deep chord with me when their shit was coming out. That blend of esoterica and body music and eels. I tried so hard to imitate them on my Tascam in 1986, thinking I was clever...
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
I'm living in a neon house
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
It came out today in the UK, apparently. Using the original UK cover too:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/08/08/shriekback-oil-and-gold-reissue-remaster-tracklist/
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
yall can add me to the shreikback army.
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
do i abuse mod powers to spell that right, prob not
We know what you mean, private.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
I've never read a single interview with these guys, but I'm curious what inspired this way of writing lyrics. Again, it's kinda like Remain in Light and Peter Gabriel, but so dense and so much its own thing, so primal and contemporary at once.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
otm! there was nobody really quite in this poetry-meets-the-dance-floor groove - so immediately apprehendable but so dense & rich. "this is the splendor of our achievement/caught in the airstrike/with a poison kiss" - there's talking heads in there ok but "this is the splendor of our achievement" is up on its own level
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
"call in the airstrike"
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
love this record so much
― sleeve, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
as soon as i saw that oil and gold was getting reissued, i knew it was going to be one of the cherry red labels !
still, i aint complaining
will be interesting to hear this reissue against the semi-legit remastered edition that barry released via the bands website years back ..
― mark e, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
Why is it bad that it's Cherry Red? Do their reissues tend toward the sonically lackluster?
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Don't know how much of the live stuff and alt mixes from that bonus disc might be from "The Dancing Years," but that's a Shriekback album I own and NEVER play.
― Hey T-Paw, mow my lawn! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
The Hatfield live stuff is good, they released a whole disc of it through their website which I have. Dates from around Jam Science IIRC.
"Fish Below The Ice" B sides also important and i don't think those were on Dancing Years (which I, too, practically never played).
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
Why is it bad that it's Cherry Red?
not bad at all. just seems that all the 80s reissue stuff (and 60s, 70s etc) that i want is on one of the many cherry red sub-labels .. they are clearly on a roll and getting access to stuff that the original labels just cant be arsed with.
― mark e, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
Please let them do Jam Science...
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. i agree. thats one album that hits all the right spots.prefer that over oil & gold, depending on my mood (and hour of the day), its my fave shriekback album.
― mark e, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
You gotta watch out with Cherry Red - they've been known to press poor vinyl transfers and even fade tracks early in order to make more fit.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
It certainly features some of the best heavily-processed lead guitar sounds ever and amazing songwriting.
But it contains 'Suck' which gives an advantage to Oil & Gold.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
Can I just -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMM61Y5CEU
You have no idea how much I love this song and video. Both rule so damn hard.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
I think those of us on this thread may have some idea
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
:)
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
You've heard the whole album, right? "Fish Below The Ice", "This Big Hush", "The Only Thing That Shines", "Faded Flowers", "Malaria" and "Everything That Rises Must Converge" are all as good as "Nemesis" (a few of them are BETTER :-0)
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
djp dropping the truth bomb.
― mark e, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
I LOVE YOU BEST BUT IT'S ALL A MESS
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
lyrics sites are suggesting it's "when it's all a mess" but I had this album on tape and had to go w/what I heard
gotta admit i slept on this @ the time of release but once again...ty ilm :)
― chief content officer (m coleman), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ok, so I just did some quick A/Bing of the new deluxe version of "Oil And Gold" with the original, as well as the bonus tracks. My conclusions:
- The new version of the album is a bit 'hotter', i.e. compressed and loud, but otherwise sounds good. Nothing revelatory, mind you. - Of the bonus tracks, the only rare item is "Fish Below The Ice (Dance mix)" which has never been on CD before. The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample, was on a Richard Blade compilation and the live tracks were on a fanclub CDR so they're nice to have here. All the other O&G-era tracks have been on Shriekback compilations.- Why did they include "Lined Up" and "My Spine"? And "Lined Up" is CLEARLY from vinyl! Wtf?!
All in all, a nice expansion of the album, but nothing that should make you run out and upgrade your copy.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
any advise in sleevenotes re jam science reissue ?
cos that would be the one for me ..
― mark e, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Why did they include "Lined Up"
'Cos it rules so hard! Dave Allen absolutely on fire here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-R4XKuI7rA&feature=related
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 11 September 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
No argument there but it's not from the "Oil & Gold" period!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
guess its being included on this reissue as the track was dropped onto an extra 12" with the 12" of 'below the ice' (oh the days when labels gave away free 7"/12" singles - the double pack !) that came out during O&G campaign.embossed cover as well - hold the cover at an angle, and you can see some secret fish
― mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/Shriekback-Fish-Below-The-Ice/release/535819
― mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
The backing vocals/shrieks on Nemesis are possessed. Redonk. Incredible song.
― john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
I really liked Big Night Music too -- no big reissue of that yet eh?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
BNM : a perfect album.i love it.very different to the earlier material, yet still, very much in line with the shriekback story.would like to think if there is a reissue, then this could be a digitally sourced remaster/reissue.
― mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
They never really put a foot wrong until go bang and even then they made up for it in short order with the v underrated Sacred City
There is nothing I love more than the shriek vibe
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
They never really put a foot wrong until go bang
this. otm.
― mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample,
This makes so much sense that they would sample this, since Oil & Gold pretty much feels like sailing up the river to find Col. Kurtz.
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
Good essay on "Nemesis" here:
http://marchvladness.com/#/round2-siouxsievsshriekback/
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
Huh, thanks for the link, that was an interesting read.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
that was unexpectedly excellent! also i can confirm that in minnesota too, c.1985, i never heard the term 'goth' and 'batcaver' was the closest equivalent i heard at the time
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link
"Death rock" was what I heard in Massachusetts, but with "goth" spreading around 1986.
― bendy, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
PRIESTS AND CANNIBALSPREHISTORIC ANIMALS
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
EVERYBODY HAPPY AS THE DEAD COME HOME
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link