ALL NUMBERS IN CONSTANT FLUX
Year's over, man. You gotta set that shit in stone.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 2 January 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
five lists
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 2 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
Unperson's lists for the Wire and other publications are interesting—though not usually my cup o tea w/r/t metal choices
― ilxor, Monday, 2 January 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Simon Reynolds
11 for '11
Metronomy, The English Riviera Rustie, Glass Swords Oneohtrix Point Never, ReplicaJames Ferraro, Far Side Virtual Woebot, Chunks Maria Minerva, Tallinn At Dawn Ekoplekz, Intrusive Incidentalz Vol 1KWJAZ, s/t The Horrorist, Joyless PleasureUrsula Bogner, Sonne = Black BoxMoon Wiring Club, Clutch It Like A Gonk
plus, a bunch of trax and more albums, at the link above
― ilxor, Monday, 2 January 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Terrorizer Top 40 Albums
1 Mastodon - The Hunter2 Autopsy- Macabre Eternal3 Trap Them - Darker Handicraft4 Devin Townsend - Ghost / Deconstruction5 Amebix - Sonic Mass6 Altar of Plagues - Mammal7 Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage8 Blood Ceremony - Living With the Ancients9 Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult10 In Solitude - The World. The Flesh. The Devil11 Today Is The Day - Pain Is A Warning12 Primordial - Redemption at the Puritan's Hand13 40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room14 The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicentre15 Solstafir - Svartir Sandar16 Fucked Up - David Comes To Life17 Tombs - Path of Totality18 Machine Head - Unto the Locust19 Negative Plane - Stained Glass Revelations20 Vallenfyre - A Fragile King21 Ancient Vvisdom - A Godlike Inferno22 Opeth - Heritage23 Craft - Void24 Sonne Adam - Transformation25 Brutal Truth - End Time26 Disma - Towards The Megalith27 Leviathan - True Traitor, True Whore28 Yob - Atma29 All Pigs Must Die - God is War30 Cave In - White Silence31 Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning32 Will Haven - Voir Dire33 Decapitated - Carnival is Forever34 Obscura - Omnivium35 Rwake - Rest36 Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift37 Maim - Deceased To Exist38 Absu - Abzu39 Esoteric - Paragon of Dissonance40 Shining - VII: Fodd Forlorare
Kerrang Albums Of The Year101 Black Veil Brides - Set The World On Fire100 Rise To Remain - City Of Vultures99 The Treatment - This Might Hurt98 Dropkick Murphys - Going Out In Style97 Young Legionnaire - Crisis Works96 RAMESSES - Possessed By The Rise Of Magik95 Loutallica - Lulu94 Cave In - White Silence93 Bastions - Hospital Corners92 All Time Low - Dirty Work91 Death Cab For Cutie - Codes And Keys90 The Subways - Money And Celebrity89 Scale The Summit - The Collective88 Trivium - In Waves87 Iceage - New Brigade86 OPETH - Heritage85 Asking Alexandria - Reckless & Relentless84 Arbouretum - The Gathering83 Yellowcard - When You're Through Thinking Say Yes82 This Is Hell - Black Mass81 Red Hot Chili Peppers - I'm With You80 Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will79 Mike Patton - The Solitude Of Prime Numbers78 Kids In Glass Houses - In Gold Blood77 I Am The Avalanche - Avalanche United76 Goes Cube - In Tides And Drifts75 OFF! - First Four EP's74 The Icarus Line - Wildlife73 Rival Sons - Pressure And Time72 Retox - Ugly Animals71 Procession - Destroyers Of The Faith70 My Ruin - A Southern Revelation69 FEN - EPOCH68 Animals As Leaders - Weightless67 ALTAR OF PLAGUES - MAMMAL66 The Blackout - hope65 unearth - Darkness In The Light64 Sucioperro - The Heart String And How To Pull It63 IN SOLITUDE - THE WORLD, THE FLESH, THE DEVIL62 SKELETONWITCH - Forever Abomination61 Chuck Ragan - Covering Ground60 Times Of Grace - Hymn Of A Broken Man59 Black Spiders - Sons Of The North58 Thursday - No Devolucion57 *Shels - Plains Of The Purple Buffalo56 The Black Keys - El Camino55 We Are The Ocean - Go Now And Live54 Slaves To Gravity - Underwater Outerspace53 PRIMORDIAL - REDEMPTION AT THE PURITANS HAND52 Funeral For A Friend - Welcome Home Armageddon51 EARTH - ANGELS OF DARKNESS, DEMONS OF LIGHT 150 Heights - Dead Ends49 Bury Your Dead - Mosh N' Roll48 Deaf Havana - Fools And Worthless Liars47 BLOOD CEREMONY - LIVING WITH THE ANCIENTS46 The Swellers - Good For Me45 Social Distortion - Hard Times And Nursery Rhymes44 The Computers - This Is The Computers43 Hell - Human Remains42 Japanese Voyeurs - Yolk41 The Answer - Revival40 Rival Schools - Pedals39 Blink-182 - Neighborhoods38 Tellison - The Wages Of Fear37 Hyro Da Hero - Birth, School,Work,Death36 Cerebral Ballzy - S/t35 Exit Ten - Give Me Infinity34 Evile - Five Serpent's Teeth33 J Mascis - Several Shades Of Why32 Evanescence - Eveanescence31 Touche Amore - Parting The Sea between Brightness And Me30 Puscifer - Conditions Of My Parole29 City And Colour - Little Hell28 WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM - CELESTIAL LINEAGE27 Arcane Roots - Left Fire26 Jane's Addiction - The Great Escape Artist25 Fucked Up - David Comes To Life24 Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows - D.R.U.G.S.23 La Dispute - Wildlife22 TRAP THEM - DARKER HANDCRAFT21 Taking Back Sunday - S/t20 Twin Atlantic - Free19 New Found Glory - Radiosurgery18 Defeater - Empty Days And Sleepless Nights17 Cage The Elephant - Thank You, Happy Birthday16 Thrice - Major/Minor15 The King Blues - Punk & Poetry14 Mariachi El Bronx - II13 Korn - The Path Of Totality12 Frank Turner - England Keep My Bones11 Beastie Boys - Hot Sauce Committee Part 210 Will Haven - Voir Dire9 The James Cleaver Quintet - That Was Then, This Is Now8 The Horrible Crowes - Elsie7 The Wonder Years - Suburbia6 You Me At Six - Sinners Never Sleep5 Rise Against - Endgame4 Foo Fighters - Wasting Light3 Machine Head - Unto The Locust2 Letlive - Fake History1 Mastodon - The Hunter
Metal Hammer Top 50 albums of 2011
50 Trap Them - Darker Handcraft49 Primus - Green Naugahyde48 Arabrot - Solar Anus47 Hammers Of Misfortune - 17th Street46 Cerebral Ballzy - S/T45 YOB - Atma44 TessaracT - One43 Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning42 Vallenfyre - A Fragile King41 Times Of Grace - Hymns Of A Broken Man40 The Dwarves - The Dwarves Are Born Again39 Anvil - Juggernaut Of Justice38 Ken Mode - Venerable37 Altar Of Plagues - Mammal36 Blood Ceremony - Living With The Ancients35 Will Haven - Voir Dire34 Skeletonwitch - Forever Abomination33 Wormrot - Dirge32 Nightwish - Imaginaerum31 Devin Townsend - Ghost30 Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn Of Events29 Solstafir - Svartir Sandar28 Foo Fighters - Wasted Light27 Trivium - In Waves26 Jane's Addiction - The Great Escape Artist25 In Solitude - The World,The Flesh,The Devil24 The Damned Things - Ironiclast23 Pentagram - Last Rites22 Autopsy - Macabre Eternal21 Steel Panther - Balls Out20 Motorhead - The World Is Yours19 Black Stone Cherry - Between The Devil & The Deep Blue Sea18 Ancient VVisdom - A Godlike Inferno17 Primordial - Redemption At The Puritan's Hand16 Wolves In The Throne Room - Celestial Lineage15 Devildriver - Beast14 Amebix - Sonic Mass13 The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicentre12 Gentleman's Pistols - At Her Majesty's Pleasure11 Evile - Five Serpents Teeth10 Graveyard - Nuclear Blast9 Skindred - Union Black8 Black Spiders - Sons Of The North7 Devin Townsend Project - Deconstruction6 Hell - Human Remains5 Megadeth - Thirt3en4 Opeth - Heritage3 Anthrax - Worship Music2 Machine Head - Unto The Locust1 MASTODON - THE HUNTER
