I dunno, I'd find that annoying! I guess it depends how immersive it all is tho.
― Trayce, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
pickpocketed a guard and got away with it.wandered out of the city and hey, here's three massive guys he sent to kill me. Which they do.Like fifteen times.Until I just take off running and they get hung up on a bug that keeps them trapped in a small area. So i jump up, fire magic at them to kill them and fall back. and do that like fifteen times.Some of the glitchy combat makes this not very fun sometimes.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
i thought they only send the guards when you don't get away with it. otherwise... how does he know it was you???
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea! but when i ganked the thugs there was a contract on me from a guard in their pockets saying "kill that dirty thief"
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
does it not tell you if you got caught? that'd be sweet
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
oh man the possibility that sometimes this game pretends you have successfully pickpocketed someone but then sends powerful assassins to kill you for it is the single best thing i have read about it so far
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
They were RIDICULOUSLY overpowered; three guys in heavy armor who appeared as soon as i walked out of town, said "We're here to teach you a lesson", surround me and then bang the shit out of me. Seriously, I kept dying for like ten minutes until I finally leapt over the top one and just lit out running off the side of a cliff on some omar shit.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Already I'm treating this as the last-thing-before-bed relaxing random mission type game that Morrowind was so good for. I'll do the main quest if it's the low-hanging fruit of the minute, otherwise I'll do whatever. Give me a thing and I will do it.
i haven't had much spare time so i've kind of been playing it this way too, and really enjoying it! after thinking about enchanting again (i was whining about it earlier), i realized that the combination of me being a really low-level enchanter and the fact that only filled gem i had was something called a "Petty gem" probably resulted in the really weak results. i'll probably continue to enchant shit, in the hopes that a few weeks i'll be enchanting everything with Inflict Diarrhea
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
i like that this game is happy at any time to kill you. idk if i am just pushing forward too hard for my level, but i got killed a bunch of times on the thousand steps. fucking troll asshole. i am level 5 btw.
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
also as an added bonus that def taught me to follow RPG tradition and remember to save often.
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
from what i have read there are places/enemies in the game that are never leveled down.
this is in the mail!!!
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
hey btw if i join up with the companions, does that lock me out of the other guilds, or can i switch when i get to the much despised by nords magic college?
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i decided to walk to winterhold or whatever, the place with the magic college. i left whiterun on saturday afternoon and kept getting distracted by stuff i came across. investigated a dead horse in front of a lighthouse, spent like 4 hours clearing a dungeon underneath. agreed to investigate some nightmares, ended up arguing with a disembodied daedric lord. i finally got to winterhold on monday night with some not insignificant playtime in between.
― adam, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i am both a companion and a student at the mages college.
oh also i am enjoying the fairly realistic casual racism that permeates the game, nords saying stuff like "well of course he stole that, hes a dirty elf".
xpost ok awesome. i am thinking that i should derail the main quest after doing this graybeard dungeon crawl and just do random shit for a while.
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
*indirect spoiler alert, maybe?*
fwiw, i purchased the strategy guide along with the game (hasn't actually helped...at all, basically. i think i just wanted an easy reference table for items and shit, not the other 400 pages that come in the guide), it suggested finishing the first 1/3 or so of the main story arc before branching off, which i think is around 7-9 main quests. the reasoning was that you'd pick up skills and unlock features (like the shout ability, etc) during the course of that first 1/3 that would come in handy with all the sidequests. so i dunno, i'm still doing a lot of random shit but i am trying to finish up this first bit of the main story arc sooner rather than later.
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey, should I get this y/n
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
dan, you will love it.i got derailed at the greybeards already! too much to do!
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
so now that people are playing this, is the gameplay/combat actually fun? or is the appeal mostly about exploring the giant massive world, which i think might just stress me out?
i think i might be enjoying this thread more than i would enjoy the actual game.
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
kk brb, heading to Best Buy
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
combat is fun but frustrating at times. I really like the brawling.as mentioned before, enemies often get confused by the parameters in which they can explore and will often stand ten feet in front of you gnashing their teeth and you can fire spell/bow and arrow them to death. On the other hand, sabretooth tigers are monsters that fly all over the goddamn plain after you. it's inconsistent.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
I have a friend who does AI for games and according to him there haven't been major advances in pathing for like forty years.
― lukas, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
that sounds about right.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty neat:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/224985/heres-how-to-make-morrowind-look-almost-as-good-as-skyrim/
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
so wait: if i buy oblivion on steam, can i modify it?
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:59 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
okay I thought Oblivion was a dull trudge through samey countryside with tedious missions, and after only 6-7 hrs I am confident that Skyrim shits it into a cocked hat.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:35 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah, the frost trolls are hell to kill without a companion, and those giant things will take you out in one hit. Fortunately they can be avoided by just talking a different route to wherever it was you were going. I had no trouble whatsoever on the 7,000 steps though for some reason.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh and I have just hit level 6
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Did you run into a frost troll about 3/4ths of the way up? He gave me a little trouble xp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
without a companion
wait...do you mean without a follower in general, or without a Companion? i was thinking of tackling that quest tonight.
also, my first follower died in pretty much the first big battle i had with her in tow. in the heat of battle i just lost my shit and started spewing fire at everything in the surrounding area, toasting friend and foe alike. then i stole her shit
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
if i could have, i would have cooked her and eaten her as well. my name is valdiev, creep of skyrim
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
btw "those giant things" are not the same as "the frost trolls" (just read back my own post)
Mordy: I never saw a front troll on the 7,000 steps iirc
Z S: 'Follower' and 'companion' are distinct things? Some woman called Lydia has been following me around and getting stuck against rocks, I just assumed she was my companion.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
my follower WILL NOT DIE; she's been killed at least a half dozen times.Maybe they're just beating her to the last inch of life and then abandoning her and coming after me as a main target? Can't tell? She's the Ulgrid the Unbeatable or whatever; the red sonja character in the bar who claims no one can beat her in a fight. Well i brawled the hell out of her and now she won't leave me alone. Dating in Skyrim is complicated.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
The Companions seem hella lame to me btw. Gonna join their group and then ditch them for the Empire first chance i get.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
ahh Companions are a Blades-like society thingo, right
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
I think u can join the Blades too tho. Companions are like the warriors guild.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yep, ta, I just didn't know the Companions were a thing until just now.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
Man, I really want to play this tonight. I haven't played since the weekend. I was all set to play last night but then water went out all day in our building and we ended up staying somewhere else so alas. but tonight. tonight i will play.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
im pretty sure that the only way one of your followers can actually die is if you kill them, ie spraying the area they are stupidly standing in with fire etc.
i am envious of not running into that frost troll on the 7000 steps, are you playing on normal difficulty?
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
lol i always wonder how there is even a functioning society at all with all these monsters roaming around.
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
racist
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
really can't wait to play this now
can't wait to gloriously murder companions
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
might've been slightly higher level tho
re racism, i remember in Morrowind they were all severely racist against Argonians/Lizardman and I swear that someone once either made this joke in the game, or we made the joke so many times about the game that I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was actually in the game: "two lizardmen in the back of a wagon, who is driving? the constable!"
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
i'm playing argonian and people keep basically making vaguely racist lizardman comments and i keep having to remind myself they're talking about me!
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
I swear that someone once either made this joke in the game, or we made the joke so many times about the game that I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was actually in the game
ease up on the ganj bro
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait, I forgot to mention I'm in novice, disregard everything I said or ever will say again
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
i should clarify that there were for sure a plethora of racist jokes about argonians in Morrowind, I just don't remember if that was actually one of them -- but i think it was.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link