ny rappers getting onto SIZZURP eight years late doesnt make something novel. max b incorporated national influences before ASAP, its nothing new
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
nycentric mentality has messed w/ your brainz
a friend of mine just now:
Senor Pants: im listening to ASAP Rocky and i was gunna say why would anyone give this guy 3 million dollarsSenor Pants: but then that reminded me of papoose calling himself the 1.5 million dollar man
― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
1) he has a narrative that's MUCH more interesting than "earnest rapper gets signed doesnt put out music than does". blogs and magazines create naratives around these guys and then they all just line up to the pump . asap's is way more rich2) there's a whole set of codes and a language to this guy's brand that is much more stylish than anything any of the people you listed have. this is music being sold to an audience that his much more heterogeneous than it used to be and one accustomed to music that comes with mythology. they are iconoclasts. look at every artist that broke out of tumblr in the past year and they have mystery/symbols/signs/logos/memes that look good and reward deeper engagement and so are spread around.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
so basically, being clued in to what stereogum considers dope rap music is more likely to make a rapper successful than building a steady grassroots fanbase over years & years?
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:07 PM (2 minutes ago)
ooooh
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
chill and wait for an answer before you respond to nothing
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
what's ASAP's narrative other than the fact that he's boys with RNT?
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 8:11 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is an argument about what impacts magazines, which yeah has an influence on what people buy & has forever cf the clipse, but is not even close to the whole story & discounts the influence of like Magic City or street buzz or touring or any number of other things
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
yo you're changing the argument as we're having it.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not gonna make any proclamations about whether or not ASAP is going to be a return on an investment made by executive, but surfboards is right.
here's the shortest possible version of why ppl are on jocking asap right now: he's inherently and effortlessly, and ppl want to be around that, and always have
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
meek mill is a bigger rapper than asap rocky right now w/ almost any rapper i've interviewed. Every rapper wants that asap rocky buzz but how many of them listen to it & are like "yeah asap rocky is a dope rapper"? none
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:14 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark
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lol, inherently and effortlessly COOL
DUDE. i can't even keep track of what you want to debate
the question is; why does he have more buzz?
buzz being defined as: people who's job it is to create buzz being excited
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
haha i wonder what's the amazing all-important word j0rdan accidentally left out of his post (xpost)
― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
if you knew 2 chainz had more ppl talking about him in the strip club than why didnt you jsut say that. thats not buzz that anyone here can accurately measure
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
inherently & effortlessly cool
are you saying hes the only rapper right now to have these qualities?
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
that's pretty subjective and probably short-lived
you said it yourself before today the man had released three minutes of good music - the buzz relative to his skills/actual output is wildly out of proportion - and his buzz is mostly with people like us who read internety rap blogs btw
xps re cool
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 9:15 PM (1 minute ago)
lol as i was saying - this is exactly why he's much less interesting than you seem to think
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
btw j0rdan that Main Attraktionz / ASAP song that soulja used in the other thread is on this renamed "Leaf"
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
k3vin k. you have no grasp of the context that post obviously
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
im listening to this now, peso is dope but i really dont like clams casino i think
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
no, but he's the leading rapper who has those qualities as it pertains to hip internet things
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
yes but we're talking about why he is 'hip internet thing'
this is actually better than i expected, to top it all off
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:21 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark
bcuz he marketed himself that way and ppl bought into it
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
schoolboy q stands out when his verse comes in.
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
well again as someone who doesnt spend all day reading/care about these rap blogs & their buzz, what exactly is his unique narrative
xp surfboards
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:22 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i feel like we're running in circles here
having a terrible awkward name plays into his coolness, right
― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:22 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
ha i didn't really like this guy, just threw off the mood totally
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah tautologies galore tbh xxxp
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Monday, October 31, 2011 9:23 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark
just ask the Weeknd
what i'm saying!
― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
i mean when it comes down to it, 'why is this so buzzed' isnt the question, its 'why on earth is the buzz so out of proportion to quality'
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
having an ability to rap would probably be very jarring in the context of this record
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
the thing that throws this debate off is the THREE MILLION DOLLAR DEAL thing which really moved the goalposts, as they say
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:25 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
its not like he was avoiding letting this happen
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
DJ Burn One really hooked dude up, thats one of the more memorable moments on the record
and as someone who makes ridiculous assumptions about someone you do not know you also will get no response beyond this.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i agree. it sucks that it has to be so controversial. it's jsut a fuckin tumblr mixtape and now we have brooklyn vegan trolls giving their two cents. unneccessary
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i will tell you right now, I'm not even a freddie gibbs fan like that but his is a much stronger record
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
can you draw up the formula for converting BUZZ to BUZZ in proportion to QUALITY
cuz then we can talk
might wanna use some greek letters
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
maybe lambda = amount of strip club patrons who have heard of x (x being rapper's name)
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, October 31, 2011 9:26 PM (2 minutes ago)
lol ive been posting on these threads for 3 years now, i didnt think implying that you were into rap blogs would make you catch feelings
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
1) he has a narrative that's MUCH more interesting than "earnest rapper gets signed doesnt put out music than does". blogs and magazines create naratives around these guys and then they all just line up to the pump . asap's is way more rich
in all seriousness what does this mean
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JOC5St8GVkc/TZa81a9gqoI/AAAAAAAAAFM/4UkmBWpXY-w/s1600/6a00d8341c5fd253ef0120a66e5973970c-pi.png
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think he was overly buzzed based on "peso" & "purple swag" unless, again, we're talking of millions of dollars and whatever expectations come with it
this kinda thing happens to indie rockers ALL THE TIME, and as major labels have died, the playing field in rap has shifted more towards the model that indie rock has been on for years now. the only thing is that rappers are still expected to go major, so at some point things get thrown out of wack.
but having lots of 'industry buzz' after two mp3s is pretty standard practice
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, this same thing happened with sleigh bells or vampire wekeend or whatever and that's just how the machine goes -- the only difference is that RCA didn't go and give sleigh bells a three million dollar advance.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
It's all this girl's fault basicallyhttp://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqqx6bld5u1qamo7k.png
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link