discogs marketplace?

i've shopped quite a bit on Discogs, 30+ purchases or so, and I have been satisfied in all but one. And in that instance I filed a claim through PayPal and got my money back. As long as you use PayPal you should be fine and protected, prices are high though and I don't buy anything under NM-, like everyone else here has said.

I've used it once so far without problem. There are some rare and/or hard to get things on there, but the prices seem a little over the odds a lot of the time.

lol last post on thread: http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=musicberlin

Um, someone want to try and explain this to me? Also WRT his feedback rating/comments?

hahaha. so weird. just 5 seconds ago i sent my friend a link to a record that is also $1540.00. 2 days ago it was $15. something's wacky.

holy shit, so weird. it's actually the same seller. wtf

discogs allows you to bulk upload items to your marketplace account for sale via a .csv file. I guess with an inventory of 25000 items this is what that seller does and that their prices got out of whack somehow in the process.

what i cant stand about discogs is the inflexiblity of postage rates. if im ordering one white label 12, theres no way the postage will be £2.75 or £3. very fucking annoying.

should that weigh less than a non white label?

xp OK that probably explains that

titchy are you saying that's over the odds? It's not if you consider postage plus if you have to buy a mailer!

i suppose. but white labels are still cheaper than normal lps.

i do like discogs though, the offers system is good too. some of the prices people put on their records though is ridiculous (and i do wonder if they do end up getting the prices they ask for).

what i cant stand about discogs is the inflexiblity of postage rates. if im ordering one white label 12, theres no way the postage will be £2.75 or £3. very fucking annoying.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:36 (18 minutes ago)

Postage rates have nothing to do with discogs though, they're entirely up to the individual seller, so I'm not sure what you mean by them being inflexible. You should contact the seller if you think they're charging over the odds.

I happily both send and receive offers on prices via discogs, often the listed price is just a ball park, or best hope, or even a stab in the dark if you're the only person selling an item.

Again, if you think something's over priced then just speak to the seller. No big deal. If they don't like your offer they'll ignore it or let you know. Easy as pie.

well i mean the indvidual seller obv, yeah.

I need to get rid of lots of dance vinyl - some desirable, some considerably less so - and ebay seems like a busted flush for this kind of thing: a few tumbleweed auctions surrounded by acres of Buy It Now postings from professional retailers. Has anyone here used it for selling recently? Is it better than ebay now? Does stuff shift fairly quickly or sit around for months?

I use discogs for buying and selling fairly often. For dance vinyl, I'd say it's def better than ebay. It's really quick and simple to list items, and there are no fees unless your items actually sell, whereas Ebay charges a listing fee. I have some things on discogs that have been sitting for quite a while now, but it all depends on what you have vs. how many others are selling the same item.

Best to put them on Discogs a couple bucks below whatever is the cheapest copy if you want to move it immediately. if you're in no hurry, put it at a good price, offer a discount for multiple items in the Comments field and wait.

Good advice. Thanks. Tbh I'm more interested in offloading most of it than making big £££.

ive put some stuff around the lowest price theyre listed at on discogs but still waiting to shift them. starting to think im possibly the only person buying old grime or dubstep 12s.

what does it mean when there's a color bar to the side of a release in discogs.

there's yellow, grey and orange here http://www.discogs.com/artist/Rolling+Stones%2C+The

If you hover over them it tells you.

ah! thank you. i've been searching for hours

So, if one were selling off a few hundred records of the psych / noise / jazz / indie variety, discogs over eBay, for sure? My issue with discogs (and, for CDs, Amazon) is the fact that things sell in spurts, with no deadline. It tends to make packing records and regular trips to the post office a full time job. Any advice?

i dunno, i always buy on discogs, sell on amazon. i don't want to wait for people to stumble over what i'm trying to unload, and on average, i get really good money from ebay sales.

i think the upside (sale price) on ebay is (or can be) higher, but the ease of doing stuff on discogs might be better, depending on how much hassle you're willing to go through

Yeah, I find Discogs has rarer stuff in the first place, and then for a more reasonable price than Amazon. If what you're selling is aimed at the collectors market or folks that may not look at Amazon first, Discogs is the way to go.

Thanks!

it feels good to sell rare-ish things on ebay for +£££s to people who don't know about discogs ;)

Coincidentally they just linked to this via their Facebook page:

http://www.discogs.com/blog/339369-top-30-most-expensive-items-sold-by-month

Advice on this:

Person contacts me on Discogs about an item that I am not listing for sale, offers me a large (but not obscene) amount for it, then paypals me with his "brother-in-law's" account and wants me to ship it to his sister (he's in Europe). Obviously I'm not going to ship it to anyone other than his brother-in-law (since anything else violates PayPal's Seller TOS) but should I even do that? Is this some sort of crazy elaborate scam to get a CD single? His Discogs rating is fine... but the whole thing seems pretty suspicious.

