i liked neither WTT nor gucci/waka
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
pusha is pretty boring imo -- not bad but it is such a "major label rap record" in like every way
many of the beats are just aite
i think gucci/waka is a bit dull but will seem better once we've moved away from that sound
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
pusha t record is like the 2011 equiv of slim thug's 'already platinum' but w/out '3 kings'
im rlly curious Al, since u brought up the asap thing again, if u are really feeling this track http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12731-palace/
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
what most ppl in the industry are wondering isnt if hes odd future or kreay but if he's the next Drake, btw
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://thefsd.tumblr.com/post/2544944924/me-i-run-the-streets-bananas-chicagorilla
dope
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
(thats old btw)
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, November 5, 2011 5:02 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
i'm confused, did you get the idea somewhere that i LIKE asap rocky's music and was defending it?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
were you feeling gucci gucci? i mean when it comes down to it, the real truth of the matter is just that 'gucci gucci' is dope & most of asap's stuff is not
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
imo
"gucci gucci" is a better song than "peso" sure, i agree w/ that. i have no idea what point you're trying to make or what you're trying to get me to 'admit' though. again, did you get the impression i was sticking up for rocky?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
no, but it seemed like u were trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy or w/e in my perspective but it really is as simple as that
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
not hypocrisy, just tedious inability to understand anything beyond the worldview you've set up around your own tastes and agendas
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
idg what puts you above the same thing? or anyone on this board? arent we always expressing these kinds of things? wtf is your point?
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno it just seems like any parallel i drew between those two artists gets instantly knocked down by the objective truth of "but she's GOOD and he's NOT"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
instantly? i didnt even mention that until the most recent post; i already made arguments abt audience, style, and relationship w/ media/critics prior to even bringing up quality, which happens to be an aspect u agree w/ me about, mr. nitpicker
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
well i think her song is mildly more listenable/quotable than his, i'm not all SONG OF THE YEAR or w/e
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
al you're just being a dick right now
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
sorry dudes, i just didn't understand why deej was all "review this asap rocky song for me it's important"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
i don't actually think you're being a dick, i was just making a callback to the juiceman thread
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
lmao
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw he is being a dick & no one asked him for a 'review'
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
i really do actually want to know Al's opinion on this artist & his trajectory & etc., do u think hes the next drake etc., but he'd rather try to clown & nitpick at unimportant bullshit or malign me or my motives or opinions so
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
you know asking me to listen to listen to a track posted on gun sounds and offer an immediate opinion of it is a lost cause, man, i don't do that shit
but ok i've got it on -- this is better than "peso" but i dunno maybe years of hearing hundreds of local mixtapes just makes me realize how dime-a-dozen cats like this are. are people REALLY looking at him as having a Drake-type career? that makes zero sense to me, on any level.
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
i actually prefer peso but i think something about clams casino beats began and ended with the first few lil b tracks i heard him do
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
well i don't listen to lil meme so i'm not real familiar with this guy's sound
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
^channeling dr morbius
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
Young Buck rips another guest spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQlNINPB8k0
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
i like the clams casino beats on that asap rocky tape - don't see how it's more 'branded' than most other producers of the moment. now the rapping on the other hand...
i checked for the new 2 chainz too and found it embarrassingly bad mostly.
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJSRH7fNFY
this is an amazing track tho
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah the 2 chainz isnt touching trapaveli 2 or codeine cowboy
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
weird i loved a lot of stuff on new 2 chainz, frustratingly the most heinous lyrics are in the first half but on otherwise hot songs & there was some really good stuff on the second half (addicted to rubberbands thru the jadakiss feature is a good run). i really like his personality, sleazy sense of humour & his verses are solid for the most part
― flopson, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
gonna give it another go - not sure i made it to the 2nd half
"griming..............see that's when you mix grinding...and timing together"
groan
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
grindming
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwYiVcpJZQg
what do you guys think of tha joker? his flow here has a bit of that swishahouse thing riff raff bites, this youtube has like 6 mil views & it was recorded when he was 17 (ca 2009) so we can talk about how amazing it is that he's just a kid a la odd future, lol
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
his latest tape just dropped & imo this one is p dopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKmTmsc4dU
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7VUFIUXAc
this is 'blow stacks' another jam off his record
too many luger/fake luger beats on it but there are some jamsi think j0 would probably like a fair amount of this, its p fruit swagged out in parts, R&B choruses & etc.
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
i fear he might have 2 chainz disease where half of what he says is clever and half of what he says is 'clever'
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
his video for the song 'pot head' has a comment about voting for ron paul that has 112 thumbs ups o_O
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, this guy aint the next asap rocky or anything but he has some pleasant fruity swag throwbacks
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:08 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is pretty much every punchline rapper ever, isn't it?
― some dude, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
ha yeah
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
can you draw a plain distinction between these two or does this mean "clever no-quotes is when I like it, cleve with quotes is when it bugs me"
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
c'mon man saying 'clever' or 'smart' or something in quotes clearly means not really or not as clever as they think it is, that's not that hard to figure out
― some dude, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
it's up to you to decide whether i'm being helpful or 'helpful' here
'clever' in quotes = "window pain"
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
ok fair enuf
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
this isn't accurate tho - the quotes imply that somebody thinks it; even Eminem knows "window pain" is chump change
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
so wild that fruity swag is already considered throwback
― flopson, Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
ha well i dont think it really is i just mean in terms of ilx interest. its not like when we ignored roscoe dash he wasnt carrying the torch. or stuey rock or whoever
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link