Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)

I loved their EP with Vashti Bunyan.
This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

― Turangalila

xpost Turangalila, so from what I gather you've never really liked them (except for one e.p.) and still don't like them now?

I don't get it, I've not been too fond of them for a lot of the same reasons (and their supposed weirdness HAS always sounded like posturing to me, maybe not 'cartoonish' but still...) if anything I feel like they've dialled back some on the preciousness/affected qualities here for the better. I mean, couldn't you say all the same things about the Panda Bear record?

I'm never quite sure about this line of argument that anything genuinely happy sounding and emotionally uncomplicated and open about it in music has to be "balanced" by some darkness/tension/weirdness. I doubt there's anyone that doesn't have at least ONE record they love that makes a mockery of this.

and all the people complaining about the "underwater"-ness just sound like people hearing MBV for the first time and asking "is this the right speed??" a little.

anyway, I'm mostly enjoying this so don't really want my buzz harshing just yet lol, or to become a cheerleader for it just yet (i'm probably in the 'new fan' category here)

and about listening to this "irl" yeah, cheap lols & and a good zing but have you heard how popular MGMT are? This doesn't sound any more embarrassing to me than that, maybe if AC work their nipples a bit they too can be in the charts :P

(sorry didn't mean to requote the whole post there..)

this line of argument
Heh. Dude, you make it seem like favoring particular musical signifiers is somehow bigoted. Or that I'm implying that certain musical signifiers are inherently wrong.

I felt nauseous and uneasy after listening to this. Personally, I look for chiaroscuros in music. To me, this is mostly a grotesque blot of pastels. Or like the musical equivalent of Nutrasweet.

there is a lyrical reference to that obv
"saccharine sheen"
u almost got to wonder how the language of these comments are planted, though always as if the band somehow does not seem to be aware of what it has wrought...

xpost - sorry, I don't mean to. I just suspect there are whole swathes of music that could be dismissed with a very similar sounding argument (I'm probably thinking of your, at least I think it was.. hating of that one bjork record that Mel W hates too, which I don't agree with at all). You're right about this being pastel-ly though. For me it's more of a gorgeous pulsating jellyfish like blob of pastels though. I don't find it sonically ugly at all. Or artificial sounding (for the first time really w/r/t this band!).

again though, on first impressions I'm starting to think the bottom of this record is hit very quick. I felt the same way about the Panda Bear thing really, but that seemed deliberately surface-ish at least in construction. A few bass hits might not actually signify much depth here after all....

this thread used to be so much fun :(

it's the new BOC (again)...

mad hype & hijinks until the leak actually arrives

http://www.mynewplace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/tumbleweed.jpg

or I'm just draining the fun :/ soz

Still haven't heard the album in full but I expect I will be quite happy if it's all "superficial" and saccharine.

Superficial in scare quotes because I'm wary of surface/depth metaphors for music.

Food metaphors also annoy me. Unless they're taken to more specific and less value-laden extremes. i.e. I dislike talking about music in terms of fast foods, fine wines, artificial sweeteners etc. but I'm totally cool with people saying "this song sounds like a snickers bar whereas that song sounds like a cherry ripe."

(To my mind artificial sweetener comparisons never quite signify what they're intended to signify, because I never find nutrasweet or other artificial sweeteners terribly sweet. Milk chocolate vs dark chocolate (with milk chocolate as the superficial option) makes a lot more sense I suppose, but I actually prefer milk chocolate. Maybe it's just that I'm a sweet tooth both when it comes to food and when it comes to music)

First pat so otm. What I hate about the food comparison is that fast foods etc are scientifically proven to be bad for people whereas music can never be proven thus.

This album is probably giving me bigger buzzes than anything I can think of in oh...fuck knows how long. It's like Underworld and the Beach Boys in an elevator in a blender on drugs on acid.

*first par

I like this and all, but it seems a little straight forward somehow? Their previous work had a slightly looser feel which i liked but these songs don't really seem to fly off in too many different directions, despite all the nice weird noises

I never find nutrasweet or other artificial sweeteners terribly sweet
Right. They're a sort of toxic, quasi-sweet that tends to make people sick.

No music has ever made me sick I must say. If your doctor has warned you off listening to this album Salvador I'd encourage you to follow his or her advice!

I'm assuming this album is relentlessly cheerful in the same way as Since I Left You, which also has its fair share of lovers and haters.

"It's like Underworld and the Beach Boys in an elevator in a blender on drugs on acid."

Woah.

