rolling gun sounds thread

xxxp i can't get mad at one person for assuming somethign and then do the same thing in the same thread so sorry about assuming you have an LEP thing cuz of chicago

but the ASAP-type narrative is clearly resonating with the culture this year. he synthesizes many different inputs. his fashion looks like he just stepped out of a street style blog. this is what's hitting in post-kanye culture. and with OF and Weeknd taking off and then Drake basically co-opting the whole thing. that's mainstream now. so it's no wonder why he has more buzz because he's playing with the same set of clubs on the same course so to speak. he will be mainstream, buzz-makers saw him coming and got in line. for the clicks, of course

and the videos are stylish and involve drugs.

it's never really been about quality of music has it

what you think i rap for to drive a fucking rav 4

people upped and stopped caring about a lot of my favorite rappers of the past five years -- lil boosie, dro are the main ones -- and it took a long time, like a year or more, for that to really sink in. i'm not sure how long it's gonna be until that era comes back.

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 8:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but they didn't -- dro more or less stopped making quality music & Boosie went to jail.

it's not right, but it's okay
we're gonna make it anyway

but they didn't -- dro more or less stopped making quality music & Boosie went to jail.

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 10:01 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark

this isn't true

i mean both of those things did happen, but both happened after their careers as mainstream rappers were effectively over

no what happened is the culture moved on

exactly

fwiw I am really enjoying this ASAP tape

not that we're actually talking about the music or anything....

yes i am too

lol. i think half is boring. i really like the one "Keep it G"

yeah the beat on that one is crazy

getting a lot of Bone Thugs & Three Six vibez from this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61%2BM5P1%2B0vL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

this album, the album that was the first commercially released boosie album AFTER "wipe me down", that had commercial singles and was in best buys, that nobody cared about and nobody bought? this was before boosie went to jail.

young dro but out a dope street rap single LAST YEAR with gucci (when he was still kinda hot) AND t.i. and it didn't even move the needle a millimeter

anyway what's the sample on "trilla", that's my fav song

asap ferg is hilariously anachronistic

was kinda assuming that was gonna be the token girl of the crew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjpZ-ZTCP9o&feature=player_embedded

max b over the song of the year from prison

i wish there was video of him recording it

people ignoring Superbad was a fuckin shame cuz that shit goes hard

Lol at "the culture moved on" enjoy mac miller

the sample in the chorus of "Trilla" is from "They Want EFX", if that's what you meant

Boosie's career dying was about his legal trouble. He was never eating off of fader coverage

i think that's a utopian reading of the end of his career

some of those trill ent songs where the last pure, street rap singles from "the urban poor" that hit on a huge, pop level

boosie unfortunately couldn't ride that out

boosie's career also suffered from his label delaying his album forever and loading it up w/ fuckin lil phat verses on every other song and all of the biggest hits people identified w/ boosie being on albums by webbie and foxx, among other things

The clams tracks on this tape are hot garbage imo. And asap is still an average rapper. Trew might have charisma in person / wearing streetwear but the idea that hes the next boosie or dro because the "culture moved on" is total bs

xpost not to change subject but has anything besides that one single leaked from Savage Life 3?

Jordan.... Gucci? Waka? Ross? Meek mill? The idea that the health of an imprisoned rappers career is representative of the health of street rap broadly is bs

the 'street style blog' thing is pretty hilarious to me -- i guess the whole thing w/ him and danny brown and even odd future is largely about making potentially intimidating-looking rappers come off all quirky and cute and nonthreatening in a way that REALLY appeals to certain audiences

Also, this dude is constantly repping street rappers and talks about dealing so i'm not sure what your point even is

Jordan.... Gucci? Waka? Ross? Meek mill? The idea that the health of an imprisoned rappers career is representative of the health of street rap broadly is bs

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 10:24 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

- gucci was a perfect example... i mean certainly there are issues there with him too, but he didn't pop off nationally like everyone expected him to

- waka had two hits, but as you said yourself, ppl care more about 2 chainz now

- ross is a label creation who has very little basis in the kind of underground -> pop street rap narrative i'm talking about here

- meek mill, sure. it's not a hard and fast rule. there's still a niche for the meek mills, but it's much, much smaller and the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is much smaller.

waka had 4 sizable hits off one album! and this stupid new thing w/ drake is kinda blowing up!

i mean the list is pretty long

guys like rich boy and webbie and dro have HUGE HITS to their names, but neither of those guys could drop a commercial album and sell 10k copies

is it cuz their music is just so much worse than it was four years ago? or has the "culture moved on"

meek mill and 2 chainz are kind of my two defaults right now for thank god there are some 'relevant' rappers i don't find completely embarrassing on some fundamental level

xpost i always thought stuff like Webbie was kind of niche to begin with......

look i don't necessarily like this either

people upped and stopped caring about a lot of my favorite rappers of the past five years -- lil boosie, dro are the main ones -- and it took a long time, like a year or more, for that to really sink in. i'm not sure how long it's gonna be until that era comes back.

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 31, 2011 9:57 PM (28 minutes ago)

reading this made me sad

sit here and tell me that drake/kendrick lamar/asap rocky isn't the most relevant & sensible (& potentially powerful) rap tour this year outside of kanye & jay

xpost i always thought stuff like Webbie was kind of niche to begin with......

― Neanderthal, Monday, October 31, 2011 10:31 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

webbie, dro & rich boy all had top 10 hits! just huge singles. now if i got in my car and heard any of those guys on the radio i'd careen off the road.

that would be true of a drake/anybody tour right now in terms of ticket sales tbh (xpost)

i don't really mean ticket sales tho

i mean that tour is only like 6 colleges anyway, so it's not like some huge big thing. i mean i don't think execs would let him bring kendrick & asap out on a 25 city nationwide tour, but it's not a coincidence why drake asked those two artist to go play shows with him.

and yes i do think it's very indicative & important at least at this moment that he picked those two artists

xxpost I will admit that I got into Webbie long after the first (and even second) Savage Life came out, so my viewpoint on that may be skewed

it is interesting though how for years and years all these joe budden-type east coast cats were getting left behind in the changing times, and now the casualties of the changing times are people like rich boy and young dro that people were blaming for papoose getting benched or whatever. and it's not like it's karma or comeuppance or lack of 'staying power,' it's just all these demographic shifts constantly happening.

yeah i mean i don't want to get too david fincher here but we might be entering the age of "no demographics". the internet ethered everyone.

Asap rocky has zero fucking hits dude!

Asap rocky hasn't replaced anyone, and if he does it will be because of relentless media saturation. And waka is STILL more popular than odd future.

look i'm making no predictions about ASAP's career or whatever. i think the fact that he's gotten this far is evidence enough.

Artists like kendrick and jcole can push albums bcuz they've marketed themselves as "serious rap artists" but even jcoles one hit had a trey songz hook and could easily have been on a circa 2000 street rap artists album