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but yeah i mean this is a no-win for the z's imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

https://squareup.com/cardcase/tabs

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.dwolla.com/

if you're mentioning that, I'm gonna rep for the local payment up-and-comer

mh, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

rad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

When the kidnapped activist was freed on Nov. 4 with a note from her captors threatening to kill 10 people for every name released, OpCartel was quickly called off. “We blackmailed them,” says Barrett Brown, an informal spokesman for Anonymous, noting that the Zetas don’t often release victims alive. “And they blackmailed us.”

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 November 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Raul Castro’s daughter and a dissident Cuban blogger have engaged in a prickly back-and-forth on Twitter.

Mariela Castro’s debut on the social media service began smoothly enough when she sent her first tweets Tuesday talking about a visit to the Netherlands and her work as the country’s leading gay rights activist. Then dissident blogger Yoani Sanchez fired the first salvo.

“They tell me Mariela Castro opened a Twitter account,” Sanchez wrote. “A question for her, ‘When will we Cubans be able to come out of other closets?’”

Two more tweets directed at the first daughter quickly followed: “Welcome to the plurality of Twitter ... here nobody can shut me up, deny me permission to travel or impede entrance,” and “How can one ask for acceptance only in one area? Is tolerance total or not?”

Castro, who is the head the National Sex Education Center, shot back at Sanchez by name, saying, “Your approach to tolerance reproduces the old mechanisms of power. To improve your ‘services’ you should study.”

Later, she grumbled about “despicable parasites” criticizing her on Twitter: “Were you ordered by your employers to respond to me in unison and with the same predetermined script? Be creative.”

Cuba accuses dissidents like Sanchez of being mercenaries in the hire of Washington.

On Wednesday Sanchez tweeted, “I would love it if everyone on the (Communist Party’s) Central Committee got on Twitter. We would tell them in the virtual world what they don’t let us in the real one.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/raul-castros-daughter-opens-twitter-account-gets-into-war-of-words-with-dissident/2011/11/09/gIQAXPML5M_story.html

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 November 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally read the Lanier. Think much of the crit was handled way upthread, but <3 for reminding me that there was a time when we hoped that everything wouldn't be slathered in advertising and that there might be some alternative ways of funding things.

stet, Monday, 23 January 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b7lQNiW2GI8/R6MWRH3q8UI/AAAAAAAAAA8/k1-0Jw0YXRM/s320/wired.gif

But one name stands out, maybe because it was designed to. And for the moment it's sticking: zippies. It stands for Zen-inspired professional pagans, according to 50-year-old Fraser Clark, shamanic zippie spokesperson, club manager and editor of Encyclopedia Psychedelica (EPi), the magazine that first identified the "hippies with zip." According to EPi, a zippie is "someone who has balanced their hemispheres to achieve a fusion of the technological and the spiritual. The techno-person understands that rationality, organization, long-term planning, consistency and single-mindedness are necessary to achieve anything solid on the material level. The hippie understands that vision, individuality, spontaneity, flexibility and open-mindedness are crucial to realize anything on the spiritual scale."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

Finally read the Lanier. Think much of the crit was handled way upthread, but <3 for reminding me that there was a time when we hoped that everything wouldn't be slathered in advertising and that there might be some alternative ways of funding things.

― stet, Monday, January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tru

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

so this is a long lecture, 45ish minutes when you cut out the intro, and like a lot of dense lectures its kinda better to watch-with-the-slides than just listen to it, but god i fucking love this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMxz7rzwee8

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

still trying to steel myself for a 45 minute video. what has the internet done to my mind

stet, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

every time I hover over the link I think "maybe if I wait another day someone will summarise the key point inside ~ marks"

stet, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

he gave a talk at PDF 12 yesterday, shorter and uses the sopa/pipa fight as a case study to touch on some of his larger themes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LNP9f8geCWA#!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

son of a bitch

well there it is, regardless

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

he starts at 1:20

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

and here's lanier who i think is kind of a old-ass man with old-ass man ideas but i like having him in the tent pissing out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxRSv5Vrqxo&feature=relmfu

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://fiber.google.com/plans/residential/ this seems an amazing deal for US internauts

stet, Thursday, 26 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

damn yo!

