rolling gun sounds thread

well to an extent yeah but i mean 'paper trail' grandfathered him into long term success i think w/o him having to try

xp to ship

It does have to do with promoting jordan. When gucci doesn't show up to a show at the congress-which btw odd future could never fill-- it will cause singles to stall

rap radio here is all softbatch all the time now. pretty sure "no hands" is the closest thing to a street rap song that's been in regular rotation all year. :/

I agree with als post but I think that has to do with blogs increasing influence - asap rocky is being pushed by a small group of people

Hes going on tour with big artists because drake is a fader-reading tastemaker, not because of demand for asap rocky tickets

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 10:52 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

you're missing my point. of course there's no "demand" for asap rocky tickets. drake doesn't need any openers. his tour could open up with a roundtable discussion featuring the editors of somanyshrimp and it would sell out in a day. think about the type of image and sound that asap & drake (and to a lesser extent in terms of fashion) kendrick have? does that not seem like a good signpost for where the genre is right now and what people by and large care about? drake picked ASAP bcuz they have a lot of things in common. this is also why ASAP is "popular". and why drake is hugely popular.

we had the local rap station on last night (which I have barely heard in the past) and I swear I heard 3 songs featuring Drake in under an hour. the hardest track played was one featuring Rick Ross and it was just a song he guested on

It does have to do with promoting jordan. When gucci doesn't show up to a show at the congress-which btw odd future could never fill-- it will cause singles to stall

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 10:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

gucci missing out on some shows is not the reason why he never had a bigger hit than "wasted", sorry. it's just not.

Yes, it is! Promotion is integral to musics success. Sorry it just is

we had the local rap station on last night (which I have barely heard in the past) and I swear I heard 3 songs featuring Drake in under an hour. the hardest track played was one featuring Rick Ross and it was just a song he guested on

― Neanderthal, Monday, October 31, 2011 10:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

3 drake songs in an hour is a pretty low number on most stations these days, dead serious.

thread feeling a lot like 2012 republican presidential nominee II: back into hell right now

Yes, it is! Promotion is integral to musics success. Sorry it just is

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 11:01 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

alright fine. i think you're looking at the wrong things, but whatever.

Drake is not predestined to choose asap rocky! There sound only goes together because it is going together, because drake made that choice. Youre acting like this is a natural thing but he could have as easily chosen anyone

and that crappy Big Sean "My Last" got play too xxxpost

yeah i imagine drake spinning the same 'blog buzz' wheel to pick out his tour lineup as ross did for his label roster

whatever -- i think a very obvious line can be drawn from drake to ASAP that can inform why the latter is "popular" now, also why the former is taking the latter on tour

yeah, based on my vague understanding of asap rocky from that one video and some press i don't really see any 'obvious line' between him and drake that you couldn't draw between a thousand other pairs of names

I was just in Memphis and heard Webbie "What's Happenin'" about a half dozen times on the radio over the course of the weekend.

I did not hear any ASAP Rocky.

and that, folks, is why yo gotti is a major pop star

"what's happenin" bangs but it's weird to me that webbie ever had a career, did the world really need someone who sounds like birdman if he couldn't rap on beat

yeah, based on my vague understanding of asap rocky from that one video and some press i don't really see any 'obvious line' between him and drake that you couldn't draw between a thousand other pairs of names

― some dude, Monday, October 31, 2011 11:10 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

well whatever -- you yourself called drake some kind of sea change, and i'd agree. and i think there's a lot of sonic similarities b/w drake's new stuff, the darkness and drugginess of a lot of it and a$ap's stuff. i think their images, in terms of fashion, intersect a lot, altho a$ap def attempts to have more of a street edge to him.

Webbie is a good rapper thats crazy.

The funny thing is that asap rocky s entire aesthetic is totally street rap influences

i wish surfboards was still around backing me up

lol @ you buying the whole 'new edgy drake' thing -- whatever extent his new shit is DARK and DRUGGY isn't really any more than his old shit. i mean for better or worse his aesthetic hasn't changed or evolved one bit in the last two and a half years.

The funny thing is that asap rocky s entire aesthetic is totally street rap influences

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 11:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well sure, i mean he is from HARLEM after all

i'm being mean about webbie, he's not that bad, but he really really cannot stay on beat for two bars straight ever

really you don't detect any difference b/w stuff like "marvin's room" and "i'm on one" vs "forever" and "over" and "miss me" and "fancy"

"marvin's room" doesn't seem that different from "successful" or whatever, nah. he was talking about syrup on his earlier shit too. this is a bunch of 'omg he stopped shaving' bullshit.

drake occasionally cursing and acting debauched is like his version of coldplay being vaguely weird and arty -- they just feel so guilty about being THAT successful just being their dorky selves that they make these perfunctory gestures towards being something else that nobody actually wants them to be or cares if they really are or not

...before he goes back to dropping gems like "I love your ass like Milhouse love Lisa/I love your ass like Ninja Turtles love pizza"

I'm confused about jordans argument that rick "big meech" ross is not street rap. Is it because he was a co?

http://makeagif.com/media/8-15-2011/6Q1ueS.gif

j0rdan said "ross is a label creation who has very little basis in the kind of underground -> pop street rap narrative i'm talking about here," which makes perfect sense and isn't really what you're saying he said

i mean obviously it makes sense to mention him in the same breath as the people you mentioned him alongside, but he's also the only one for whom mixtapes account for pretty much 0% of his success

"label creation" is unfair, bcuz a lot of it is ross' own creation. but gtfo here if you're gonna try and sit here and compare wayne & drake's bff w/ concentration camp boosie.

ASAP Nast is dope

Lol waynes rise was much closer to boosies though

well sure but that was a decade and a half ago -- i'm talking about jonas brother weezy

"this is probably more for the dynamic compression thread but i think the reason I prefer the Gibbs to either the ASAP or LEP albums is because its just such a better-engineered record than either"

Yeah definitely, having said that, Burn One really knows how to produce a track, his craft/sound is so pure, everything he produces is perfectly crisp. Just listening to Peso (Burn One) followed by Bass (Clams) and its so easy to hear the difference in clarity.

If you don't like this, you have no value in life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXl8dq5bl2k

otm.

also peso isn't burn one, burn one did do my fav track at the end of the tape tho (the 2nd one he does on the tracklist i forget which)

i really like some of the clams casino production on liveloveasap, its a better context for his stuff than most of his other collaborations, or even solo material.

is it okay if i don't want to listen to dom kennedy

i actually disagree w/ flopson... the clams sound is so branded now, ASAP's stuff w/o him is much more distinctive

wassup is one of my favourites on the tape

Ha, oh. Yeah his 2 on there are standouts I think. Clams has clipping all over his bass, maybe on purpose but I don't feel like the overall aesthetic of his beats match the sound of his beats. I just think if you're gonna go all ott melodramatic with it, then it should sound prestine.

"is it okay if i don't want to listen to dom kennedy"

Doesn't really matter who raps on that beat tbf.

i actually disagree w/ flopson... the clams sound is so branded now, ASAP's stuff w/o him is much more distinctive

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:10 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

agree completely

asap as a rapper has obvious weaknesses. i find his performance amateurish in some regards; the timbre of his voice is rougher than the smooth pop rap cuts but not quite hard enough when he really spits, neither is his delivery. i felt similarly about mellowype last year. regardless, my favourite moments are the slowest, with airy production. also not sure if he's always perfectly on beat, he sounds a bit sloppy. some of the flows are real strong, i think it's relatively obvious that he has potential

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfGk2b_cMU

i prefer cardo's fake clams here to any clams on the asap

so PRG'z and Jim Jones dropped records today too