still think the closest comparison is odd future but w/e
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
I acted like ppl should stop bending over backwards to talk about how unskilled she was and pretending that "gucci gucci" was some kind of thing being "forced" on us when it ws rlly quite immediate
Asap has never had the same groundswell of support, now he will be that artist that even indie rock critics are voting for at year end time
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
Odd future were the new clipse except they found a big skater audience so they'll be ok after the critics forget about them as a hype cycle phenomenon, while kanye had to rescue pusha t
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile how many of you check for can ox material? No? Before your time?
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda doubt there's a larger % of skater kids in odd future's fanbase than in a lot of other young rap acts, that's more their image than their audience
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
new pusha sucks btw
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i disagree!
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
pretty good article on lex luger
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/lex-luger-hip-hop-beat-maker.html?_r=1&ref=music
sorry didn't see the waka thread
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's a good argument to be made that the pusha album is the best major label rap album released this year
of course there's almost literally zero competition, but still
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
i'd take watch the throne and even gucci & waka over this.
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
i forgot about WTT. pusha is better than gucci/waka
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
gucci/waka was p boring imo
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
i liked neither WTT nor gucci/waka
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
pusha is pretty boring imo -- not bad but it is such a "major label rap record" in like every way
many of the beats are just aite
i think gucci/waka is a bit dull but will seem better once we've moved away from that sound
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
pusha t record is like the 2011 equiv of slim thug's 'already platinum' but w/out '3 kings'
im rlly curious Al, since u brought up the asap thing again, if u are really feeling this track http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12731-palace/
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
what most ppl in the industry are wondering isnt if hes odd future or kreay but if he's the next Drake, btw
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://thefsd.tumblr.com/post/2544944924/me-i-run-the-streets-bananas-chicagorilla
dope
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
(thats old btw)
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
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i'm confused, did you get the idea somewhere that i LIKE asap rocky's music and was defending it?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
were you feeling gucci gucci? i mean when it comes down to it, the real truth of the matter is just that 'gucci gucci' is dope & most of asap's stuff is not
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
imo
"gucci gucci" is a better song than "peso" sure, i agree w/ that. i have no idea what point you're trying to make or what you're trying to get me to 'admit' though. again, did you get the impression i was sticking up for rocky?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
no, but it seemed like u were trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy or w/e in my perspective but it really is as simple as that
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
not hypocrisy, just tedious inability to understand anything beyond the worldview you've set up around your own tastes and agendas
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
idg what puts you above the same thing? or anyone on this board? arent we always expressing these kinds of things? wtf is your point?
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno it just seems like any parallel i drew between those two artists gets instantly knocked down by the objective truth of "but she's GOOD and he's NOT"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
instantly? i didnt even mention that until the most recent post; i already made arguments abt audience, style, and relationship w/ media/critics prior to even bringing up quality, which happens to be an aspect u agree w/ me about, mr. nitpicker
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
well i think her song is mildly more listenable/quotable than his, i'm not all SONG OF THE YEAR or w/e
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
al you're just being a dick right now
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
sorry dudes, i just didn't understand why deej was all "review this asap rocky song for me it's important"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
i don't actually think you're being a dick, i was just making a callback to the juiceman thread
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
lmao
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw he is being a dick & no one asked him for a 'review'
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
i really do actually want to know Al's opinion on this artist & his trajectory & etc., do u think hes the next drake etc., but he'd rather try to clown & nitpick at unimportant bullshit or malign me or my motives or opinions so
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
you know asking me to listen to listen to a track posted on gun sounds and offer an immediate opinion of it is a lost cause, man, i don't do that shit
but ok i've got it on -- this is better than "peso" but i dunno maybe years of hearing hundreds of local mixtapes just makes me realize how dime-a-dozen cats like this are. are people REALLY looking at him as having a Drake-type career? that makes zero sense to me, on any level.
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
i actually prefer peso but i think something about clams casino beats began and ended with the first few lil b tracks i heard him do
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
well i don't listen to lil meme so i'm not real familiar with this guy's sound
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
^channeling dr morbius
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
Young Buck rips another guest spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQlNINPB8k0
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
i like the clams casino beats on that asap rocky tape - don't see how it's more 'branded' than most other producers of the moment. now the rapping on the other hand...
i checked for the new 2 chainz too and found it embarrassingly bad mostly.
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJSRH7fNFY
this is an amazing track tho
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah the 2 chainz isnt touching trapaveli 2 or codeine cowboy
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
weird i loved a lot of stuff on new 2 chainz, frustratingly the most heinous lyrics are in the first half but on otherwise hot songs & there was some really good stuff on the second half (addicted to rubberbands thru the jadakiss feature is a good run). i really like his personality, sleazy sense of humour & his verses are solid for the most part
― flopson, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
gonna give it another go - not sure i made it to the 2nd half
"griming..............see that's when you mix grinding...and timing together"
groan
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
grindming
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwYiVcpJZQg
what do you guys think of tha joker? his flow here has a bit of that swishahouse thing riff raff bites, this youtube has like 6 mil views & it was recorded when he was 17 (ca 2009) so we can talk about how amazing it is that he's just a kid a la odd future, lol
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
his latest tape just dropped & imo this one is p dopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKmTmsc4dU
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link