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a new cousin fik tape dropped : http://t.co/62Ehr2dK

sisilafami, Monday, 31 October 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

uh oh playlist is getting long

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm_m8LizquM

ok, dope video

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

This Freddie Gibbs album sounds AMAZING guys. like legit great

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, 31 October 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

if you cant find something to like from the last 24 hrs or the next 24 you dont like rap imo

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, 31 October 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

A$AP tape is out now
http://www.asapmob.com/2011/10/new-mixtape-asap-rocky-liveloveasap/

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

its crazy how much more hype he has than any of these other artists right now

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

how does that work, seriously

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

bloggers?

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

three million dollars

Number None, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

come on really? i can see you have a thing against this guy but its pretty obviously: to a lot of people it's way more interesting music that's why. he's got a whole team he's introducing. he's bringing two internet niche dudes into his camp with this release (clams and SGP) and putting them out into the world of missinfo and nah right. he's blending all these weird influences out of NYC. it's a whole movement with its own cryptic codes and symbols, which as proven by of and Weeknd is the new model for success when channelled through tumblr

not even gonna talk about wale and freddie gibbs...love danny brown but black milk is equally zzzz as those other two

lep bogus boys, i honestly don't know much about them i'm sure they make good music but what's the story there

and soulja and 2 chainz are mostly lol to everyone

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

you need to get your head out of the ny media myopia circle

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

you need to get your head into reality

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

this is how buzz happens now. it's 2011

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

the only people asap rocky is more popular than 2 chainz for is ny media types

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

freddie gibbs managed to get buzz back when the buzz revolved around those blogs. now it jsut doesnt originate from there anymore.

in 2012 it will work some other way. bt in 2011 it's very obvious how buzz was made over and over

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

All this has just made me realize how much I've (at least temporarily) stopped caring about keeping up with rap. Even the shit I'd probably like I can't be bothered with right now. :/

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

ok are we talking about popularity or buzz? buzz is a media invention. youre clearly talking about media types that you follow on twitter etc. BUZZING more about ASAP than 2 Chainz.

no one has gone on to the street and done a poll obviously. in a national popular vote 2 chainz would win. if you could measure buzz asap would win and one day he'll be MUCH more popular than fucking 2 chainz.

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

freddie gibbs managed to get buzz back when the buzz revolved around those blogs. now it jsut doesnt originate from there anymore.

in 2012 it will work some other way. bt in 2011 it's very obvious how buzz was made over and over

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 8:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont see how its 'way more interesting music'

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

no one has gone on to the street and done a poll obviously. in a national popular vote 2 chainz would win. if you could measure buzz asap would win and one day he'll be MUCH more popular than fucking 2 chainz.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 8:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol you are riding dude's jock hard. this dude's being horrendously overrated. as a rapper hes average at best man.

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

ooh hes using clams casino!! how novel!

so basically, being clued in to what stereogum considers dope rap music is more likely to make a rapper successful than building a steady grassroots fanbase over years & years?

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

ny rappers getting onto SIZZURP eight years late doesnt make something novel. max b incorporated national influences before ASAP, its nothing new

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

nycentric mentality has messed w/ your brainz

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

a friend of mine just now:

Senor Pants: im listening to ASAP Rocky and i was gunna say why would anyone give this guy 3 million dollars
Senor Pants: but then that reminded me of papoose calling himself the 1.5 million dollar man

mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

1) he has a narrative that's MUCH more interesting than "earnest rapper gets signed doesnt put out music than does". blogs and magazines create naratives around these guys and then they all just line up to the pump . asap's is way more rich
2) there's a whole set of codes and a language to this guy's brand that is much more stylish than anything any of the people you listed have. this is music being sold to an audience that his much more heterogeneous than it used to be and one accustomed to music that comes with mythology. they are iconoclasts. look at every artist that broke out of tumblr in the past year and they have mystery/symbols/signs/logos/memes that look good and reward deeper engagement and so are spread around.

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

so basically, being clued in to what stereogum considers dope rap music is more likely to make a rapper successful than building a steady grassroots fanbase over years & years?

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:07 PM (2 minutes ago)

ooooh

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

chill and wait for an answer before you respond to nothing

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

what's ASAP's narrative other than the fact that he's boys with RNT?

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

1) he has a narrative that's MUCH more interesting than "earnest rapper gets signed doesnt put out music than does". blogs and magazines create naratives around these guys and then they all just line up to the pump . asap's is way more rich
2) there's a whole set of codes and a language to this guy's brand that is much more stylish than anything any of the people you listed have. this is music being sold to an audience that his much more heterogeneous than it used to be and one accustomed to music that comes with mythology. they are iconoclasts. look at every artist that broke out of tumblr in the past year and they have mystery/symbols/signs/logos/memes that look good and reward deeper engagement and so are spread around.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 8:11 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is an argument about what impacts magazines, which yeah has an influence on what people buy & has forever cf the clipse, but is not even close to the whole story & discounts the influence of like Magic City or street buzz or touring or any number of other things

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

yo you're changing the argument as we're having it.

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not gonna make any proclamations about whether or not ASAP is going to be a return on an investment made by executive, but surfboards is right.

here's the shortest possible version of why ppl are on jocking asap right now: he's inherently and effortlessly, and ppl want to be around that, and always have

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

meek mill is a bigger rapper than asap rocky right now w/ almost any rapper i've interviewed. Every rapper wants that asap rocky buzz but how many of them listen to it & are like "yeah asap rocky is a dope rapper"? none

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

here's the shortest possible version of why ppl are on jocking asap right now: he's inherently and effortlessly, and ppl want to be around that, and always have

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:14 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

?

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

lol, inherently and effortlessly COOL

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

DUDE. i can't even keep track of what you want to debate

the question is; why does he have more buzz?

buzz being defined as: people who's job it is to create buzz being excited

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

haha i wonder what's the amazing all-important word j0rdan accidentally left out of his post (xpost)

mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

if you knew 2 chainz had more ppl talking about him in the strip club than why didnt you jsut say that. thats not buzz that anyone here can accurately measure

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

inherently & effortlessly cool

are you saying hes the only rapper right now to have these qualities?

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

that's pretty subjective and probably short-lived

you said it yourself before today the man had released three minutes of good music - the buzz relative to his skills/actual output is wildly out of proportion - and his buzz is mostly with people like us who read internety rap blogs btw

xps re cool

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

the question is; why does he have more buzz?

buzz being defined as: people who's job it is to create buzz being excited

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 9:15 PM (1 minute ago)

lol as i was saying - this is exactly why he's much less interesting than you seem to think

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

btw j0rdan that Main Attraktionz / ASAP song that soulja used in the other thread is on this renamed "Leaf"

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

k3vin k. you have no grasp of the context that post obviously

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

im listening to this now, peso is dope but i really dont like clams casino i think

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

are you saying hes the only rapper right now to have these qualities?

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

no, but he's the leading rapper who has those qualities as it pertains to hip internet things

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

yes but we're talking about why he is 'hip internet thing'

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

this is actually better than i expected, to top it all off

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

yes but we're talking about why he is 'hip internet thing'

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:21 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark

bcuz he marketed himself that way and ppl bought into it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

schoolboy q stands out when his verse comes in.

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

well again as someone who doesnt spend all day reading/care about these rap blogs & their buzz, what exactly is his unique narrative

xp surfboards

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link


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