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jjusten totally totally OTM and yes you live in the one city other than LA where super-competent gtr instructors like fall out of trees.

ime the first few months are tough and then as your fingers get stronger and smarter everything just opens up and it's beautiful

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 January 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

Dan, the first thing you should get your new teacher to show you is what a Power Chord is.

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

first off- congrats on the guitar!

second- ditto on lessons, between your personal contacts and craigslist there should be no problem finding somebody you vibe with.

finally- i'd start off learning some basic open chords: a, am, c, d, dm, e, em, f, g, g7... you'll find you can play a ton of different songs with basic open chords, and they are a good first dance for your fingers to learn

oh almost forgot the most important advice: Do Not Keep The Guitar In A Case. get a stand, put it on the stand near where you spend lots of time (couch, computer area, etc.) so it is in reach & readily available.

-'case kryptonite' is real, i started playing way more once i started keeping my guitar out.

natlawdp, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

case kryptonite totally real. also, that is good advice to not fuck with b chords...yet.

beachville, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

...or you could drop your low E to D and proceed directly to Soundgarden 'Outshined'.

natlawdp, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

edit: "between your personal contacts and craigslist there should be no problem finding somebody you vibe/DIE with."

sidebar- anybody ever skype guitar lessons?

natlawdp, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol, the guitar is on a stand already but is currently in the back bedroom; I am working up the courage to move it to the living room where I expect my wife will lovingly notice that the wonderful gift she gave me is totally in the fucking way and is going to get knocked over plus it just causes clutter and why do I have to play all the time while she's trying to watch TV, anyway

or maybe I'm just inventing all of that

I did some cursory guitar teacher research and there's something undeniably off-putting about seeing a guitar school with a 20-year-old on their teaching staff, no matter how impressive her performance bio appears to be

I mean, maybe this is totally ageist of me but I do not want to take lessons from someone the age of a hypothetical child I could have had assuming my life had taken a slightly different turn

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

'case kryptonite' - never heard it called that before, but yes, have the guitar and amp set up so that you can pick it up and strum away for ten minutes (which will quickly become two hours but that's another thing).

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

is it wrong that I want to tune the entire guitar a half-step down so I have an instrument that matches my preferred singing range, before I've even learned how to play it

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

you know who tuned a half step down? weezer.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Eb tuning, very 90s :)

goole, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the more i think about it like every fucking alt rock band used that tuning. it was really annoying.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.wfu.edu/~breckers/howtoplayguitar.htm

(๑•̀⌓•́๑) (am0n), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

DJP you can learn the songs of metallica's "load"

goole, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the more i think about it like every fucking alt rock band used that tuning

that's because every fucking alt rock band in the 90s was fronted by a yelpy baritone

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

you should just capo the 11th fret instead

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Then cut the neck off immediately behind the capo.

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure your new teacher, Mick Goodrick, author of The Advancing Guitarist will be very impressed with this instrument

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Eb = Hendrix tuning. Eddie Van Halen too. Stevie Ray too, I think...

natlawdp, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Slash

beachville, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Have you practiced yet this weekend yet, Dan?

Fanfare for the History Mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

haha have I practiced yet

I spent 90 minutes Saturday afternoon playing simple songs from my lesson book on strings 1 and 2, including "Jingle Bells" and "Ode To Joy" (which btw was annoying me because the version in the book was super simple and all in half and quarter notes and without the drop down a fourth at the end of the third line, so I started playing it "right" and using the third string as well).

Then, I started playing the C scale during the 2nd half of the Saints game and kept playing it and random songs until the end of SNL.

Then I started working on really incorporating string 3 yesterday for about an hour but my evening shenanigans really did a number on my fingertips and shoulder.

Need to pick a teacher this week.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

. because my new year's resolution is to learn to play the guitar
i need to get a guitar first.
does anyone want to sell me a guitar for cheap?

bene_gesserit, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

talk to jjj, it's kind of like he does that for a living

no wait, it's EXACTLY like he does that for a living

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair i took guitar lessons for about 6 months in high school, but my teacher was a jazz dude, and that's not the kind of guitar i want to learn to play now (plus i don't remember anything).

bene_gesserit, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

Which shoulder hurts, Dan? I have to admit I'm a little confused.

beachville, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

right shoulder

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

Perhaps one of these arrangements will be more to your liking
http://www.guitarnoise.com/topic/christmas-songs/

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Need to pick a teacher this week.

Why not create a poll from the short list and let IMM pick your teacher for you?

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 January 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

ha that is assuming I have a shortlist; as noted upthread, Boston is DROWNING in music teachers

oh and I moved the guitar into the corner of the living room; no fight!