DECIBEL EOY List:
1. Tombs - Path of Totality2. Opeth- Heritage3. Mastodon - The Hunter4. In Solitude - The World. The Flesh. The Devil.5. Brutal Truth- End Time6. Hate Eternal - Phoenix Amongst the Ashes7. YOB - Atma8. 40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room9. Inquisition - Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual.......10. Junius - Reports From The Threshold of Death11. Graveyard - Hisingen Blues12. Primordial - Redemption at the Puritan's Hand13. Exhumed - All Guts, No glory14. False - False15. Autopsy - Macabre Eternal16. Revocation - Chaos of Forms17. Trap Them - Darker Handcraft18. Obscura - Omnivium19. Drugs of Faith - Corroded20. Subrosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones21. Ulcerate - The Destroyers of All22. Fucked Up - David Comes to Life23. Atriarch - Forever the End24. Disma - Towards the Megalith25. Moab - Ab Ovo26. Gridlink - Orphan27. Skeletonwitch - Forever Abomination28. Vallenfyre - A Fragile King29. Crowbar - Sever the Wicked Hand30. Mournful Congregation - The Book of Kings31. Machine Head - Unto the Locust32. ABSU - Abzu33. Negative Plane - Stained Glass Revelations34. Origin - Entity35. Darkest Era - The Last Caress of Light36. Deafheaven - Roads to Judah37. Hammers of Misfortune - 17th Street38. Krallice - Diotima39. Rwake - Rest40. Graf Orlock - Doom Box
Rock-A-Rolla Top 50 Albums
01 The Book Of Knots - Garden Of Fainting Stars (Ipecac)02 Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will (Rock Action)03 Earth - Angels Of Darkness, Demons Of Light 1 (Southern Lord)04 Wolves In The Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (Southern Lord)05 Boris - Attention Please (Sargent House)06 Obake - Obake (Rarenoise)07 Black Cobra - Invernal (Southern Lord)08 Barn Owl - Lost In The Glare (Thrill Jockey)09 Loss - Despond (Profound Lore)10 Wooden Shjips - West (Thrill Jockey)11 Mike Patton - The Solitude Of Prime Numbers (Ipecac)12 Grails - Deep Politics (Temporary Residence Ltd)13 Tombs - Path Of Totality (Relapse)14 Alva Noto - Univrs (Raster-Noton)15 Asva - Presences Of Absences (Important)16 Enablers - Blown Realms And Stalled Explosions (Exile On Mainstream)17 Hexvessel - Dawnbearer (Svart)18 Today Is The Day - Pain Is A Warning (Black Market Activities/Good Fight Music)19 Bloodiest - Descent (Relapse)20 Killl - Killl (Fysisk Format)21 Fire! With Jim O' Rourke - Unreleased? (Rune Grammofon)22 Boris - Heavy Rocks (Sargent House)23 Remember Remember - The Quickening (Rock Action)24 Hella - Tripper (Sargent House)25 Årabrot - Solar Anus (Fysisk Format)26 The Atlas Moth - An Ache For The Distance (Profound Lore)27 Mamiffer - Mare Decendrii (Sige/Conspiracy)28 Gridlink - Orphan (Hydra Head)29 Explosions In The Sky - Take Care, Take Care, Take Care (Temporary Residence/Bella Union)30 Circle - Infektio (Conspiracy)31 YOB - Atma (Profound Lore)32 Dale Cooper Quartet & The Dictaphones - Metamanoir (Denovali)33 Blut Aus Nord - 777: The Desanctification (Debemur Morto)34 A Storm Of Light - As The Valley Of Death Becomes Us, Our Silver Memories Fade (Profound Lore)39 Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraisoufo - The Ripper At The Heaven Gates Of Dark (Riot Season)40 Amebix - Sonic Mass (Easy Action)41 Mika Vainio - Life (...It Eats You Up) (Editions Mego)42 Birds Of Passage - Winter Lady (Denovalii)43 Rwake - Rest (Relapse)44 Conquering Animal Sound - Kammerspiel (Gizeh)45 Zombi - Escape Velocity (Relapse)46 Terra Tenebrosa - The Tunnels (Trust No One)47 Raoul Sinier - Guilty Cloaks (Ad Noiseam)48 Ovo - Cor Cordium (Supernatural Cat)49 Rising - To Solemn Ash (Exile On Mainstream)50 Skullflower - Fucked on A Pile Of Corpses (Cold Spring)
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
sure, why not:
