tbf when apple sends their 'inspection squads' the owners know well in advance and sweep all the bad stuff under the proverbial carpet
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Monday, 9 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Not defending Apple by any stretch but I suspect all smartphones are built by infants.
― unflushed deuce (Schlafsack), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm starting to get a little fed up with the iPods, which I've previously defended pretty vigorously. iTunes seems to randomly fuck up the tags on certain albums (and I do mean randomly), which causes them to not play on the iPod (it treats each track as though it was 0:00 and cycles through them all). last time I plugged it in it said the iPod was corrupt and needed to be restored, only it would only sync 1000 or so songs and then just freeze up. now every time I plug it in I get a little nervous. this thing is only like 6 months old.
― frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Get it replaced under warranty?
― unflushed deuce (Schlafsack), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
(it treats each track as though it was 0:00 and cycles through them all)fucking hate this. Like 90% of the library on my iPad does this and about 10% on the iPhone. Is there a fix?
― stet, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
sadly I lost all the paperwork but if the thing busts again I'll do this (I wound up fixing it by rebooting everything and letting it sync overnight, and miraculously it got through everything)
my solution to the other problem is to highlight all the "busted" songs, right click, then hit "convert ID3 tags" and switch them to version 1.0 (or whatever). that tends to fix it. if it's really 90% of your library though it's probably something else...mine is just like maybe 1-2% of it
― frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
Ah so probably not a warranty thing. Maybe your itunes library is corrupt at some level? I've never had a problem like that with any device.
― unflushed deuce (Schlafsack), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
My library has been around since iTunes 1.0, so I guess there's a lotta cruft in there, but they should be expecting that. I'm not starting again from scratch now.
― stet, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds like dodgy mp3s to me
― mh, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Happens even on aacs from the store, and it's not the same tracks -- syncing and re-syncing will change which ones play. I hadn't considered it being corrupted tags before, but that makes a lot of sense. On the iPad I think it's the Music app's DB that's snookered. Need to resync it when I have the time
― stet, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
Have you run Consolidate Library at anytime since the beginning?
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
www.spotify.com
― markers, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
I've only run into those issues with files with malformed metadata, or corrupted mp3s that iTunes would glitch on as well.
So the new weirdest issue I've had is that Safari on my iPhone will keep switching the "Accept Cookies" setting to "Never" at random intervals. Anyone ever had that?
― mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
I have a weird glitch where I lose all control of the iPod app on my iPhone - just shows a big pause button, can't browse, can't change anything w/o resetting the phone
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
I get that when I try to open a large (>3gb) playlist. Just locks and dies.
Should I use consolidate library? I assumed that just moved music files into place, and I've always had iTunes organise my files for me
― stet, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
^ditto. specifically the 'recently added' playlist that is on my ipod touch for no discernible reason.
― shaane, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
its not that. the last one was "Einzelhaft" by Falco which I've had for like 8 years. no rhyme or reason to it
whats frustrating about it is that my very first iPod (which I bought 7 years ago!) had this problem and it still hasn't been fixed. also there's a volume glitch if you set a track to play at a high volume (when you skip to that track, the volume will adjust first, then a half second later the track changes, so a 'normal' volume track will murder your eardrums) that's been around forever. I mean it really does not seem that hard to fix.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
tbh take your shit to the genius bar, they will probably shrug and give you a replacement or something
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
it's not a hardware problem tho -- it has happened for me w/multiple iPods, iPhones and an iPad. It's definitely software, and geniuses going to be no use w/that.
― stet, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
try zapping the PRAM
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
there's a program out there called beaTunes that is apparently just a "re-do" of iTunes, does anyone have experience with that?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
apparently just a "re-do" of iTunes
what does this even mean
― mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
made primarily to sync with the iPod, uses the same structures, tags, etc., but better?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:12 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark
you can do this on the iphone?