Obviously I will not accept the payment if I don't ship him anything btw.

I would just make sure to do delivery confirmation/insurance so he can't say it never arrived and file a claim with Paypal. That's the only scam I could think of if he already paid. Unless he somehow got hold of someone else's Paypal account but that seems far fetched.

Does seem a little suspicious to have done enough business on discogs to have a rating and yet you don't have your own Paypal acct?

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hmm discogs is really a good database and have often thought it would be nice to be able to look up different editions of books/comics/movies instead of just doing ebay-searches but not sure if this seems like a greedy move or an enthusiast move, also not sure if such databases/market places already exist

also, any thoughts on whether the new tax policy will be very harmful to the 2nd hand market place? (apparently Discogs will add 25% tax or something for all orders going from US to EU)

Whoa- what? Really?

It's VAT that's now payable on *fees* paid by sellers at their local rate if they are in the EU. Fees are 8% of sales prices.

So it only applies to sellers in the EU and it's nothing to do with where orders are going. I think it works out to no more than around 1.8% on the price of a record in practice. Presumably VAT registered businesses would be able to claim it back as well so no need to pass it on to customers.

I'll give Discogs credit for hooking me up with a good guy from Norway who had a Neil Young tribute LP I'd been trying to get for eight years (Everybody Knows This Is Norway. It's worth more than I was prepared to pay, so he ripped the CD, put it up on Soulseek, and I got it from him that way.

The other thing I've listed on my want-list is a Velvet Underground tribute that came out in the late '80s. I get an e-mail every few weeks saying one's up for sale, but it's always around 20 pounds, which after conversion and shipping is just way out of my buying range.

It seems to be a good place to buy from. I've only had one negative experience I can think of where a cd arrived shattered because it was sent with neither jewel case or adequate padding.
May have been others but that is the only one came to mind. Think I got a refund but not the cd I wanted.
Discogs is also a reasonably ok resource though it does have gaps. I use it frequently when EACing cds I've bought when they're not in the EAC database. Tends to have tracklisting down for main release version at least.
Gap can be in what releases are listed though.
Would be useful to have reviews of lps and individual release versions too. I think there are some reviews on site but sporadic. There is rateyourmusic I guess. But would be useful.

I actually appreciate discogs more because of the lack of reviews. Everyone on Rateyourmusic considers themselves geniuses but they're really just a slightly better class of youtube commenter.

I had someone buy from me in Argentina but wanted me to ship to his sister in Chile as you are 'not allowed' more than two foreign packages a year or some such.

So I did, and it all went fine.

JUst thinking that it would make it a full resource if people said what they thought of the lp since it could help one work out which lps by an artist were worth getting. also which pressings/releases of which lp.
BUt I guess that most people going to discogs are doing so to buy material they're already aware of. Particularly marketplace.
Just thought if it was done right it could help the experience. But not sure how 'doing it right' would be achieved anyway since I can see what johnny's saying about rateyourmusic being true at least to some extent. Ego/opinion outweighing info etc

Do wonder where you get information on the best sounding versions of things from since it doesn't seem to be fully utilised on RYM and Amazon just mixes all reviews for all releases under a title together.

Of course anyone can post reviews on there and the entire database is user populated. The process of submitting release data excludes editorialising though, which is as it should or it would never get done and.disagreements would be endless.

I like that the site still feels a bit down-home and ungentrified. Not unlike this place really. My impression is that the staff are still enthusiasts for the most part.

discogs are reviews are great, it's either:
a) old school clubbers reminiscing and being crazy hyperbolic about old school house/rave
b) a bunch of people posting "repress please?" or "you gougers should be ashamed or yourself" (hip euro "underground" deep house 12"s on small labels)
c) some person posting "the label on my copy is more periwinkle than violet and 'chuggin gasoline' is about 6 seconds longer than on the original uk chiswick issue"

haha that is so spot on. absolutely love the reviews that fall into the first category, they always make me smile. also love visiting profiles and seeing something like "I have been spinning UK Garage records for more than two decades now and have thousands of records in my collection! UK GARAGE FOR LIFE!!!!!!"

It's like some completely different side of the internet where the majority of people seem incredibly passionate and cynicism doesn't exist.

I have the 2014 issue, does it need a new entry ?
or, can someone pleas do an entry for the 2014 issue so's I can add it to my collection.

Really got into buying cheap records off discogs the last few months, but now a seller seems really flakey, took ages to send records and stopped replying to messages and then was all like "I sent your records two days ago according to my records" but they've not arrived and now I'm like ugh ugh ugh.

