rolling gun sounds thread

dude has a couple of songs & a spotty mixtape & you're really like BUT SAIGON

saigon actually has more than a couple dope songs too. his career didnt pan out for other reasons & he was never a media darling but that doesnt make him a less talented artist like you're implying

and so far neither is asap

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 4:10 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is true, but now we can circle back to why ASAP is hyped

the same weird arbitrary marketing voodoo reasons houston was, then. im not sure we've learned anything here today lol

flopson's "i wish something was just v popular & we all liked it" misunderstands that lil wayne / t.i. etc were all regional obscurities at one point, to have a sustained career in this industry afaik thats the only way to really do it

the same weird arbitrary marketing voodoo reasons houston was, then. im not sure we've learned anything here today lol

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 4:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

*shrug* i don't think it's really all that similar to houston at all but i'm pretty much done w/ trying to spell this out

It's all this girl's fault basically
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqqx6bld5u1qamo7k.png

― Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011

based on the current wave in rap i think the real trick is to have a white girl dropping nbombs in your videos

btw i was watching video from his "mixtape listening party" or w/e and i'm pretty sure ryan leslie was in there

and Mos Def, inevitably

mos def is like the aston kutcher of rap minus the part where he makes money

no idea what that means but i like it

anyone check this 2 Chainz. "Stunt" w/ Meek Mill has a CRAZY beat

hmm my announcement of a new jedi mind tricks album did not cause the excitement i had hoped :|

Mos Def doesn't make money?

in fact, the entire premise of that post is bogus.

pretty sure this is my new favorite sentence in the history of ilx

lol
i actually want to check that out mostly bcuz it has an outsidaz cameo

unclear on how a non-stoupe jedi mind tricks album will be

xxp spent it all on towels
/d. adams nerd

that was an xp to m@tt

kreay's verse on this 2 chainz sounds like when rappers have their 8 yr old daughter spit on a record

Mos Def doesn't make money?

― clear as mud (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 5:48 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was making a comparison b/w aston kutcher the tech investor and mos def hanging around and big upping these renegade start up rappers (feel free to ban me btw) except mos def doesn't monetarily invest in odd future or asap rocky and as such does not make money off them

mmmmmm that makes more sense

flopson's "i wish something was just v popular & we all liked it" misunderstands that lil wayne / t.i. etc were all regional obscurities at one point, to have a sustained career in this industry afaik thats the only way to really do it

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:21 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not so sure that was my point; i think it's important to follow regional obscurities who release great music & consider it a hobby of mine. despite the weaknesses i outlined in my post upthread i think asap rocky's aesthetic (both fashion/image & the brand of production he's equally defined by) and strong hooks puts him above dudes like meek mill, 2 chainz ito pop appeal. they are better rappers in many ways and i'm looking forward to their future output, esp 2 chainz, but besides maybe a strong single it's hard to see them having vastly diffrent trajectories than street rappers we've seen slide out of relevance the past few years (gucci, jeezy). i mean i happen to like the asap tape a lot but my argument is more about "if i had 3 million dollars but had to invest it in rap music"

if asap rocky has a career even a fraction as strong as gucci or jeezy's he'll be lucky. i still dont get the comparison. Jeezy was on top for a long time, and unlike Wayne and T.I. never aimed for the straight pop maneuver; and Gucci ethered his own career when he was still ascendant. I don't think there's anything limiting Meek Mill (who I think is better than 2 Chainz) from crossing over.

i dont see how clams casino production & looking like dj quik dressed up as percy miller is a fashion/image run to 'pop appeal.' Its tailor-made for a certain hip niche appeal, and that niche appeal happens to be hot with certain pop stars like Drake, but Weeknd isn't storming the charts either.

i dont even hear 'strong hooks.' purple swag is like a poor man's 'still tippin.'

how many hooks on this record are just a down-pitched voice reciting rap lyrics anyway

(i do think 'peso' has a great hook)

at what point was gucci's career ethered...? ice cream cone tattoo? wacka album?

just curious, I've never really been into him

one of the eight trips he made to prison in the middle of when he was supposed to be promoting an album. also possibly when he no-showed at concerts, or radio interviews, or any of the many probably-substance-related AWOL situations

(eight is a small exaggeration)

jewelry selection is the last great tape

i like the hook on kissin pink (lol) a lot

i'm with deej here, nobody knows what the fuck an asap rocky is, except nerds like us.

i don't think anyone is really debating that. he's also been in the public consciousness for like 3 months, it's not a huge indictment on him

i don't think ilx can stand for anyone but forks using "wacka". he's, like, the full quotient of representation whereby we do not simply die of embarrassment but soldier on.

lol

That Kreayshawn feature is kinda embarrassing. I think she was born to make GG and nothing more.

guess this is on the dj drama album? it's also on the pusha t album. anyway, french montana's hook on this is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv034lv0OPk

Does Asap have a ground-level following in NY?

how could he? until 2 mo. ago he had 2 songs

I don't see how that precludes anything.

kreay sounds bad on this, yeah -- beat doesn't work for her

And I'm more interested in hearing someone from NY answer that than someone from elsewhere project his assumptions onto them. xp

no disrespect to the NY-based posters but i kinda doubt anyone here can speak of 'ground-level following' there vs. media bubble hype

Rev I dunno my understanding of what a ground level phenomenon would be involves months of legwork, doing shows, releasing tapes that build buzz... Whats yours

hi, i really like the 2 chainz album

I was at the show at alife when he opened for Danny brown, before XXX came Out and before ASAP had any press. It was packed.

I was also at the santos show that he headlined. Also packed. Don't remember how much press he had at this point.

He played during some juicy j thing one day I didn't go but supposedly he we t over really well.

I have nothing to do with the "hype cycle" or whatever the fuck. Do with this info whatever you may. such an NYC complex around here it's glaring. Why does a rapper get your goat

i do remember reading reports that the crowd went nuts when they brought him out at the dipset reunion, but that's is entirely shocking either

anybody heard the Pusha T ep yet? has it leaked?

surfboards, member of the grassroots / hip-hop 'losing my edge'

'before asap had any press'

that must have been a crazy 5 minutes

lol