BET Hip-Hop Awards 2011 Cyphers With DJ Premier

i wonder how far it goes back? i know big daddy kane ghostwrote, he was the first person i really heard it about...until like jay-z and mad skillz made a big deal abt it

I think "Aston Martin Music" is the only Rick Ross song I've heard on the radio here. :/

i wonder how far it goes back?

do you consider Rapper's Delight ghostwritten or just biting

rap stations in chicago move in blocks like -- lil wayne, ross/mmg, drake, waka

i want to live in a-mer-i-ca

i wonder how far it goes back?

do you consider Rapper's Delight ghostwritten or just biting

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:40 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the old story is that they actually stole grandmaster caz's rhyme book right? though that sounds a little to cute/possibly apocraphyl

no way ross has a ghostwriter, because every single verse has the same rick ross flow

I dont understand the disconnect that everyone wants Ibiza bloodfart Bruno Mars rap 364 days of the year and then Twitter reliably jizzes their pants on the one day a year when BET lets Chris Brown act like Anticon guys going to Skribblejam.

twitter users and radio listeners are both large groups of people that are not necessarily many of the same people, for one

also who is this 'everyone' you talk of whiney? because fuck off if i understand any of what you just strawmanned.

Not strawmanning anyone in ILX, hoy

Blacks! Twitter! Blacks on twitter!

Man, you guys are paranoid as fuck. I meant like the billion entertainment blogs in my feed but OK

lots of ppl who don't give 2 shits about 90s ny rap in reality understand that it is 'worthy canonized serious music' now the way ppl fetishize dated concepts of 'soul' and thus pay deference to it in writing even if they dont actually know the diff between leaders of the new school & kwame

poor kwame :(

also is there really a 'disconnect' between people who like cheesy pop rap and people who are impressed by chris brown's rapping?

"i closed my eyes and i could swear he was Jermaine Dupri reincarnated...the GOAT!"

some dude will be fucking pedantic about anything

why don't you make a top 40 whiney posts you can be pedantic about and poll them

you know what i meant, al

oops i said my pedantic

i honestly don't know what your original rant "means" really dude, it's easier to make stupid jokes out of it than take it seriously

what does any of this really mean. D-40 feels me tho

My point is there is a machine in place via labels/mags/blogs that says 364 days a year people want shitty pop rap; and then once a year there's this REALLY POPULAR FEATURE on the BET Awards that is literally the only thing anyone knows about the BET awards where everyone acts like backpacker nerdballs and this is supposedly really novel and interesting and thrilling. And it's like, if people like this--WHICH THEY CLEARLY DO--why don't we reward people for rapping all year instead of like drowning everything in dipshitty Alex Da Kid Glee rap and Bruno hooks and hashtags

that's like saying "i see so many people excited on the internet about arcade fire playing on snl, why don't they sell more records than nickelback? it's a conspiracy man"

you are so fucking infuriating

the charts have been democratized -- the machinery may want LMFAO to dominate the airwaves but the fact of the matter is people are going to iTunes and buying that shit in droves, afaik there's no way to fake that

like if you actually want people to poke holes in your incoherent swiss cheese 'argument' then post it here, if you just want people to agree and say yeah you're totally right man then uh go join all the other people on twitter who think skillz should be on bet every day

If you can't see that entertainment industry understanding the appeal of """indie culture""" like Arcade Fire is why we have shit like Juno and Two Broke Girls and Dude Where's My Pants, then you are are even more clueless than your fake avuncular act makes you appear to be on ILX

Gosh why do twitter people say great things about burgeoning indie stars like Eminem and Busta Rhymes

once again you think i'm disagreeing with you when i actually don't understand you at all and i'm just making fun of how incoherent you are

this shady records cypher is 9 minutes long, did they really air this on television?

fwiw we now live in a world where royce is doing labored punchlines in between bruno mars choruses on pop radio 24/7 so i guess it's not even an either/or thing anymore

i took the wine out of amy's house

maybe the shaky analogy i'm looking for is people freaking out about prince's "while my guitar gently weeps" solo when it's been how many years since a top 10 hit even had a guitar solo -- i mean excitement displays of virtuosity probably gets even stronger when that particular type of skill falls out of favor in popular music

btw did you see the 'drum solo week' on letterman over the summer? shit was pretty wild, just the concept alone. also copeland went ham.

Eminem starting with the fake 90s backpack battle rap is fucking hilarious

hehehehe @ this entire argument

i heard buddens was to shook to battle the based god live on the BET awards

oh yeah b.o.b's was dope, it's too bad he refuses to rap

man gunplay got quoted TWICE in these things, weird

oh chris brown really opened his verse with a boxing metaphor? YOU DON'T SAY

lol @ luda's emphatic "WHOOOOOOO" for 2 chainz' one grocery bag ling

LOL @ his pronounciation of "galifinakis"

maybe the shaky analogy i'm looking for is people freaking out about prince's "while my guitar gently weeps" solo when it's been how many years since a top 10 hit even had a guitar solo -- i mean excitement displays of virtuosity probably gets even stronger when that particular type of skill falls out of favor in popular music

i think that's a good analogy, and just like these freestyles, no one really thinks it would work on the radio. not that people don't want to hear a great verse or a great guitar solo within the context of a hit, but pointed chops showcases like these makes for better internet videos than pop music.

kwame wasn't that bad!

#polkadotswag

just watched the first one and holy shit eminem

my fav so far, of course, is drake

I find the things whiney finds infuriating totally befuddling

as in I guess I am just totally oblivious to them, the pop rap twittersphere, blogfeeds etc

*goes back to hide in cave*