I posted in the vinyl/scams thread a month ago about a dispute with a seller on Discogs who sent me the wrong record and then has refused to deal with me (e.g. he said "I have someone who handles discogs for me - email them" but then won't give me that person's email address).

I've opened up a PayPal dispute but they give the seller ages to respond and it hasn't happened yet.

So I just had a (maybe stupid) question about Discogs feedback: If I give him Poor feedback, can't he also just respond with Poor feedback for me? I have a perfect record and don't want to tarnish it because he's been a dick, you know? Thanks for any guidance....

Wouldn't he have to buy something from you to give you bad feedback?

I once had someone send me a copy of the second Neu! album instead of the first but it's dead good so I wasn't too bothered

No, you can give feedback as a seller as well as a buyer.

The record I got instead of the one I wanted was NOWHERE NEAR as good as Neu!s second LP, I can assure you

Hi gang - I have a question. I've recently spent over four weeks painstakingly entering my entire CD collection (with vinyl and cassettes planned for later) and was planning to print out this master list for safe keeping (in case, you know, Discogs doesn't exist at some point or something). Then I noticed the "export" feature. Is this what I think it is? A way to save all this data to a hard drive, or Word doc or something? Why must I "request" a data export? Once it's exported, it's copied, (not transferred), right? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

this is akin to used book stores that sell what i can only describe as "bathroom books". water-stained paperbacks that they STILL try to get 5 bucks or more for. and i know its the same as the dirty CD thing which i also see in used record stores ALL the time. "Eh, its a paperback/CD, who cares. they're always dirty."

and don't get me started for the 400th time about dollar bins filled with unplayable trash with covers falling apart and covered in crap. either you are too lazy to walk to the dumpster or you really don't care about records at all. or both.

not just dollar bins with that stuff, it’s in the regular bins now.

books are even worse, I can’t be touching something for hours/days that has a stain or weird residue on it blecccch

yeah the regular bins are full of such junk in so many stores. there are stores throughout L.A. which i think take pride in never allowing shit condition records into the main stacks, and some which are at least 50% full of records in bad shape and they're selling them for $10. if a record is scratched or scuffed, it should be automatically a junker. those are the ones the stores need to sell for a quarter apiece as art pieces.

i still remember trying to find a copy of Gaucho for a friend and finding one at Record Parlour in Hollywood for $12 and it looked like a cat had gone at it. imagine being so craven that you'd sell a copy of Gaucho in that shape for that much.

I always try to list everything about one grade lower than I think it is or at LEAST “grade conservatively” because I’m always afraid my buyer is one of those super particular record geeks that’s not afraid to start some shit.

I don't want anything water damaged, period, even if it's clean water or if it's just a wrinkled booklet. But I've noticed there are plenty of people who will still buy CD's with wrinkled booklets or tray cards when it's clearly indicated as such, especially if it gets them a collectible, out-of-print CD for a much cheaper price, so I have no qualms with people selling them. They have to make that clear though - it pisses me off when someone marks a CD as just "Very Good" with no details and sends me something with a booklet or tray card that's all wrinkled from some liquid.

100% fine with trashed covers and VG+ vinyl here, gimme that discount

yea I got a really nice bargain at my local shop, it was a copy of Singles Going Steady with a completely mangled cover, really hard to tell what exactly happened to it. it was probably multiple things. the vinyl looked trashed as well but the guy insisted it actually played okay. he was right, somehow it did. when the covers are that bad I actually have some replacement outer sleeves where I just draw the cover on it myself. it's a fun little art project :)

my copy of Too Many Humans by No Trend is like that. cover is pretty trashed and no insert so I got it cheap but the vinyl is like VG++

well, i didn't say i wouldn't accept a trashed cover. rips and tears and wear are all fine with me, depending on context usually. sometimes a nice bright clear outer sleeve, and the disc in a separate, new "disco sleeve," can make a bad situation look "presentable." but if it's water damaged or moldy, it's not coming in my house

I have a couple with some mold, I'm not proud. used to have more! and definitely some water damage on a few, honestly I don't notice/care if it's minimal

(the first Last Poets album and a Hank Williams LP come to mind for mold stains, I mean yeah I wiped them down)

The worst are 12-inch singles that have been played in smoke-filled clubs. That shit takes a LOT of shifting.

"sort collection by median value" is so broken right now, I have top-dollar albums that don't show up at all, and others that are in the wrong place. pretty annoying, I use this view most often.