I think it was Tobias who first suggested the Underworld comparison. It's certainly nowhere near as dark or as conventionally UK prog/techno as Underworld but some of the use of vocals in that flailing almost instrumental way reminds me a lot of them. I keep thinking of terms like "indie-dance" etc as lazy impulsive reactions to this album, even in the sense that I want to compare it to past definitions of such terms, but the truth is this deserves to be considered as a good psychedelic record in its own right, free from the kind of cheap genre mashing terms that are so prevalent...

Have you heard the Gang Gang Dance album Ronan? I think you would like it.

I pretty much am never sure how much I like whatever AC affiliated release for about 3 months, then I end up either loving it and overlistening to it or never listening to it again, and again, I'm not sure with this. I ended up loving (most of) Strawberry Jam but I can't say I don't have massive reservations about some of it. But then, when they're good ('Chores', 'My Girls', 'Brothersport', 'Prospect Hummer', 'The Purple Bottle'), they're totally beyond wow.

Panda Bear >>> Avey Tare lyrically though. In a brilliant way.

this reminds me a little of disco inferno, around the "second language" e.p. "lion in a coma" = "the atheist's burden" with rubber balls bouncing on the bass

So, I posted a tell-all all blog about this rickrolling escapade.

animal cololctive: what happened?

hahaha

i'd like to think it's worth it just for the laurence bell pic

web sheriff email is pretty priceless

woohoo!

o michael chornomaz

Music can be provable to be actually bad for you in the same way as food can.

laurence bell could be played by a healthy john goodman

denzel as the web sheriff

also lol @ "forcing me to behave more and more like the Joker as portrayed by Heath Ledger in 2008's critically acclaimed "The Dark Knight.""

matthew lillard as michael chornomaz

roxy: game set match

had to reup cause i forgot this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/messofaschlong.jpg

mess of a schlong sounds like that dude recently posted on nsfws

lol @ taylor saporito's amazon list of "summer chillout albums" tho

http://www.amazon.com/Summer-Chill-Out-Albums/lm/R1MZ2QDP6ZBWL7/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full

pet sounds
blonde on blonde
sgt pepper
yankee hotel foxtrot
yoshimi...

it's clearly the list that had to be made

omg

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
***** great bow tie, still a little big at it's smallest, February 7, 2007
There is sincerely nothing more awesome than having a bow tie except for learning how to tie a bow tie.

I purchased this psychedelic treat as soon as I saw it online. I saw an untied bow tie around the neck of Wayne from the Flaming Lips last september in concert, and I have been lusting after one ever since. I have quite the impressive collection of psychedelic neck ties, and this was the perfect bow tie to add to my repertoire.

I was very pleased to see that this bow tie was adjustable. I am a very small man with a small neck, so this is great. I didn't even think of different sizes... it isn't a problem with my neck ties, but I didn't have any concept of how a bow tie was tied.

But even after it's adjusted as small as it can go, It's still a little big for my neck. I have found different methods of compensation in the tying process so I can tie it tightly enough for my uses, I still have the feeling that it's supposed to be a lot tighter on my neck. I wouldn't wear this to a fancy, formal event due to this, but most people I know wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And also I'm stressing that I am a very thin man.

The fabric is awesome for the price. While it doesn't exactly glimmer or shine like some of my more overtly psychedelic neck ties, it still compliments my eccentric wardrobe beautifully.

I need to make a comment for those who have never tied a bow tie before. It's not for the faint hearted. I literally slaved and cursed both at my computer and in front of the mirror for 3 hours while I tried to figure out how to tie the stupid thing. I must have looked at 40 different online instructions and youtube videos combined. But I eventually figured it out. And let me tell you. I have never felt a bigger feeling of accomplishment.

A great bow tie especially for the price. If you are thinking about it, do it. Comment | Permalink

wow. every line a gem.

trying to reconcile the two sides of taylor saporito creates a nightmare in your head

its a bad scene alright

i emailed taylor a link to the blog this morning. i hope he enjoys his mention.

Michael Chornomaz is the crucial detail that makes this total lolz

Michael Chornololz more like!

Hmm... 9.6 at pfork, can't say I'm surprised- even though I haven't got around to listening to it yet...

That's a higher rating (by 0.4) than anything received last year!

Are we looking at the Pfork #1 album of 2009, so soon?

now that this is done we should focus on this Dan Deacon record which is better i ain't bullshittin'

only if you twitter it.

in about 30 minutes, expect one.

now that this is done we should focus on this Dan Deacon record which is better i ain't bullshittin'

Fixed!

i haven't kept up with this thread after the beginning, but i just wanted to say that i'm afraid to download this album even from like iTunes

climate of fear