Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

doing realist-ish melee combat is probably best done w/ a locked 3rd kind of POV like gears of war. you need to be able to be aware of what the whole body of your character is doing, especially if there's a defense mechanic

plus peripheral vision, yeah

plus half the fun of rpgs is cool gear, why not see it?

Don't attack when he is black.

cosign this tho

hahahaaaa

I was reading lorax's post above on zing and there were multiple paragraphs before I saw who wrote it but I instantly knew it was lorax <3

Roberto Spiralli otm. strip everything away from a first person shooter, and it is chasing an object with a reticle and clicking the mouse button furiously when they overlap. But at least in a shooter you get to enjoy the illusion of the projectile going toward the target, leading the target based on the speed of the projectile, etc. With melee you don't even get to see much of your character's body moving, and there's no sense of depth or physics. So it's like some guy who has no depth perception fighting with a cardboard box on his head. The real thing that kills me about FPS games is how much it limits your movement. I want to play a multiplayer map with a Just Cause, Prototype, or InFamous type game.

Grand theft auto 4 multiplayer is this^

I haven't actually tried that. No word of mouth of it being fun from any of my friends, either. Any good?

the gametypes were p uninvolving and hence nobody plays it iirc

would love a city-wide capture the flag mode for Just Cause 2

The idea of a never ending adventure sandbox is simultaneously enthralling and terrifying.

I have a friend who says he wants to be put on life support and play Skyrim forever

ok
for no reason at all i feel like i might justify buying this tomorrow. despite not liking oblivion at all.
hmmm

i'm in the oblivion-sucked camp but the something awful people (who are the whiniest bitchiest gamers on the internet) seem to be having a good time. my pre-order should arrive before i get home from work tonight.

i think arena, the first elder scrolls game, could be remade into something awesome. as i remember one could wander across the entire continent of tamriel. the landscape and most towns and settlements were randomly generated and really repetitive but the vastness was fucking nuts, especially in 1994. a remake with decent graphics and 21st century complexity, like a minecraft that doesn't look like a bag of assholes mixed with all this procedural quest-generation stuff mixed with the fact that arena was SUPER FUCKING HARD, would be killer. i was 13 with all the hyperfocus a 13 year old can bring to a video game and i often got killed during the quasi-tutorial dungeon. shit was real.

and by oblivion sucked i mean i still put like 100 hours into it.

took the day off and will be running down the stairs at regular intervals to see if the game is amazonged to my front door yet

last exercise for a while i assume

would answer that zing but am out of breath

i think arena, the first elder scrolls game, could be remade into something awesome

remake daggerfall imho. same scope but such a better game and story.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/11/in-skyrim-bucket-head-the-perfect-crime.aspx

LOL

perusing wikia, the character system looks... intersting

no attributes? perks?

buckets on heads was indeed the dumbest/best thing I've seen today

the design of this seems kinda modern fallouty, which is part of why my interest is growing quickly

hahaha buckethead!

pc version is crashing occasionally on looting gold. still pretty fun though. plays like a more polished version of oblivion.

my thief is named 'shank badu'.

I can see your crashes on Steam.

ditto

Just bought this! Also my first elder scrolls game.

Wondering whether I should install this to my xbox to reduce load times. Have you guys heard anything wrt that?

rumours of textures not displaying properly when installed on 360 - don't know for sure tho

ok well confirmed, patch incoming

"Skyrim uses a lot of dynamic streaming systems, including textures. We've seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up. We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed). Skyrim makes heavy use of the Xbox 360 caching system, and caches over the normal course of play while in menus or interiors. This cache can be wiped when other games are played or when the user manually removes it. We're working on a solution in the next title update for those who have installed the game."

goddammit ups i am very busy and need you to deliver this now so i can start wasting time

you can see my crashes? you mean sudden log off/log on?

yup

How do you design AI to avoid that bucket trick? I guess you could give NPCs a desire to see a given patch of space? And have them move / move objects to make that happen?

Just purchased. Can't wait to get home and play.

just mark "putting bucket on my head" as a threatening action, like stealing apparently is for non-bucketheads.

idk if npc's have a sense of touch. they do if you bump into them maybe, plenty of games have that. it's an interesting design problem. shopkeepers should probably have an 'ideal layout' of their space in mind, if something changes w/o being paid they should get suspicious.

i always liked how you could walk up their private stairs to the apartments and it would be nbd unless they found you up there personally, maybe not even then.

put eyeholes in every in-game bucket

elder scrolls has that dumb "glass" material, make buckets out of that

trying very hard to make a character that doesn't look hideous. failing so far.

anyone been able to lower the drawbridge in the embershard mine? i even cheated and looked at a guide, and it's just like "use the switch to lower the drawbridge". but i...can't...find...the....switch...

NEVERMIND

*turns brightness up on display*

Loving this so far. Perhaps even more than Dark Souls.

i'm loving it too, although i'm a completely overwhelmed with sidequests already! no surprise, i guess, based off of everything i've ever heard about elder scrolls games.

one nitpick: it's a little annoying to not know how much a spell costs (in magika or whatever) before you buy the spell book. for example, i purchased the stoneflesh spell (increases armor), but when i tried to cast it found out that i don't have enough magika to use it, even at max levels.

d'oh!

lol, just hit my first freeze. bethasda, never change.

too tired from baby these days to spend all night playing so i'm crashing now. but good stuff.

4 hours in, I'm feeling seriously ambivalent about this game.

The UI is horrible to use on the PC and the mouse control is dodgy. No paper doll, GoogleTamriel instead of a sensible map an escaped prisoner might buy and stick in her pocket, wretched quest compass and no directions for those who don't want to use it.

NPCs look great, and their dialogue is 100x better than Oblivion even if they *do* talk over each other all the time and constantly blurt out information at you even if you've already talked to them about that thing / are looking the other way / are engaged in conversation with someone else. The sheer amount of dialogue and individual backstory is terrific. The quest writing looks like it's going to be pretty good.

Love the animations for smithing and cooking and so forth - I'm really pleased that they have put cooking in. I'm sad that there's no hardcore mode to make all that tasty food a bit more useful. Can't beleive how they've dumbed down alchemy. And apropos of nothing, why haven't they got bookshelves working?

It's real pretty, and I've always loved the way Beth design the little details, pots, baskets, rugs and shit like that. Armor is boring but at low levels that's cool, I just won't have come across anything exciting yet. The architecture is nice. The shape of the terrain is heaps better than Oblivion. However, having read one review that said the aesthetics and atmosphere harked back to Morrowind, I've been disappointed with what I've seen so far. I've only seen Winterhold and the outside of Solitude, but. I want to be surprised. Mushroom spires and giant shell houses and mysterious rusted machinery: Morrowind was full of things you might not have thought of yourself. Skyrim seems just as one-note as OB, maybe moreso, since the Planes of Oblivion at least had some strangeness to them the first time you saw them.

Has anyone come across anything really spectacular? Fabulous and fantastical? It would give me something to strive for to know that such places exist and I just haven't found them yet. I don't want details just - are they there?

guys what are your character names? its important