01 deaf centre - owl splinters (type)02 teams vs star slinger - s/t (mexican summer)03 hatchback - zeus and apollo (lo recordings)04 philip marshall - casse-tête (tapeworm)05 ken seeno - an invisible surfer on an invisible wave (nna tapes)06 dawn richard - the prelude to a tell tale heart (self-released)07 time wharp - later. (wonder beard)08 death grips - exmilitary (self-released)09 chris watson - el tren fantasma (touch)10 main attrakionz - 808s and dark grapes II (mishka)
11 soft metals - s/t (captured tracks)12 borden, ferraro, godin, halo + lopatin - FRKWYS vol. 7 (RVNG international) 13 julia kent - green + grey (important)14 tim hecker - ravedeath, 1979 (kranky)15 pedro magina - ninteen hundred and eighty five (nnf tapes)16 quicksails - a fantasy in seasons (nna tapes) 17 ben fleury-steiner - the places that find you (low point) 18 spaceghostpurpp - blvckland rvdix 66.6 (1991) (self-released)19 moritz von oswald trio - horizontal structures (honest jon's)20 peaking lights - 936 (not not fun)
21 zodiac free arts club - floating world (permanent vacation)22 v/a - the hidden tapes (minimal wave)23 wet wings - glory glory (atelier ciseaux)24 universal swimsuit - i dream of floating... (self-released)25 kendrick lamar - section.80 (top dawg)26 com truise - galactic melt (ghostly international) 27 africa hitech - 93 million miles (warp)28 natural snow buildings - waves of the random sea (blackest rainbow)29 golden retriever - light cones (root strata)30 rene hell - the terminal symphony (type)
― Deist (Hungry4Aslan) (Lamp), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
In the list of the bold, the one in all-caps is king xp
― hickory always flavours the wieners (NickB), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
List relevant to the stuff i write about - top 15 foreign-language pop songs of the year:
1.2NE1 - I Am The Best2. Yelle - Comme Un Enfant3. 3Ball MTY - Intentalo4. Iza Lach - Nie Wiecej5. Jennifer Rostock - Mein Mikrofon6. Lollipop F - Dance7. Atiye Deniz - Budur8. Frida Gold - Wovon Sollen Wir Traumen9. Hyuna - Bubble Pop!10. Serebro - Mama Lyuba11. Anastasia Vinnikova - Moya Belarus12. Mirami - Miramimania13. Nyusha - Bolno14. Kasia Nosowska - Nomada 15. Van Ness Wu ft Ryan Tedder - Is This All?
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 2 January 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
My end of year compilation:
1. wells moffat - the copper top2. tim hecker - sketch 83. a winged victory for the sullen - we played some open chords4. nils frahm - familiar5. king creosote & jon hopkins - aurora boring alias6. jacaszek - dare-gale7. mogwai - does this always happen?8. remember remember - white castle9. british sea power - cleaning out the rooms10. king creosote & jon hopkins - bats in the attics11. james blake - limit to your love12. the streets - lock the locks13. matt eliott - dust flesh and bones14. piano magic - the way of the birds15. british sea power - baby16. wells moffat - let's stop here
― djh, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously publishing lists is what critics do, and if it's out on the web it's out on the web, but it would be <cool if this thread turned into everyone just posting their EOY ballot in advance.
Yours,
Mr. Poll Police
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
3. 3Ball MTY - Intentalo
I think this has the potential to be looked back on as a big deal, if it opens the way for more tribal guarachero hits (or possibly other newish Mexican or Latin American dance pop songs). It's a lot newer than it might appear to be. In my opinion tribal isn't just a sub-genre of cumbia, although I can understand people thinking of it that way.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
At the very least I'd be happy to hear more music that sounds like this around Albuquerque, and less banda. (Sorry Matt.)