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4923208


Yhippa 17 hours ago | link

So this guy has been able to find a common schema across several different domains and add rules to it to churn out content. I like the concept. I watched the video in the article and could see how this could be used for instruction in the case where the resources like trained teachers are scarce.

I've had a feeling for a long time that due to the predictability of humans and our processes that it this is inevitable. I think it's great that he can do this for things like instruction but if this were to get "smart" enough that would put a lot of people out of work.


jacobr 4 hours ago | link

Libraries in Sweden, and probably in other countries as well, have their own "algorithms" to decide what to purchase - at a university it could be everything related to a particular topic, for instance. This means that these computer-generated books are in stock in many libraries (at the taxpayer's expense).


Dove 16 hours ago | link

I wonder if he'll ever collide with this guy: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4906456 (Bot written to buy random things each month from Amazon)

wolves lacan, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

And the UK goes from 'a nation of shopkeepers' to 'a nation a botfeeders'...

Black Rod, Jane, and Freddy (snoball), Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

thats an old story, i think, or that guy has been active a while

max, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

i wrote a piece that included that guy and some similar things

http://gawker.com/5901842

max, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

what do we think about ~fb search~

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

garbage in garbage out

ledge, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I still don't get why anyone 'likes' any product etc

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

Graph search is some powerful shit; will be way more useful when it's open to the world and not just locked inside FB

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

it does not seem like powerful shit to me tho I hope it is because anything that cuts into google's revenues can't be bad

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

I guess in order to do a decent 'future of the internet' prediction one would have to take a look at the start of the internet and compare it to now and extrapolate from there. So, less about the public sector and more about private companies, advertising, data mining. Less about experts and more about everyone's opinion is valid. Less about content and more about presentation. Less about sitting at a terminal and more integrated into every day life. Less anonymity and more whoring yourself out.

Maybe instead of fb search and google ads in the future there will be some kind of monster googlish service everyone uses that simply straight up puts a dollar value on you that fluctuates from day to day, so that if you check in to Starbucks and like this movie and blah blah every time you endorse a product your value goes up, you get higher grade ads, maybe you get a higher quality internet experience too. The more friends that like your stuff the more your value goes up too, so socialization becomes more and more important. The amount of your popularity isn't just some silly hangup leftover from high school it actually has real market value.

I could keep going but i'm going to cut it off there, where it's already incredibly terrifying to me.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe instead of fb search and google ads in the future there will be some kind of monster googlish service everyone uses that simply straight up puts a dollar value on you that fluctuates from day to day, so that if you check in to Starbucks and like this movie and blah blah every time you endorse a product your value goes up, you get higher grade ads, maybe you get a higher quality internet experience too. The more friends that like your stuff the more your value goes up too, so socialization becomes more and more important. The amount of your popularity isn't just some silly hangup leftover from high school it actually has real market value.

the important part is that you can opt out of the whole personal $ value thing. however, opting in gives you a 10% discount off of all products, access to special sales, and faster internet service.

Z S, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

see I am waiting for that part until I start liking 'pepsi' etc on fb

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

where is my free shit

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

The reason graph search is so powerful is that the relationship between things is explicit, not just inferred, and so you can query against relationship. Off the top of my head, how about a search something like "create me a playlist of new music from artists mentioned in tweets or blog posts written by posters on ILM who have super compatibility with me".

Which would be a nightmare of APIs to create as a one-off thing, but is actually pretty trivial if the sites involved do some pretty trivial semantic tagging.

Pragmatically speaking, however, that sort of encoding is totally against the way things are trending right now, though, and permissioning gets beyond tricky if people want to prevent advertisers also using the same data.

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

see I just don't see very many reasons why I would need to do that search

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

and even if those complex searches were useful they are not things that you'd be doing 50 times a day

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

No but things can do those searches on your behalf.

I would like a live-updating spotify playlist of that sort of music. I'd like a collation of interesting photographs posted on flickr and facebook and twitter by people I know on any of those services. Graph-style searches are really great for creating filters, and proper personalised filtering is definitely a ~future of the internet~ thing. Manually curating yr blogroll is so 1998.