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

How cheap is cheap bene?

blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 9 January 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Dan, I assume you acted prudently and looked on craigslist asked your opera buddies for recommendations

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 January 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

not yet I haven't, that is today's Facebook project

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

Too bad Peter Frampton found his guitar, bene_gesserit, or maybe you could have bought that one.

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

jjj, under a hundred

bene_gesserit, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Don't tell Dick Destiny that.

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.rondomusic.com/

beachville, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

I have not personally played a Rondo instrument and cannot go to bat for their quality.

beachville, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Any progress? IMM wants to know.

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

I've started playing the C scale up and down across all 6 strings. I've also solicited friends on Facebook for guitar teacher recommendations and have gotten a couple of good leads; one is a Berklee prof and the other is an NEC grad. Self-instruction wise, I'm up to doing "songs" on the third string but I don't want to go too much further than what I'm doing now without seeing a teacher.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Which Berklee prof? Freddie?

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

this dude: http://www.berklee.edu/faculty/detail/eric-byers

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

To think I learned by playing along with records :(

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

How old were you when you started?

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

I admit it was tricky having to get up every so often to wind up the gramophone

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Doesn't work for everyone though - I learned by playing along to records as well and I'm a lousy guitarist!

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

What makes you think I'm not!

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

question: does it make sense to bring examples of the types of things I'm most interested in doing with a guitar into an initial lesson or is that jumping the gun/potentially prejudicing the teacher's ability to show me the fundamentals?

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

I don't see what harm it would do

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely do that.

TEH PNINFOX aka the veen driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

i'm going out on a limb and saying 279.95

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:46 (nine years ago) link

oh no!!! sorry jj, i figured this would be the cheapest -- i didn't realize you had used

gbx, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

No worries dude, if you paid $280 I would have only saved you $25 and I'm so stupid busy that not having one more thing to ship is probably best for me anyway.

Re: setup, check this out and act accordingly:

Public service announcement: how to set up your own guitar/bass and not pay for others to do it...

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

ah, cool post. thanks for that.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

my fingers hurt

gbx, Sunday, 14 December 2014 01:17 (nine years ago) link

went through a bunch of this guy's youtubes, too, the website is v organized: www.justinguitar.com

gbx, Sunday, 14 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Came across that website whilst looking for something else. Seems like it might be useful.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

you know, I never got a teacher

I should change that, especially since I picked the guitar back up this week after a LOOOOOOOOONG hiatus

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

btw I'm learning the lead guitar part to "Ana" by the Pixies, which is fun

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 20 August 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

I can recommend a couple of good teachers who Zoom. They’re west coast based but that may not be a bad thing if you’re looking for post-work hours.

As a crap player who has settled comfortably into the “friend’s older brother who used to play a little” skill level i’m also happy to hop on Zoom 4 u

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

ooh I am interested

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I am bumping this thread because rogermexico totally hooked me up with a teacher who rules and I can now get through/legitimately play the following songs:

Blackbird - The Beatles
Boys Don't Cry - The Cure
Just Like Heaven - The Cure
True Faith - New Order
Get The Message - Electronic
Never Let Me Down Again - Depeche Mode
I Feel You - Depeche Mode
Lovesong - The Cure
The Blood - The Cure
Lullaby - The Cure
Here At The Home - Tribe
Ana - Pixies

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Friday, 13 August 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

<3 this makes me so happy. i've been in the black hole of work and totally dropped the ball on seeing if you guys even connected and I DIEEEE

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

He's teaching me how to play The Rain Song by Zepplin! I never would have been able to imagine this a year ago

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 12:48 (two years ago) link

That's awesome DJP!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

also after retuning my guitar to DGCGCD I want to keep it that way and buy another one, lol

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

yessss…

you can have one good acoustic for life but electric guitars breed like rabbits

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 19 August 2021 04:41 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

i am not a guitar newb but years and years ago someone on this board recommended a guitar "instruction" book that was not about technique but more about philosophy/attitude towards playing guitar. i had it on my to-read list for years but never got around to it and now i can't remember what it was or how to search for it on here. does that ring any bells for anyone?

na (NA), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

it totally does ring a bell but i don't think i have any more leads for you unfortunately

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

oh i think it was "the advancing guitarist" by mick goodrick. the description doesn't sound exactly like what I'm remembering but the cover looks right

na (NA), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Wow, I started this thread 10 years ago

Imagine if I'd gotten a teacher then, I'd be a lot better now

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

Also I did end up buying a d'Angelico guitar from jjjusten

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link


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