New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

So, on a day of high expectation built up over about six months, and with huge annual precedents in the ipod range:

- same phone but slightly faster
- same ipods

Anyone willing to bet Apple's working on another new-category device? Or an Apple TV replacement to do for TV what itunes did for music, maybe?

what are you thinking of when you say "do for tv what itunes did for music"?

Still have a 3G and was also hoping for an updated form factor (don't like the feel of the 4). My inner conspiracy theorist thinks they've purposefully made certain key apps (well, key for me) like Facebook and the Maps app run so slowly on the 3G (under iOS 4.2.1) that they're almost unusable. I'll likely go 4S but won't be happy about it. On the bright side iPhone 4 cases are dirt cheap and will work with the new one (I think). Wish there was a way to port iOS 5 to the Samsung Galaxy II S…

feel like apple has been whiffing with updates since the iPad, everything since then have been minor updates. the ipad 2 felt like it came way too soon on the heels of the ipad.

that would have been true if the ipad 1 wasn't missing a camera

although you're right, they probably weren't losing sales based on the limitations of the original ipad, given the lol competition

well I'm just thinking of the 'golden era' - unibody macbooks, ipod nanos, macbook air, iphone 3G, iphone 4 with retina screen, ipad... it always seemed at least one product line was receiving a 'revolutionary' update per year (probably gonna be disproved if I ever look back at the timeline)

but it really seems they're treading water/getting complacent atm

does not

talk fast

even by Steve's

slow ass

presentation standard

― stet, Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:32 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark

he's a weird sounding dude: half southern gentleman, half robot. not sure that he isn't powered by siri.

but i think the slow speech is a very conscious attempt to control his nerves. presume that's the reason why they used a much smaller venue too.

i think that has pretty much always been the default venue for non-WWDC/MacWorld announcements. a couple non-conference ones were done up in SF, but they are the exception. i think.

engadget making a strong case for the improvements of the 4gs

Engadget highlights the improved internal specs of the iPhone 4S, noting that everything "just feels zippier".

Every new thing ever made has felt zippier than the previous thing to everyone to ever use a thing.

this post makes my previous posts feel zippier

I don't know dayo, I don't think they've done a revolutionary product since the iPhone, if you're going to be all debbie downer here.

Since Jobs got back: iMac, OS X, Mac Mini (yeah whatever), aluminum Powerbook, iBook, Macbook, unibody iMac, unibody MBP, Intel transition, iPod + iTunes, Music store, iPhone, App Store, MBA.

Really unless they come up with a "better" unibody design or something that isn't a tab/pad/laptop/desktop, there's not a ton of options. Apple TV could "mature" or they could move into a different form factor, but really the next steps are higher res screens, smaller-bodied devices, solid state/nvram and cloud storage for everything, and whatever else.

They're at a point now where carving out a new market segment is just as possible as it was, but it's not really transparent to many people. What are the devices people are using that seem to have some utility that Apple doesn't have? I imagine a future iPhone update will do NFC or adopt something like QR codes or fly or something.

One way you can feel the increased zippiness of the new iphone right now is by picking up an ipad 2

Really everything else seems really lame. AMOLED, e-ink displays, and other shit will probably be a future, but not areas Apple has delved into for their own reasons.

iPad 2 having a camera and that being a "thing" for anything other than facetime is such a joke btw.

so apple's in the windows xp phase of its lifecycle!

I have taken pictures with my iPad 2 camera but only because I really wanted to be part of the super cool instagram club xp

I have never once cracked open either of the cameras on my ipad fwiw

Even for OCR the back camera is just too weak to be of any use

btw I have no inclination whatsoever to replace my 4 with one of these things (unless iOS 5 slows it down to a crawl)

OTM

um yeah that is because upgrading every generation is for mental people!

iOS 4 was a-ok on 3gs in my experience, iOS 5 may be pretty ok!

mental and/or ppl with way too much disposable income

I just upgraded to iOS 5 gold master version on an iPad (first version), I will report back. No, I'm not a developer, I'm just an impatient asshole.

phone/laptop with infinite battery life would be a game changer (just sayin...)

i have an iphone 3G, i am ready to upgrade

yeah if Apple makes a massive thermodynamic breakthrough in battery technology and gives us a laptop that can stream movies over the internet for three days without charging that would be revolutionary

but I feel like we are stuck with agonizing incremental progress on that front

I will admit that increased battery life has made me consider upgrading

dunno if I can justify spending $400 on a phone tho

there was a patent filing by apple awhile back about integrating solar panels to their idevices... (ominous elipses!)

If it was just a phone and not a thing that I am constantly using every minute I'm not a computer...

i think that has pretty much always been the default venue for non-WWDC/MacWorld announcements.
The September new-iPods refresh has been Moscone for years, I think.

Am kinda surprised there isn't a new form factor. That's the only thing between 4s and calling it a 5.

But yeah, Apple's done virtually everything that's been on the rumour roadmap since abt 1997 now - including phone and tablet, which seemed like ludicrous dreams in 2003.

Only things left are a:) a TV, b) a proper Mac Dock, c) xMac (smaller Mac Pro) and of them only TV has industry-changing potential and they're sucking at it right now.

when you are a computer can you find out why photoshop is so slow

do i really need to stop all the downloadin

Am kinda surprised there isn't a new form factor. That's the only thing between 4s and calling it a 5.

Also the musty iOS look that's really starting to feel staid these days.

and of them only TV has industry-changing potential and they're sucking at it right now.

TV has enormous potential. Everyone's sitting on their arses doing bugger-all (except for US stuff like Hulu which isn't available everywhere) and moaning about torrents etc. I am convinced that Apple will move on this and that it will change television.

(not necessarily in that order)

dunno if I can justify spending $400 on a phone tho

― the tax avocado (DJP), Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:31 PM (Yesterday)

not sure if you've used an iPhone before or not, but calling it a phone is missing the point entirely. i'm always shocked at people balking at the price when you consider what the thing does and how small it is. in 2004/2005 if you had told me about a handheld computer/music player that did everything the iphone did at that price, I would have not believed it. i barely make phone calls, have had 3 diff. iPhones and it has been worth every penny. will gladly buy this new one.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/04/facebook-apple-event/

lol bld, I have had an iPhone for 4 years; iPhone 4 was the first one actually worth owning (the previous ones I had were free)

the 3g was a pile of shit imo

3gs was the shit, yo.

bld i hear you but the idea of upgrading every year for $400 is what is ridiculous to me, not the $99 intro price or whatever i paid for my 3G. i only upgraded to 3GS because my 3G died.

^^^

I have a friend with far too much disposable income and a vicious "me first" impulse who has purchased upon initial release an original iPhone, a 3G, a 3GS, a 4, an iPad, an iPad 2, a Mac Book Pro and a Mac Book Air. I am certain he will be ordering a 4S at midnight on Friday.

So when are you putting the scheme into place to corrupt him into leaving you all his money before he mysteriously dies?

"there will be an appropriate response"

upgrading every year never seemed defensible when you had to lock yourself into a brand new 2 year contract every time. now that they sell unlocked iphones, it's marginally more defensible.

Still odd unless you want to play bleeding-edge games or are sight-impaired

or you look in your pockets and scream "OMG MONEY MUST SPEND"

Just read a report on the iphone 4s that said "it's no iphone 5"

"this phone that's not called an 'iphone 5', it's nothing like a phone that doesn't exist"

dunno if it's iphone5 or the budget model but apple is definitely working on something with more psp-like screen dimensions, if that's the theoretical phone you'd rather have.