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

I mean can advertisers / researchers / etc do cool and wild things with the info in the fb database? for sure. but for my day to day I really don't need or want things that relate to 'groups of people I know'.

sorta like g+'s 'circles' was this killer product cause it lets you group people but that really wasn't that interesting or important

xp

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

like okay fine, I want to have my blogroll linked to ilx users I know and people from college who I still talk to, okay cool done, that was one thing that I searched for once now and I'm done searching for things.

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

it's not really an either/or thing! might not be useful to iatee but plenty of others will figure out cool shit to do with it. i'm pretty excited to mess around with it when it's released.

Z S, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah sure people can do cool shit with it the question is whether millions of people are going to find it useful in their day to day lives and not just a toy / slightly improved fb search bar. like what need or need-that-will-be-created is this gonna fill for millions of people.

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

in terms of data mining, i'm always stoked whenever a major data provider, let alone a giant like facebook, takes steps to open up their data. i don't really care about the masses on this, although i'm prepared to be happily surprised when someone uses the data for unexpectedly good ends. it's more about what it can do for researchers and developers. totally pulling this out of my ass here (eww), but one interesting bit of research might be to look at how local environmental disasters affect facebook users' interest in environmental issues, and how that interest declines or is maintained over the months after the disaster.

Z S, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

i'm hungry for a steak right now - anybody want to ~steakme one?? I'll ~corndog you back later, maybe with like 3 dogs ;) hit me dayoste✧✧✧@stea✧✧✧.st✧✧✧

乒乓, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

see I don't think fb is gonna open up that kinda data in the way that you're suggesting i.e. some grad student will be using this in a dissertation. if that really is the case then yeah, I look forward to the kinda info that will be made public but I still don't think it will be particularly useful for some 15 y/o. but I don't think that's going to be the case because that type of data is one of fbs most valuable assets.

iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

everything I read about facebook makes me more glad I opted out

I really only want to listen to whatever records I find at the thrift store this week

1.5GB of audio-destroying fluff (los blue jeans), Thursday, 17 January 2013 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

this is not * internet * per se but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp89tTDxXuI&feature=youtu.be

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 February 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

its true, i peed my pants

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 February 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

how do you feel about sherry turkle. fun read imo:

http://toptrends.nowandnext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Alone1.jpg

Woody Ellen (Matt P), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

terrible cover, sorry X(

Woody Ellen (Matt P), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

I watched this google glass preview recently where a google designer unironically said something to the effect of "we designed this because we realized we needed technology to get out of the way more"

I hate the overuse of the world "orwellian" but jfc, you are strapping an android phone to your FUCKING FACE

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't read the turkle book but saw her ted talk in school a while back & found it pretty frustrating. she seemed to really ride for the technology-is-impoverishing-discourse argument, comparing text messages, say, to ~real conversation~, without noting any of the corollaries to the fact that we're talking that way, now; that we might be using those texts as part of a bigger, multi-(ugh)-media dialogue; that we're able to talk to people to whom we feel connected, rather than just who we're just born geographically proximate to; that the rhythms are different, scope is different, sense of social space is different, &c&c&c. to her she just saw it as an equivalent transaction but just one that was crudely rendered, yielded less of an immediate & nourishing social kick. i probably don't need to spell out the various empowering/anonymising/pro-social dimensions of remote communication to people reading the technology thread on an internet messageboard, but it kinda bugged me & made me sorta lazily bump her into a kind of generation-divide pile of people (/lost unsalvageable souls) unable to grasp the parameters of a modern life interwoven with technology & sprawling across different platforms (which like i am by no means totally unqualifiedly pro-, just, i am not anti- on the base of it being less neighbourly or w/e).

what's the book like, matt? i am happy to be corrected if this seems like a misrepresentation, & would be interested to hear if it sprawls off into other directions. it's just that it seemed like her basic take, that there's been a switch of platform without equal understanding that there's a lot of context to the new media, seemed off.

schlump, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link


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