from what I understand it is another track from the new one.
― fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
terrible
― waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet
― gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (twelve years ago) link
i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
I just got the press release.
Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.
Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.
This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.
That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy
― Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing
It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene
― gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
's musical output.
― gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.
― "I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.
Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.
Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.
― Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
And Austra.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.
― fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
i really don't know what i think of this album
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.
Skin is also an early favourite.
Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?
This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.
― jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.
― Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
really digging this myself
― Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.
― fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.
― Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!
*cries*
Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.
Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeh this is excellent
― nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.
"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.
want more songs like "oblivion"
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
For lex:Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
^ Also of Montreal.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
so she made this on garageband, huh?
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Mozart's Sister is also v. good!
They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today
― tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Really can't believe we have come to a point where evoking the names Stacy Q and Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam results in a positive fucking review. I give up.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
I love this album cover!
http://www.tellallyourfriendspr.com/sites/default/files/GrimesVisions.jpg
― dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, is awesome. post in the best of 2012 thread!
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
after being completely underwhelmed by anything i heard of hers before this record (i'm kind of with lex on the voice thing), i'm really enjoying "oblivion" and "circumabient"
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
Fucking adore this record.
Funny that Alex in Montreal referred to Braids upthread as this album strikes me as something of an electronic equivalent, simultaneously tuneful and spacious and drifting (whereas I think Juliana Barwick is a bit of a misleading point of comparison).
"Skin" esp. is wonderful.
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
i gave this a few more tries and while there's nothing i actively dislike about her music, neither is there anything hooking me back in - it's all vaguely "interesting", also very unmemorable and lite.
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://boingboing.net/2024/01/02/now-we-know-what-grimes-saw-in-elon.html
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:42 (two months ago) link
Why do gay people hate aircraft?― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, January 2, 2024 2:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, January 2, 2024 2:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I think what she's trying to say is that she identifies as a middle-aged white man because she likes aircraft, an interest associated with middle-aged white men. But because she is also sexually or romantically attracted to men, that makes her gay. It's strongly reminiscent of "I identify as an attack helicopter" transphobic bullshit if not just a straight-up dog whistle to that point.
I 'm going to see if my local record store will take a trade-in on my copy of Art Angels. I've been holding on to it because I like the music and she's already got my money from it. But every time I look at the spine, I get angry. Not holding my breath for a Claire Boucher redemption story at this point.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:49 (two months ago) link
She wrote a paragraph to recreate the "lesbian trapped in a man's body" Spencer's Gifts t-shirt.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:24 (two months ago) link
But that t-shirt is sort of funny and doesn’t seem ill-intended unlike her tweet.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 19:37 (two months ago) link
there are formulations of anti/post humanism which are actually radical (for better or worse) and aren't just the ruling class dressing up their racist capitalist nihilism as something new and rebellious but of course this version is what has taken off. fuck the world
― Left, Monday, January 1, 2024 1:48 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
agree but think it's way more sinister than this, tbh.
― budo jeru, Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:44 (two months ago) link
but it's a conversation for another thread (and connects to j. epstein's creepy "transhumanism"). i hate this person and her lame music and opinions so won't keep posting here
― budo jeru, Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:45 (two months ago) link
the only way "back" for her is to ditch all that stuff and rebrand as "claire."
― treeship., Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:10 (two months ago) link
which is a nice name, actually.
perhaps her riverboat alias, Veruschka
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:26 (two months ago) link
I bet Grimey would love this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0gnnVcOLNc
― peace, man, Thursday, 4 January 2024 15:45 (two months ago) link
She would certainly agree that Marconi's innovations in Mamba playing are among the peaks of white civilization
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 January 2024 15:52 (two months ago) link
is she finally enough of a nazi now that the music press won't cover her at all because she put out some garbage 'nightcore remix' version of one of her old albums last week and i only just found out by accident
― ufo, Thursday, 7 March 2024 07:39 (three weeks ago) link
I think it's a little of column A and a little of column B, the latter being "what the fuck is a nightcore remix", also I could be wrong but no one really reported/gave a shit that Daft Punk put out that "drumless edition" of Random Access Memories either
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 March 2024 12:12 (three weeks ago) link
well shit I'll listen to a drumless edition of R.A.M. thanks Murgatroid
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:12 (three weeks ago) link
pitchfork reviewed that drumless RAM fwiw
― rob, Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:17 (three weeks ago) link
As lazy as the drumless version of RAM is it probably took more time that this “nightcore” remix. I haven’t listened -or intend to do it ever - but for those unaware “nightcore” just means a sped up and higher pitched version of a song:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcore
So she probably did this in like 15 mins and called it a day.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:36 (three weeks ago) link
No wonder why noone is taking a minute to review it or even mention it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:38 (three weeks ago) link
well.
