craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege, and quality

I had to google that but I'm still going to pretend that you were talking about pills

nantucket reds are another good example on the other end of the class spectrum, because they are supposed to fade too -- also "bleeding madras".

nostalgia for "how things used to be made" etc

max is onto something when he mentions that it's also nostalgia for a time when people did manual labor

i guess it's unfortunate that my first exposures to Carhartt as a brand was when all the dipshit neighborhood teenagers would show up for summer/temp jobs with our construction company in head-to-toe brand new Carhartt and then squeal like babies and shy away the moment real, actual work was expected of them.. meanwhile me and the hispanics are wearing the shit out of cheap pre-distressed Arizona crap. Then i bought a pair of Carhartt boots and the soles split after a year.

But then again all my bros in Oregon wear that shit religiously.. like this pic i took last Feb in the mojave with them:
http://i44.tinypic.com/15oh2bt.jpg

pretty sure every stitch of clothing in that photo is carhartt.. well patinaed.

Of course, there's a huge, huge difference in wearing the hell out of work clothes/boots out west where it's dry as hell and here in the sweaty, sweaty south.

Carhartt shirts are cut weird, even for 'American-sized' work clothes. Giant balloony sleeves and super-long bodies.

Hmm, I should check those out. I'm proportioned like a 5'10" dwarf, I guess -- long torso and short legs.

maria is 5' 3" and i'm 6' and we wear the same size pants. which is weird.

Haha I'm the same height as Maria and I dated someone once who was at least 6' tall but woke up one morning and pulled my skinny jeans on by accident, and they fit. So it's not that hard to believe.

http://www.uniqlo.com/us/CSaDisp/category1=MEN&category3=Grameen%20UNIQLO

it's less smh if you pretend like it's just poorly translated japanese

trying to figure out which arrow on the flowchart is "I buy a shirt"

apparently "enlightenment and solving social problems" is part of the flowchart, they are promising a hell of a lot of karma for buying this shirt

tbh i'm not sure that uniqlo thing quite fits into the scope of the thread -- it's certainly not abt craftsmanship or quality afaict. but definitely part of a trend, consumer goods companies with charitable missions, q.v. toms, warby parker, etc

I think my hatred of those toms shoes is wearing off.

good karma for sale! git yer red hot good karma right hyere! step right up! it won't last long at this price!

denim has always owned fuiud

what does aerosmith think about wearing denim jackets with denim pants

Canadian tuxedo

I think my hatred of those toms shoes is wearing off.

― mh, Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:02 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Nnnnoooooo stay strong, comrade!!!

what does aerosmith think about wearing denim jackets with denim pants

Tennessee tuxedo iirc

http://www.motleycollegefootball.com/Images/TennesseeTuxedo.gif

also Texas Tuxedo

Tulsa tuxedo?

The owner of SelfEdge in his denim wedding suit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayn/1451831750/in/photostream/

I absolutely love the deflated, arms held at side posture that all sufu/styleforum people pose in

He actually wore it for the next 14 months until the right wear patterns set in

ha

too bad it doesn't fit him properly. I hope he soaked that shit in the bathtub before the wedding

lol

btw i have been wondering this for a while but can someone explain what the big deal about selvage denim? doesn't all loomed woven fabric technically have a selvage? i understand that the selvage is generally more durable than a cut edge, it won't unravel, ok sure. i am not trying to be dumb about this, i just have never really seen an explanation that i found reasonable satisfying.

idgi either but as far as I can tell it just signifies authenticity since that's the way it was traditionally done. and you have to roll up your cuffs to show it off.

right! and, well, using the selvage as part of the pattern lines means that you need to use more yardage than you would if you laid the pattern out by area & grain alone, yes? i realize i'm making an assumption here about the weaving & manufacturing processes but it seems like the value of selvage partly has to do with only using the *best* part of the denim -- i don't know if that also implies more waste or what, but definitely lends itself to higher materials cost.

it's kind of like how chinese scholars would grow their fingernails long to show they didn't have to do manual labor

It started out as a heritage thing in Japanese denim, and since that denim was made to a higher standard than industrial denim it became a signifier of quality. Then it blew up and you could get selvage at Old Navy (etc.) which was no better than non-selvage.

oh and i just want to say, too -- that selvage denim suit looks so so awful

heh, his whole outfit is unbelievable

the yo-yo! the wedding yo-yo

It's so embarrassingly bad-looking that I get squeamish just looking at the pic.

Who would marry someone wearing that?? How did his bride/partner-to-be not march him right out the door and to the nearest department store?!

my inner jewish mom is worrying about him staining that wonderful white dress shirt with that denim

…aren't you a chinese dude dayo?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1411/1450976673_58d729c992_z.jpg

because he is the dude who owns this site, i guess? http://www.selfedge.com

yes silby

Self Edge carries the world's finest denim and leather accessories, all with a distinct aesthetic and details that are second to none. Selvedge lines made of metallic red silk, rivets made from sterling silver, poisonous python skin tags from Okinawa—we've gone to great lengths to find these unique items and make them available to you. We don't see a pair of jeans as just a pair of jeans. We see them as part of your life—something that ages with you and, like you, only becomes better with time.

poisonous python skin tags from Okinawa

*shudders*

all this time I thought dayo was an old jewish woman

pythons are not poisonous

what about their skin tags?

this is how you rock the denim suit...

http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bing-crosby-wearing-levis-denim-tuxedo.jpg
http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/jes038a032p13a.jpg
http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/levis-tuxedo-denim-bing-crosby.jpg

note: the flower is made of red levis tags!

http://theselvedgeyard.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/history-of-denim-through-the-ages-western-wear-goes-hollywood/