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah fair enough im not sure ill even post my list on my site and figured here was a good enough place. also my ilx ballot will probably look slightly different so
― 0010101 (Lamp), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
yikes, didn't really mean spam the thread with 4-5 poll results from metal publications we've seen lists from already—in bold even!
i was trying to post lists we hadnt seen in the Sandbox
― ilxor, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
Okayafrica’s Top 11 Music Videos of 2011
Art Melody “L’ébène Est Dans Le Noir”
Nneka “My Home”
Just A Band “Kichwateli”
Tinariwen & TV On The Radio “Tenere Taqqim Tossam”
Spoek Mathambo “Control”
Blitz The Ambassador “Native Sun”
Lexxus Legal ft. Leslyman “Fauchés”
Buraka Som Sistema “Hangover (BaBaBa)”
Mo Kolours “Biddies”
Die Antwoord “Fok Julle Naaiers”
Ruffest “Siyabenzela”
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
my 2011 faves. same as my pazz&jop ballot:
http://skotrok.blogspot.com/2011/12/till-world-ends-top-ten-albums-of-2011.html
some other records that i played a lot in 2011. (old stuff)
http://skotrok.blogspot.com/2011/12/some-2011-favorites-that-didnt-come-out.html
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
Seriously Pitchfork readers?!? Childish Gambino the most underrated album of the year? One of the worst albums lists yet too.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol pitchfork reader polls are always hilarious and illuminating
― some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
3 radiohead songs in the top 50 tracks!
― some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
At this point I'm thinking even Stereogum readers are less ridiculous.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
no i think that's childish gambino fan central
― some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, I guess I shouldn't used that site as a benchmark since I probably haven't visited it in 6 months now.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://stereogum.com/908652/the-gummy-awards-your-top-20-indie-rock-crushes-of-2011/the-gummy-awards/
i hope his next album has an "only rapper with an emmy AND a gummy" boast
― some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
Think I posted mine in the Sandbox, but WTH:
http://charlieframe.wordpress.com/2011/12/23/my-top-40-albums-of-2011/
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
1 When Saints Go Machine – Konkylie2 Jon Hopkins & King Creosote - Diamond Mine3 Panda Bear – Tomboy4 Console – Herself5 Perc – Wicker And Steel6 Iron & Wine – Kiss Each Other Clean7 Death Grips – Exmilitary8 Various Artists – Bangs & Works Vol.II9 Art Department – The Drawing Board10 Nicolas Jaar – Space Is Only Noise
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/top21_albums_550_2.png
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Scott- I liked your 2011 essay. Have you ever seen the movie "The Gleaners & I" by Agnes Varda? You might like it - about modern-day foragers in France.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/lucky11.htm
Top 100 with blurbs for top 13, and genre lists. Here's also my mixes:Fast 'n' Bulbous Best of 2011 Part 1 [1GB] & Part 2 [902MB], expires Jan. 5.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
I love how Pfork readers "best" and "most overrated" albums of the year lists are basically identical
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
they usually are in readers polls for some reason
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
this guy links to a bunch of eoy lists (but not several I just sent to him...afropop.org and others)
http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2011/11/2011_yearend_on.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
instead of "the 99%" and "the 1%" in music, it's just one set of 50% that listens to popular stuff and the other 50% thinking that stuff is soooo overrated
― some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
99% listens, 1% pays for it
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
My P&J top 10:
1. Cauldron – Burning Fortune (Earache)2. Gentlemans Pistols – At Her Majesty’s Pleasure (Rise Above)3. Nazareth – Big Dogz (Eagle)4. Matana Roberts – Coin Coin Chapter One: Gens de Couleur Libres (Constellation)5. Randy Montana – Randy Montana (Mercury)6. John Waite – Rough and Tumble (Frontiers/No Brakes)7. Carl Marshall – Love Who You Wanna Love (CDS ’10)8. Blood Ceremony – Living With The Ancients (Rise Above)9. Them Bird Things – Wildlike Wonder (Playground Music Finland ‘10)10. Vektor – Outer Isolation (Heavy Artillery)
Posted my top 100 here:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/chuck-eddy/my-100-favorite-albums-of-2011/10150668450949338
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
x-post-Carl Wilson in Slate(I'd say the emphasis on a "big one" is still relevant)On that note, it’s worth remembering that chart pop, as diverting a zeitgeist barometer as it can be, is now simply another niche. A big one, but still a specialized sector.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_music_club/features/2011/music_club_2011/best_music_2011_bon_iver_is_unlistenable_.html
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
carl's posts on there are really good. really liked the last one.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
xhuxk, is your list of 100 available anywhere else that doesn't require having a Facebook account?
