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tbh take your shit to the genius bar, they will probably shrug and give you a replacement or something

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a hardware problem tho -- it has happened for me w/multiple iPods, iPhones and an iPad. It's definitely software, and geniuses going to be no use w/that.

stet, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

try zapping the PRAM

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

there's a program out there called beaTunes that is apparently just a "re-do" of iTunes, does anyone have experience with that?

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

apparently just a "re-do" of iTunes

what does this even mean

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

made primarily to sync with the iPod, uses the same structures, tags, etc., but better?

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

try zapping the PRAM

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:12 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

you can do this on the iphone?

bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

need a new Mac... mine is almost ten years old! the big question is whether it will recognize all of my flac files that were encoded on a PowerPC Mac. if there's no problems, I'm gonna put the money down on a 2008 MacBook this afternoon.

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

There should be no problems, considering flac files are platform-independent. The only time I've ever heard of audio files worrying about platform is non-lossy archaic stuff like aiff files, where data could be stored big-endian or little-endian depending on processor architecture.

Think about it this way: all data will be fine, as long as you have programs that read that format. Applications, no.

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

try zapping the PRAM

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:12 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

you can do this on the iphone?

― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:52 AM (40 minutes ago)

probably not but it might be worth trying!

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

its not that. the last one was "Einzelhaft" by Falco which I've had for like 8 years. no rhyme or reason to it
― frogbs, Tuesday, January 10, 2012 2:12 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is it FLAC or MP3? reason I ask is FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. what this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. it's probably eroded completely over time

eh what can you do, that's just how max is (cozen), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

my god. is there any service or product that I can buy to prevent this decay? HELP!

bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Same happens with jpeg btw. When i look at the pictures I downloaded from the ~world wide web~ in 1995 there is only abt 32k left in them these days

stet, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

ha, all my mp3s are on a SSD = i am safe. that terabyte of SSD is the best purchase i've ever made... and only $3000

koogs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Good luck with that $3000 pile of crap, it ain't gonna save you. You need one of the new $14,000 models specifically designed to counteract the effects of the rotational velocidensity. I'm not sure I completely understand the mechanics behind it, but basically it rotates the files in a reverse loop system to fight the degradation. Works great so far, but I've only had it for two years. I've only seen a degradation of about 2kbps MAX on all of the files I've spot checked, some of which do go back to 2001.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, but even then, it's still a SSD and they haven't figured out how to turn off the inertial compensation now that they mostly lack moving parts. I installed a SSD in a laptop that used to have a drive that required inertial compensation, and three months later? Dead SSD.

I've heard most manufacturers aren't even using a variation of their motherboards that lack IC (or have it turned off) and that is why the SSD failure rate is so high.

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Well, yeah, I guess I've been fortunate so far, but I do dread the day I can't turn mine on.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

is it FLAC or MP3? reason I ask is FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. what this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. it's probably eroded completely over time

I've been thinking about this and I realized something - this always happens to pop music, but it's never happened to anything simple or ambient. I think it's because albums like Music for Airports have more 0's in the bitfile than 1's (because there is a lot of empty space and only a few notes), and the 0's, being rounded, tend to not be effected so much by the rotational velocidensity. So I think I'm going to start replacing my MP3s, starting with Yes and King Crimson, then stuff like Devo and Gary Numan, and so on in that order. Thanks for the help

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

That's just nonsense.

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

this thread has taken an awesome turn.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Afroman Fixed Point Theorem: all mp3s erode but converge to "Because I Got High"

Euler, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

Good luck with that $3000 pile of crap, it ain't gonna save you. You need one of the new $14,000 models specifically designed to counteract the effects of the rotational velocidensity.

What crap. All you need is to draw a green texta line around the outside of your computer. That will stop the bits seeping out.

unflushed deuce (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

That reverse loop system is fine, but it won't do shit if you take your drive south of the equator or cross the International Date Line from east to west. Just ask those F-22 pilots

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 12 January 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone listen to this week's This American Life about the place where they make Apple products in Shenzhen? Sobering to say the least.

polyphonic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

non-lossy archaic stuff like aiff files, where data could be stored big-endian or little-endian depending on processor architecture.

this is exactly what my wave editor uses :(

had to postpone until tomorrow, will report back.

sleeve, Thursday, 12 January 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link

aiff isn't archaic!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, not really. I was being somewhat backhanded on that. The thing to remember is that most apps will open files regardless, since locking to a single platform is completely ridiculius.

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

*ridiculous

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

Can we bitch about how Lion won't Bind to an active directory domain unless the moon is full and you sprinkle the blood of a virgin unicorn on your keyboard?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 12 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I don't believe that's true

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

Holy shit, I'm surprised Apple's being so blowoffy about something so huge and crucial

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

i know very little about video editing but not being able to create or read an EDL seems..... utterly bonkers?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

is it really that huge and crucial to Apple? The income from FCP must be like two days of iPad sales.

agree this is a total shitshow tho

stet, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Well huge and crucial to an entire industry, I meant

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

the raw numbers may indicate that but I can't help but feel that some part of apple's success is due to the idea that 'creative types' all prefer to work with macs. maintaining a strong presence in the video editing industry probably doesn't translate that much into direct sales but probably amplifies their 'soft power,' whatever that's worth. maybe some MBA types got at apple's balance sheet and were all "yeah, we gotta cut this because it's not pulling its weight."

dayo, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

would think this is a move to force some kinda sea change in how film is "done"? even tho production companies still need to work with tape, the trend is clearly moving towards an entirely digital workflow.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

and with FCP finally being affordable to the masses, I wonder if apple is banking on YouTube/Vimeo being the distribution platforms of the future. if Hollywood goes back to avid, big deal---loads more hobbyists ("creative types") might plump for FCP just cuz.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

that's fine but as far as i know you still need to do post-production work in an online editing suite, and EDLs are the roadmap they use to assemble all your footage from whatever source it came from (digital, tape, film, whatever) - of course this "knowledge" is ca. 10 years ago and maybe online suites are obsolete already?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

Came to this thread to say I thought the MagSafe adapter charger was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread but even that thing has gone dodgy on me

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

do you have the old one or the new one with the metal and strain relief cable

dayo, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

xp
"Online editing is an older post-production linear video editing process that is performed in the final stage of a video production. It occurs after offline editing. For the most part online editing has been replaced by video editing software that operate on non-linear editing systems (NLE)."

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

well slap my face and blow me sideways

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

I bought it about a year ago, dayo. The cable doesn't seem too high tech other than the adapter, so maybe that's it.

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

The troubleshooting support page suggests that there is a software update that improves interaction with the charger so I updated. That and cleaned the pins off with a q-tip.

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

my chargers work a lot better when the cat doesn't chew on the cables

mh, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

My cat prefers pipe cleaners :)

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

fucking itunes match mang

I just want to copy glenn gould's goldberg variations to my iphone

I can see it sat there on my HDD so stop telling me it's only available in the cloud

in fact, it's NOT available in the cloud cos it's not been uploaded yet

it's 50 minutes long and it'll take an age to upload. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

cozen, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Software update maybe helped. Who knew? *fingers crossed*

What We Did on Our POLLidays (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

my 3gs has just developed the apparently infamous "dead strip" :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link


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