mos def is like the aston kutcher of rap minus the part where he makes money
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
no idea what that means but i like it
― google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
anyone check this 2 Chainz. "Stunt" w/ Meek Mill has a CRAZY beat
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
hmm my announcement of a new jedi mind tricks album did not cause the excitement i had hoped :|
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
Mos Def doesn't make money?
― clear as mud (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
in fact, the entire premise of that post is bogus.
pretty sure this is my new favorite sentence in the history of ilx
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
loli actually want to check that out mostly bcuz it has an outsidaz cameo
unclear on how a non-stoupe jedi mind tricks album will be
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
xxp spent it all on towels/d. adams nerd
― google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
that was an xp to m@tt
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
kreay's verse on this 2 chainz sounds like when rappers have their 8 yr old daughter spit on a record
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
― clear as mud (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 5:48 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
i was making a comparison b/w aston kutcher the tech investor and mos def hanging around and big upping these renegade start up rappers (feel free to ban me btw) except mos def doesn't monetarily invest in odd future or asap rocky and as such does not make money off them
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
mmmmmm that makes more sense
― google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
flopson's "i wish something was just v popular & we all liked it" misunderstands that lil wayne / t.i. etc were all regional obscurities at one point, to have a sustained career in this industry afaik thats the only way to really do it
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:21 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
not so sure that was my point; i think it's important to follow regional obscurities who release great music & consider it a hobby of mine. despite the weaknesses i outlined in my post upthread i think asap rocky's aesthetic (both fashion/image & the brand of production he's equally defined by) and strong hooks puts him above dudes like meek mill, 2 chainz ito pop appeal. they are better rappers in many ways and i'm looking forward to their future output, esp 2 chainz, but besides maybe a strong single it's hard to see them having vastly diffrent trajectories than street rappers we've seen slide out of relevance the past few years (gucci, jeezy). i mean i happen to like the asap tape a lot but my argument is more about "if i had 3 million dollars but had to invest it in rap music"
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
if asap rocky has a career even a fraction as strong as gucci or jeezy's he'll be lucky. i still dont get the comparison. Jeezy was on top for a long time, and unlike Wayne and T.I. never aimed for the straight pop maneuver; and Gucci ethered his own career when he was still ascendant. I don't think there's anything limiting Meek Mill (who I think is better than 2 Chainz) from crossing over.
i dont see how clams casino production & looking like dj quik dressed up as percy miller is a fashion/image run to 'pop appeal.' Its tailor-made for a certain hip niche appeal, and that niche appeal happens to be hot with certain pop stars like Drake, but Weeknd isn't storming the charts either.
i dont even hear 'strong hooks.' purple swag is like a poor man's 'still tippin.'
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
how many hooks on this record are just a down-pitched voice reciting rap lyrics anyway
(i do think 'peso' has a great hook)
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
at what point was gucci's career ethered...? ice cream cone tattoo? wacka album?
― clear as mud (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
just curious, I've never really been into him
one of the eight trips he made to prison in the middle of when he was supposed to be promoting an album. also possibly when he no-showed at concerts, or radio interviews, or any of the many probably-substance-related AWOL situations
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
(eight is a small exaggeration)
jewelry selection is the last great tape
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
i like the hook on kissin pink (lol) a lot
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
i'm with deej here, nobody knows what the fuck an asap rocky is, except nerds like us.
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think anyone is really debating that. he's also been in the public consciousness for like 3 months, it's not a huge indictment on him
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think ilx can stand for anyone but forks using "wacka". he's, like, the full quotient of representation whereby we do not simply die of embarrassment but soldier on.
― zvookster, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
That Kreayshawn feature is kinda embarrassing. I think she was born to make GG and nothing more.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
guess this is on the dj drama album? it's also on the pusha t album. anyway, french montana's hook on this is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv034lv0OPk
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
Does Asap have a ground-level following in NY?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
how could he? until 2 mo. ago he had 2 songs
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see how that precludes anything.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
kreay sounds bad on this, yeah -- beat doesn't work for her
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
And I'm more interested in hearing someone from NY answer that than someone from elsewhere project his assumptions onto them. xp
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
no disrespect to the NY-based posters but i kinda doubt anyone here can speak of 'ground-level following' there vs. media bubble hype
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
Rev I dunno my understanding of what a ground level phenomenon would be involves months of legwork, doing shows, releasing tapes that build buzz... Whats yours
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
hi, i really like the 2 chainz album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
I was at the show at alife when he opened for Danny brown, before XXX came Out and before ASAP had any press. It was packed.
I was also at the santos show that he headlined. Also packed. Don't remember how much press he had at this point.
He played during some juicy j thing one day I didn't go but supposedly he we t over really well.
I have nothing to do with the "hype cycle" or whatever the fuck. Do with this info whatever you may. such an NYC complex around here it's glaring. Why does a rapper get your goat
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
i do remember reading reports that the crowd went nuts when they brought him out at the dipset reunion, but that's is entirely shocking either
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
anybody heard the Pusha T ep yet? has it leaked?
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
surfboards, member of the grassroots / hip-hop 'losing my edge'
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
'before asap had any press'
that must have been a crazy 5 minutes
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think most of the Pusha EP is out there in one form or another
― Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
i think every song is out there except the opener w/ diddy which isn't v good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
also every idea he's ever had has been out there since 2002
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
that too
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
i dont know that i 'get' his solo career.
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
well he barely has one
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
some pretty massive guests considering that
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
have we talked about how good 'stunt' is off the 2 Chainz