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Not yet (and as somebody who didn't have a fb account until a few months ago, I know how annoying that is), but I'll say so if that changes. Just didn't want to clog up this thread with such a long list.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Scratch that; I just posted it here:
XHUXK'S TOP 100+ ALBUMS OF 2010!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks. Yeah, there's a local vegan restaurant (I'm back to vegan at the moment for (my usual) health reasons) which links to its menu but to see it requires that you log in to Facebook. That's demanding a lot of commitment from their customers.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
ayo scott your 2011 albums post is so excellent, for real
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
ann powers is an amazing writer/thinker obv, but the 'pop music is just another niche' was something i've been thinking a lot when i read her coverage, like i kind of feel like it's being beamed in from a world that exists only in the abstract. like, i don't feel like the existing community of fans that listen to exclusively charting ish is really all that big
― Regional Thug (D-40), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
(any more)
or i should say, listening to a large percentage of the stuff that is charting; there are probably lots of people who still just listen to charting music, but not MOST music that charts
― Regional Thug (D-40), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
kind of feel that it's gone the other way in the last couple of years (would've said the same thing a few years ago)
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
rlly? i feel like historically there were lots of people who just liked whatever was on TRL, but now everyone's sorta more adrift
― Regional Thug (D-40), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
i def get the feeling that the chart pop community has strengthened and expanded recently - cf online stan culture, the nature of increasingly personality-driven pop, cross-pollination between fanbases etc
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like it's more of a cult thing tho -- like, it's solidified online into a 'community' and that community has grown, but that community is also fairly restricted & niche-ish, rather than broad and disconnected like it used to be
― Regional Thug (D-40), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
isn't the nature of pop stardom to create cults around its stars and creations?
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
well, i get the impression it's becoming far less restricted/niche-ish among a generation of teenage pop fans for whom classroom culture and online culture must constantly blend
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I misread your post jaymc, I think overall it definitely skews young, but afaik its distributed pretty widely around the world - I notice users from lots of different places.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
xp OK so I guess that is still essentially true of its weekly chart: Beatles, Radiohead, Adele, Rihanna, etc. So now I'm just confused how some seemingly less-popular acts make the year-end rankings.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
E.g., the only artist in this week's Top 100 that I haven't heard of is Avicii, down at #78.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
well i mean, the overwhelming majority of people listening to music on earth do not 'scrobble,' so of course you're gonna get statistical hiccups like The Strokes being the 7th most popular artist of 2011. not much we can really do or say about that beyond making the obvious jokes and generalizations.
― some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
it's possible that those lesser-known artists on the yearly list each have REALLY dedicated cults that just listen to their favorite acts more consistently over the course of the whole year than people who listen to less music or use lastfm less or something.
― some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I get this. Like I said, I was mostly confused b/c when I've glanced at Last.fm charts in the past (which I guess were just the weekly ones), it was mostly full of mainstream and big indie artists.
Strokes at #7 isn't that shocking to me. James Blake and the Vaccines (whoever they are) in the top 20 is.
Possibly?
Actually, is it possible that Last.fm's Top Artists of the Year only counts tracks released in 2011? That would explain the absence of some of the classic-rock artists that routinely show up in the weekly charts.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno if you asked me "who had a good year among music fans on the internet in 2011," James Blake's name would come up a LOT faster than The Strokes
― some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
i think you're EXACTLY right about that list being only people who released music in 2011 (whether the figures only count their new music or all their music, i have no idea)
― some dude, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
James Blake had a bigger year among music critics/nerds on the Internet, but I am not so sure about the broader pool of "fans."