i guess i should say _something_ here.
lame move to stay relevant? most likely. kinda worked on me tho, because it prompted me to go back to the original album.
and she was definitely onto something else for a minute back then. the world really is a weird place. what did any of this music mean back then? i don't think it's for me to know, but it always sounded fucking great in every situation. it wasn't my soundtrack, it was my smarter friend also realizing we're lost again, but being... well, more intelligent than me. yeah, i agree! let's go this way!
idk. i might listen to the nightcore version, but this music has already tormented me enough.
weird how a subconscious works+experiencing her music as a multiple. what a wonderful hiding place. she never did break my heart in the dark.👋🏻
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:57 (three weeks ago) link
Grimes the musician has always been mediocre at best IMO
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2024 17:41 (three weeks ago) link
I thought she was brilliant in the Visions - Art Angels run, enjoyed that period a lot. Hard to revisit now.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 7 March 2024 18:00 (three weeks ago) link
considering it's the album that has a bunch of Dune references, she probably thought she'd hijack some attention
good try, Grehms
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 7 March 2024 18:34 (three weeks ago) link
those remixes are made for tiktok labels drop like 50 of them a day
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 7 March 2024 18:44 (three weeks ago) link
She's probably right about this
i’m sorry grimes but what the fuck do you mean by this pic.twitter.com/75cyRulfZj— horse dentist (@equine__dentist) March 17, 2024
― President Keyes, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:08 (one week ago) link
hahaha i was just coming to post that
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 March 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link
surely he's the Alia because she did hell of spice during pregnancy
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 18 March 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link
I’m the main character
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:37 (one week ago) link
ornithopter parent
― 145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:53 (one week ago) link
I'm reading it as Elon (father) : Baron Harkonnen :: Grimes (daughter) : Lady Jessica :: Paul : X-tAEL (or whatevs)
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:57 (one week ago) link
They're all giant worms.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 18:59 (one week ago) link
It's Dune but the worms are in your brains
― President Keyes, Monday, 18 March 2024 19:11 (one week ago) link
So her son is going to start a holy war that kills half the population and then her grandson will live for thousands of years in a symbiosis with a worm? I could see that
― bbq, Monday, 18 March 2024 21:24 (one week ago) link
🫡
― mookieproof, Monday, 18 March 2024 21:28 (one week ago) link
This is all after AI nearly kills off humanity and computers are banned so maybe it will come true
― octobeard, Monday, 18 March 2024 21:52 (one week ago) link
So her son is going to start a holy war that kills the half of the population that her ex-husband hadn't already destroyed and then her grandson will live for thousands of years in a symbiosis with a worm? I could see that
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2024 21:59 (one week ago) link
maybe he'll just be sad when Leto (Jared) dies
― 145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 March 2024 22:00 (one week ago) link
do you think she never married Elon because she thought Dune was cool and Jessica wasn’t married
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 18 March 2024 23:09 (one week ago) link
I thought she was brilliant in the Visions - Art Angels run, enjoyed that period a lot. Hard to revisit now.― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, March 7, 2024 10:00 AM
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, March 7, 2024 10:00 AM
this got me to go back to 'realiti' and man ... there's just nothing to say about a song like that by now. i'll drop this link and let ya'll continue the deserved roast.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:02 (one week ago) link
So Cringe Claire thinks she’s a Bene Gesserit, but she’d actually be closer to someone like Lucilla than Jessica.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:39 (one week ago) link
Btw this comes from a 2022 VF interview that has many more cringe-inducing quotes:
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/grimes-cover-story-on-music-and-mars
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:53 (one week ago) link
Jenny from the Besserit
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 02:14 (one week ago) link
I’m not ever claiming to be more intelligent than anyone but C just loves memes and tropes and would love to just meme and trope her way along. And a fair bit of that was recording an album with dune-themed titles while not eating or sleeping
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:31 (one week ago) link
Yeah that album was made 14 years ago and a lot has changed since then, hasn’t it?
This is no longer an “oh so kooky” indie musician shitposting on her tumblr. This is a grown-ass woman saying the child she had with one of the richest assholes on the planet is like the fascist messiah that was promised or whatever.
She might be joking but it’s easy to see why people would be rolling their eyes at that idea nowadays.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:50 (one week ago) link
i wonder if janelle monae still has her back?
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:38 (one week ago) link