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i think chang was the best thing about the episode. i also like michael k williams tho, legos bit was gold.

Parts of Chang's thing were great, and other parts were brutally unfunny.

The show is very hit or miss right now, even moment to moment.

was the saxophone playing a night moves reference??

don't really feel like michael k williams is that good in this? he's just getting by on who he is and basically transporting his tough-guy image to a silly comedy, but he seems stiff and doesn't really deliver most of the lines very well. the magnitude zing was his most effective bit so far. it's weird to see people complaining about chang and praising williams; the chang character might over the top but ken jeong is an amazing comedic actor.
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i agree and i'm glad you said it. i mean he's a personable actor and his lines are funny but i don't think he really is that effective here. i guess that's kind of un-PC since everybody loves him from 'the wire' .

I liked Chang more than usual in this one just because he didn't SCREAM EVERY LINE

I like that Williams is a much needed straight man to bring down all the Pop Pop etc.

Haverchuck worked better as a straightman teacher last ep though.

Want more Goodman soon.

I think Dan brought MKW very deliberately as a straight-man and grounding source to everything. He's mentioned repeatedly his paranoia/OCD that S2 broke the boundaries he himself was comfortable with re: a setting based in "realism", and due to that and him shotgunning the Wire in the off-season, made the connection to bring MKW as a dude in authority who's had some hard time dealing with grounded reality himself.

As a completely speculative and somewhat inebriated guess, I'm wondering if Williams will act as the deliberate countersink to all the zany shit that a network sitcom of 20-odd episodes will get up to, either by foregrounding certain character mechanics("Laughing at you") or just providing a in-situ real-world reaction and commentary to the proceedings as they play out for the rest of the year.

Also, am curious how they'll handle him meeting up with John Oliver's professor, or when the Dean's FREAKness gets visibly out of hand.

The Dean using the word "dean" in every conversation still gets me.

Also, I should restate how much I enjoy the fact that the behind-the-scenes crew obviously obsess over the characters/plot/dialogue/etc even if its just a network sitcom, and they're going up against shows where, to paraphrase Dan, it's pretty clear than all the writers were home by 5pm.

yeah MKW is pretty perfect imo, in the wrong hands that character could so easily be an angry black man stereotype or maybe in the opposite direction someone overly intellectual/fastidious but they're letting him take it somewhere else (and he totally has comedy chops)

chang's metaphors were the best

this ep felt a bit different. can't think of any other times the b-plot was a genre parody and the a-plot wasn't, and the last shot with todd's face (can't remember what it's called, with the circle thing) and maybe some other things. usually they don't really play with narrative conventions unless it's fitting with the main conceit of the episode and they don't do singular gags like that. not to over-think it but maybe this is slightly a new direction wrt dan making the show more accessible.

also i am very sad about sgt nunez quitting, he's been my favorite guest character this season

this whole episode seemed weirdly unfunny to me, like there were past episodes that were not that laughworthy that had some kind of interesting character drama or observations of people, but here it seemed like it was only interesting if you got what they were parodying, really really specifically, and i just didn't get it.

Hm. Apparently I'm weird because I liked this best of the three from this season so far. Not s2 level but had me lolling, even if it was dumb.

polyphonic has it, I think. show is erratic as hell this season, and suffering for it. much prefer self-aggrandizing chang to the hot mess writers turned him into in S2. stop wasting the guy, he can be awesome but this crazy loser schtick is just tired and dumb.

still get super-excited for the whole day before it comes on (well, it and P&R together)

i always feel like people are overthinking chang. they haven't given him a single thing he hasn't been able to make funny yet imo.

the show has always been erratic, pretty much by design

but the show is my rock!

at least until 30 rock comes back.

always seems weird when someone makes generalizations about an entire 20+ episode season 3 eps in

not criticizing, just feels like when people judge a ballplayer's stats a week into the season, i just don't get it

you shoulda heard me 3 seconds into the first episode

i agree and i'm glad you said it. i mean he's a personable actor and his lines are funny but i don't think he really is that effective here. i guess that's kind of un-PC since everybody loves him from 'the wire' .

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:16 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't think you understand 'political correctness'

also who is sgt nunez?

the head of security who quit at the end. he's been a highlight for me as well.

you know, the thing. keeps the cars out.

Todd was awesome! His voice & intonation was so great...

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, October 7, 2011 1:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I actually hated him and most of this episode on first viewing. But then, I also switched off the tv in anger at Homer's line "and the domestication of the dog continued unabated" in "And Maggie Makes Three" when that first aired; now that's one of my favorite episodes. And I reversed myself on Todd/this episode when I watched it again (his screechy speech at the end ruled).

Community is getting/has gotten into Simpsons Golden Era territory. There is no turning back.

The "No offense, Todd" repetition was great.

OFFENSE TAKEN

He really is a weird looking dude too.

He looked like an over-inflated Art Garfunkel.

the logline and title of next week's episode have me pretty psyched if you want to spoil just that little bit for yourself.

i agree and i'm glad you said it. i mean he's a personable actor and his lines are funny but i don't think he really is that effective here. i guess that's kind of un-PC since everybody loves him from 'the wire' .
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:16 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i don't think you understand 'political correctness'
also who is sgt nunez?
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, October 8, 2011 1:25 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

i think you are being a condescending ass and are excessively literal-minded to boot. hugs :x

(^o^)

is that a bat taking flight?

there was a lot of amusing stuff in this episode, esp anything involving Todd, but I one thing I loved about the show was how there was always relationship and character growth underneath the genre exercises - Det Chang just felt like empty wackiness in comparison, even if there were some decent lines.

Liked it plenty on the first watch and like it even more on the second - the Todd bits get funnier.

Todd is an amazing character and I hope we see more of him. I also love it when Jeff gets butthurt about not being as popular as he thinks he is.

The Chang stuff was pretty funny as well but I'm not sure Community works as well when it's just one character off doing their own thing. It would've been a better central
concept rather than a side-adventure.

Chang was so entwined with Britta last week that it worked to have him off being mental with Nunez and the Dean this time

The dual voiceover near the end is really funny once you work out what's going through the Dean's head.

I might be wrong but I think Williams' character is meant to be a pisstake of Shawshank Redemption style prison mawk?

Det Chang just felt like empty wackiness in comparison, even if there were some decent lines.

Yeah, this really registered on second viewing. It also seemed much less funny than it did at first. I think I felt similarly about Britta's OTT-ness in the previous episode.

The mannequin leg was classic IMO: "Get some rest. You must need it."

yes, this episode.

PIZZA PIZZA IN MY TUMMY PIZZA PIZZA ME SO HUNGY

Pregnancy test joke was all-time.

holy shit this episode was so good

oh god the outro

I like that they're illustrating quantum mechanics and multiverse/timeline-theory using _actual_ dice rolls.

Community for the win.

IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING:

RT @meganganz The troll is named Torg. #TorgFYI

Countdown to someone bitching about "another episode about the group dynamic in 5... 4..."

Seriously though, this was great. Best episode of the season so far.

britta is amazing this season