Half of my most-played records have been second-hand, animal-eaten, previously damp ones. Love a bargain.

sometimes for record shows i'll put together ten crates of really decent stuff within the 5 to 15 dollar range - and sometimes even higher if its stuff i don't sell quickly at the store or online - and make all the crates $5 records. its good for the store. good advertising. people are really happy. and i get to make all the dealers look bad. win/win! maria is doing a show today in connecticut and she said a dealer came up to her and said "you know, you can price stuff higher..." haha! i love hearing that. she's selling tons of stuff. i also told her to not start selling until the show actually opened. no early bird specials for dealers. i'm a stinker.

yeah I don't like that either, I keep my bins covered until it actually opens

looking at a something/anything? that i got in a DJ collection and its the holy grail red and blue promo pressing from 1972! that i didn't know existed until one minute ago. you learn something new every day. it sounds great.

https://i.discogs.com/WwS4V7FXTLGUtjJCcy_Ci-Hyq2Yi7SW5Ki_5Ut6sKLo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:400/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQyODQx/NTAtMTUxOTU3MzMy/Ny04MTMzLmpwZWc.jpeg

i come across a 1977 promo of "blue bayou" on blue vinyl. cool. it looks nice. then i keep going and i find a promo of "blue bayou" on...purple vinyl? these people were so high. and spent so much money.

"you got a great shop...a little retrospective..." *walks out door*

people wonder why i just want to sell on discogs 24/7...

having maria out front now has totally saved me. just being here on a day when she's usually here...............the very first person in the door grilled me about records, people selling records, selling his records, going on and on about his collection...turns out his records are in texas. *walks out door*

still nice people too of course. and we have been doing great instore which is nice and i'm glad cuz i work this stuff really hard.

I’ve got 2 tables at the upcoming record fair. One will be dedicated to $5 records, basically anything that has more than the lightest scuff. Some really good titles that I could easily try to squeeze $10 or more out of, but goddamn, let the people have some records!

yeah really!

right there with y'all, I am gonna have 2 tables/16 crates. CDs even! I pulled almost 500 but idk if I have room for all that. my sweet pricing spot is gonna be "more than a store would give me in a bulk sale, but fuck a discogs median"

Sunday June 2nd in Eugene Oregon, 13th and Oak, come say hi

Back on the subject of Discogs, I just want to reiterate: the APP is TRASH

Collection takes forever to load, if it ever does. It seems random whether you transaction inside the app or it punts you out to a browser. Sorting & filtering options are HARRIBLE.

It works nicely on desktop (esp with Discogs enhancer enabled), not too bad on mobile, and the APP is TRASH.

I forgot there even was an app, whenever I tried to use it, it wouldn't even log me in so I gave up on it a long time ago and use the website on my phone

Literally no reason to do anything else.

There’s an app called “Record Holder” that’s a pretty good substitute for the official app, adding stuff to collection is really easy

I mean, for maintaining your collection, I don’t think you can buy stuff on it

yeah I don't like that either, I keep my bins covered until it actually opens

I didn't know about that. The first time I shared a table at a WFMU record fair many years ago I thought it would be fun to bring a lot of dance stuff, at a time when there weren't a lot of people selling 80s club stuff at those fairs, I had a lot of dupes and it wasn't super expensive stuff but I priced it all really low because I thought I'd be some kind of hero to kids getting into proto-house or whatever.

Soon as I set up a bunch of dealers came over and just grabbed everything. Like before I even knew what was happening they had piles in their hands and were handing me cash. Really lame. Stupid of me.

vultures.

maria did really well. the guy who told her should could sell stuff for more didn't sell anything and was amazed when she started stacking up empty crates. some dealer came up at the very end and asked if he could get two records for $7 instead of $10 and she said: no, put one back. haha! that's my gal!

i did good at the store today too. sold a bunch of records.

maria did really well. the guy who told her should could sell stuff for more didn't sell anything and was amazed when she started stacking up empty crates. some dealer came up at the very end and asked if he could get two records for $7 instead of $10 and she said: no, put one back. haha! that's my gal!

xp I don't understand this custom (which I have also witnessed). Is the idea that the vulture dealers are going straight back to their own tables to mark up those very same records for sale that day? What kind of profit could they actually gain from this? A few bucks? If they sell? Maybe I'm dumb.

Woops meant to just express my lols at your story Scott.

"Is the idea that the vulture dealers are going straight back to their own tables to mark up those very same records"

nah, they'll mark them up for the next show. these guys don't always find good stuff on their own. they rely on shows to find cheap stuff.

oh god and heaven forbid some normal citizen decides to sell at a show and prices everything really low. its like locusts. all of a sudden the poor guy is just standing there with empty boxes and no clothes on.

seen that too

i have a friend who goes to shows to stock his store and i honestly don't know how he does it. he buys good stuff! at high prices. but his bins look nice and shiny for a week. it works for him somehow. he bought a ton of my stuff today. but during the show. like a person. i don't begrudge that. i buy lots of store stuff during shows. i mostly look for cheap funk and soul because i don't get a lot of it where i am. and nobody wants the cheap stuff like that at shows. so, it works out for everyone.