rolling gun sounds thread

yeah, based on my vague understanding of asap rocky from that one video and some press i don't really see any 'obvious line' between him and drake that you couldn't draw between a thousand other pairs of names

― some dude, Monday, October 31, 2011 11:10 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

well whatever -- you yourself called drake some kind of sea change, and i'd agree. and i think there's a lot of sonic similarities b/w drake's new stuff, the darkness and drugginess of a lot of it and a$ap's stuff. i think their images, in terms of fashion, intersect a lot, altho a$ap def attempts to have more of a street edge to him.

Webbie is a good rapper thats crazy.

The funny thing is that asap rocky s entire aesthetic is totally street rap influences

i wish surfboards was still around backing me up

lol @ you buying the whole 'new edgy drake' thing -- whatever extent his new shit is DARK and DRUGGY isn't really any more than his old shit. i mean for better or worse his aesthetic hasn't changed or evolved one bit in the last two and a half years.

The funny thing is that asap rocky s entire aesthetic is totally street rap influences

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Monday, October 31, 2011 11:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well sure, i mean he is from HARLEM after all

i'm being mean about webbie, he's not that bad, but he really really cannot stay on beat for two bars straight ever

really you don't detect any difference b/w stuff like "marvin's room" and "i'm on one" vs "forever" and "over" and "miss me" and "fancy"

"marvin's room" doesn't seem that different from "successful" or whatever, nah. he was talking about syrup on his earlier shit too. this is a bunch of 'omg he stopped shaving' bullshit.

drake occasionally cursing and acting debauched is like his version of coldplay being vaguely weird and arty -- they just feel so guilty about being THAT successful just being their dorky selves that they make these perfunctory gestures towards being something else that nobody actually wants them to be or cares if they really are or not

...before he goes back to dropping gems like "I love your ass like Milhouse love Lisa/I love your ass like Ninja Turtles love pizza"

I'm confused about jordans argument that rick "big meech" ross is not street rap. Is it because he was a co?

http://makeagif.com/media/8-15-2011/6Q1ueS.gif

j0rdan said "ross is a label creation who has very little basis in the kind of underground -> pop street rap narrative i'm talking about here," which makes perfect sense and isn't really what you're saying he said

i mean obviously it makes sense to mention him in the same breath as the people you mentioned him alongside, but he's also the only one for whom mixtapes account for pretty much 0% of his success

"label creation" is unfair, bcuz a lot of it is ross' own creation. but gtfo here if you're gonna try and sit here and compare wayne & drake's bff w/ concentration camp boosie.

ASAP Nast is dope

Lol waynes rise was much closer to boosies though

well sure but that was a decade and a half ago -- i'm talking about jonas brother weezy

"this is probably more for the dynamic compression thread but i think the reason I prefer the Gibbs to either the ASAP or LEP albums is because its just such a better-engineered record than either"

Yeah definitely, having said that, Burn One really knows how to produce a track, his craft/sound is so pure, everything he produces is perfectly crisp. Just listening to Peso (Burn One) followed by Bass (Clams) and its so easy to hear the difference in clarity.

If you don't like this, you have no value in life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXl8dq5bl2k

otm.

also peso isn't burn one, burn one did do my fav track at the end of the tape tho (the 2nd one he does on the tracklist i forget which)

i really like some of the clams casino production on liveloveasap, its a better context for his stuff than most of his other collaborations, or even solo material.

is it okay if i don't want to listen to dom kennedy

i actually disagree w/ flopson... the clams sound is so branded now, ASAP's stuff w/o him is much more distinctive

wassup is one of my favourites on the tape

Ha, oh. Yeah his 2 on there are standouts I think. Clams has clipping all over his bass, maybe on purpose but I don't feel like the overall aesthetic of his beats match the sound of his beats. I just think if you're gonna go all ott melodramatic with it, then it should sound prestine.