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, this is a worldwide list! he had pop hits in a few countries!
― lame adele rey (some dude), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
afaict the strokes didn't really have a top 10 hit anywhere last year
he had pop hits in a few countries!
OK, I guess I didn't realize quite how popular he was in the UK/Europe. #1 album in Flanders, huh.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/The-Dean-s-List-Christgau-s-Best-of-2011/ba-p/6657
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/Dad-Rock-Makes-a-Stand/ba-p/6659
Christgau's year-end essay
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
"sleeper hit" isn't really the right description for an album that debuted at #1 with 300k copies sold, stayed there for a week and then returned a few weeks later
― lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
is there a thread for best mix/ mixtape/mix album in general of 2011? couln't find one― Sébastien, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:20 (Yesterday) Bookmark
― Sébastien, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:20 (Yesterday) Bookmark
It's this http://dismagazine.com/disco/mixes/14817/nguzunguzu-the-perfect-lullaby/
― Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
2 albums by Wussy in the Christgau top 10. I think I listened to one song of theirs once. Maybe I should give them more listening time.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
afaict the only fans Wussy has on earth are Christgau and his disciples
― lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Yep.
Predictable from me I know, but I like checking out the various African releases he includes. Usually he has some in his top 20, but this year they seem further down. He and Jon Pareles from the NY Times give love to afropop.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
Plastic People of the Universe put out an album recently?
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 13 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
I was not aware of that either
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
The Plastic People record on his list came out in mid-2010. I wonder if it's placement has to do with Havel's passing.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
That sounds like something Christgau would do, though it could just be that he heard it late and liked it a lot.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
Havel's death might have brought them to mind and he checked out their latest. Who knows.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
there are over a dozen 2010 records that he presumably first heard in 2011 peppered throughout the list, all with "'10" noted in parentheses
― lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
He's written about the Plastic People a fair amount over the years as well (so whenever he became aware of it, it's not surprising it would make his list)
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
Nice year-end show here:http://radio.maximumrocknroll.com/mrrradio1278/
Been a loyal listener ever since they introduced me to Kitchen's Floor.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
James Delingpole's Records of the Year 2011
Laura Marling – A Creature I Don’t Know (Virgin)Kate Bush – Director’s Cut (Fish People)Seasick Steve – You Can’t Teach An Old Dog New Tricks (Play It Again Sam)Jack Cheshire – Copenhagen (Safety First)David J Roch – Skin & Bones (Dram Music)Paul Kalkbrenner – Ich Wieder (Rough Trade)Cashier No. 9 – To The Death Of Fun (Bella Union)Kate Bush – 50 Words For Snow (Fish People)PJ Harvey – Let England Shake (Island)Danger Mouse and Daniele Luppi – Rome (Parlophone)The Pierces – You & I (Polydor)Other Lives – Tamer Animals (Play It Sam)
http://jamesdelingpole.com/images/logo.png
― pfutt, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Christgau has the 2010 Extra Lens album on his list but not he 2011 Mountain Goats one. Weird.
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
All critics of ILM, please apply your critical faculties to voting in the end-of-year poll! If you've already done a 2011 list for somewhere else it's double-easy: just check which of your choices have been nominated and send off a ballot.
― rhetorical questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
ann powers agrees with me now ...
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
Congrats. But what did she say or write that prompted this?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link
Check her fb
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link
ah, now I get it
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 05:35 (three years ago) link
She is arguing that over the years now the media has gotten worse and only covers tiny subset of pop stars;
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 April 2021 12:35 (three years ago) link
Yeah a trend her coverage has been more or less emblematic of since ... this thread
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link
That’s not fair to her entirely ofc, I don’t think she didn’t cover interesting or niche or whatever stuff (I only followed so closely) — But it was def an underlying uhh ... dynamic I feel like I was trying to get at in this thread
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
She’s gotten more into roots Americana stuff since moving to Nashville ( but she’s missing out on less hyped southern soul, zydeco, blues, brass band , whatever Americana)
― curmudgeon, Friday, 16 April 2021 04:18 (three years ago) link