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
need a new Mac... mine is almost ten years old! the big question is whether it will recognize all of my flac files that were encoded on a PowerPC Mac. if there's no problems, I'm gonna put the money down on a 2008 MacBook this afternoon.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
There should be no problems, considering flac files are platform-independent. The only time I've ever heard of audio files worrying about platform is non-lossy archaic stuff like aiff files, where data could be stored big-endian or little-endian depending on processor architecture.
Think about it this way: all data will be fine, as long as you have programs that read that format. Applications, no.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:52 AM (40 minutes ago)
probably not but it might be worth trying!
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
its not that. the last one was "Einzelhaft" by Falco which I've had for like 8 years. no rhyme or reason to it― frogbs, Tuesday, January 10, 2012 2:12 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is it FLAC or MP3? reason I ask is FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. what this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. it's probably eroded completely over time
― eh what can you do, that's just how max is (cozen), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
my god. is there any service or product that I can buy to prevent this decay? HELP!
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Same happens with jpeg btw. When i look at the pictures I downloaded from the ~world wide web~ in 1995 there is only abt 32k left in them these days
― stet, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
ha, all my mp3s are on a SSD = i am safe. that terabyte of SSD is the best purchase i've ever made... and only $3000
― koogs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
Good luck with that $3000 pile of crap, it ain't gonna save you. You need one of the new $14,000 models specifically designed to counteract the effects of the rotational velocidensity. I'm not sure I completely understand the mechanics behind it, but basically it rotates the files in a reverse loop system to fight the degradation. Works great so far, but I've only had it for two years. I've only seen a degradation of about 2kbps MAX on all of the files I've spot checked, some of which do go back to 2001.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but even then, it's still a SSD and they haven't figured out how to turn off the inertial compensation now that they mostly lack moving parts. I installed a SSD in a laptop that used to have a drive that required inertial compensation, and three months later? Dead SSD.
I've heard most manufacturers aren't even using a variation of their motherboards that lack IC (or have it turned off) and that is why the SSD failure rate is so high.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
Well, yeah, I guess I've been fortunate so far, but I do dread the day I can't turn mine on.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
I've been thinking about this and I realized something - this always happens to pop music, but it's never happened to anything simple or ambient. I think it's because albums like Music for Airports have more 0's in the bitfile than 1's (because there is a lot of empty space and only a few notes), and the 0's, being rounded, tend to not be effected so much by the rotational velocidensity. So I think I'm going to start replacing my MP3s, starting with Yes and King Crimson, then stuff like Devo and Gary Numan, and so on in that order. Thanks for the help
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
That's just nonsense.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has taken an awesome turn.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
Afroman Fixed Point Theorem: all mp3s erode but converge to "Because I Got High"
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
Good luck with that $3000 pile of crap, it ain't gonna save you. You need one of the new $14,000 models specifically designed to counteract the effects of the rotational velocidensity.
What crap. All you need is to draw a green texta line around the outside of your computer. That will stop the bits seeping out.
― unflushed deuce (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
That reverse loop system is fine, but it won't do shit if you take your drive south of the equator or cross the International Date Line from east to west. Just ask those F-22 pilots
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 12 January 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone listen to this week's This American Life about the place where they make Apple products in Shenzhen? Sobering to say the least.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
non-lossy archaic stuff like aiff files, where data could be stored big-endian or little-endian depending on processor architecture.
this is exactly what my wave editor uses :(
had to postpone until tomorrow, will report back.
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 January 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
aiff isn't archaic!!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, not really. I was being somewhat backhanded on that. The thing to remember is that most apps will open files regardless, since locking to a single platform is completely ridiculius.
― mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
*ridiculous
Can we bitch about how Lion won't Bind to an active directory domain unless the moon is full and you sprinkle the blood of a virgin unicorn on your keyboard?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 12 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
I don't believe that's true
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/01/video-pros-apple-needs-to-acknowledge-the-pro-industry-and-fast.ars
― caek, Monday, 16 January 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
Holy shit, I'm surprised Apple's being so blowoffy about something so huge and crucial
― lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
i know very little about video editing but not being able to create or read an EDL seems..... utterly bonkers?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link