"is it okay if i don't want to listen to dom kennedy"

Doesn't really matter who raps on that beat tbf.

i actually disagree w/ flopson... the clams sound is so branded now, ASAP's stuff w/o him is much more distinctive

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:10 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

agree completely

asap as a rapper has obvious weaknesses. i find his performance amateurish in some regards; the timbre of his voice is rougher than the smooth pop rap cuts but not quite hard enough when he really spits, neither is his delivery. i felt similarly about mellowype last year. regardless, my favourite moments are the slowest, with airy production. also not sure if he's always perfectly on beat, he sounds a bit sloppy. some of the flows are real strong, i think it's relatively obvious that he has potential

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfGk2b_cMU

i prefer cardo's fake clams here to any clams on the asap

so PRG'z and Jim Jones dropped records today too

Lol was just checking those.

Too much music, must sleep.

Tons of Sen City spots on that Jim Jones tape

This album cover is unreal
http://prgz.bandcamp.com/album/born-2-ball

The Gibbs, Asap and LEP have pretty cool art. ASAP is totally Stankonia lite though.

one of the things that really stands out to me abt the peso video is that at one pt hes clearly rocking the mid 90s master p look with the glasses & at another point he & his dudes are obviously referencing cash money w/ the shirtless + black headscarf look. as a rap nerd this is what made them seem fresh, they're reviving a look before anyone else really has

more fashion than music there obv

http://rapradar.com/

also want to point out that on rapradar, which is the main hip hop rap blog anyone follows these days (RIP nahright) asap isnt even in the top 5 most popular posts, losing to (somehow) Fat Joe, as well as Gibbs and LEP -- not sure if thats because his was posted latest or by what degree, but i'm saying

not that he couldnt end up being the most popular once the buzz builds beyond fader-land, but this stuff is just not as big as it seems in our twitterverse yet

well the biggest rapper in the rap radarsphere is joe budden, so i wouldn't put much stock in it

gibbs cold day track is fucking dope

also want to point out that on rapradar, which is the main hip hop rap blog anyone follows these days (RIP nahright) asap isnt even in the top 5 most popular posts,

i also want to point out how contradictory this is to your original claim that ASAP has the most buzz

clearly buzz is not the same as popularity.

im talking about how he has the most buzz w/in our twittersphere obv there are circles where no one knows who tf he is

rapradar ppl might have ignored that post but i'm sure YN was queued up to download asap like everyone else

i think you could quite easily make the argument that asap rocky being less popular on rap radar than fat joe, freddie gibbs, young chris and jim jones says more about rap radar than it says about asap raocky

i think it says more about rap fans while my twitterverse being largely magazine editors & bloggers says a lot more about them

magazine editors & bloggers aren't rap fans, i guess

the point "hey look guys not EVERYONE cares about asap rocky!" is a pretty basic & meaningless one and one that privileges the type of rap you listen to & the type of listeners you find authentic, just like i could c/p any number of blogs and websites that aren't covering fat joe's the darkside vol 11 and go "huh, no fat joe here. isn't that something."

i heard a remix this morning by somebody named "murda" called "warning"

it had mariah on it

i liked it at the time

the point "hey look guys not EVERYONE cares about asap rocky!" is a pretty basic & meaningless one and one that privileges the type of rap you listen to & the type of listeners you find authentic, just like i could c/p any number of blogs and websites that aren't covering fat joe's the darkside vol 11 and go "huh, no fat joe here. isn't that something."

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:03 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no, its about observing the privilege of the tastemakers & people who decide what the stories are going to be for the next XYZ months, how these things are DECIDED UPON by a small group rather than coming from the ground up, the small networking game that makes it possible that we even hear about these artists

i dont fucking privilege the opinions of rapradar's joe budden fans, but that doesnt mean i think asap rocky's fans in the magazine editing world are any better.

magazine editors & bloggers aren't rap fans, i guess

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:01 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is a willful misreading