Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

And Austra.

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

i really don't know what i think of this album

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

really digging this myself

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

yeh this is excellent

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

^ Also of Montreal.

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

so she made this on garageband, huh?

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Really can't believe we have come to a point where evoking the names Stacy Q and Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam results in a positive fucking review. I give up.

I love this album cover!

http://www.tellallyourfriendspr.com/sites/default/files/GrimesVisions.jpg

yeah, is awesome. post in the best of 2012 thread!

after being completely underwhelmed by anything i heard of hers before this record (i'm kind of with lex on the voice thing), i'm really enjoying "oblivion" and "circumabient"

Fucking adore this record.

Funny that Alex in Montreal referred to Braids upthread as this album strikes me as something of an electronic equivalent, simultaneously tuneful and spacious and drifting (whereas I think Juliana Barwick is a bit of a misleading point of comparison).

"Skin" esp. is wonderful.

i gave this a few more tries and while there's nothing i actively dislike about her music, neither is there anything hooking me back in - it's all vaguely "interesting", also very unmemorable and lite.

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

the cover of this record is really really bad. if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme (which i really love), at least do it well!

ripoff Sacred Bones serifs + some Cyrillic lorem ipsum + some 1994-bad-sci-fi-book-cover graphics + giant in-class notebook doodle-looking thing = a mess and I like it

Yeah, Tim. The BRAIDS reference was not accidental.

Visions is getting a 4AD release in the rest of the world, but Grimes and BRAIDS and Blue Hawaii a couple of other bands in the same general aesthetic universe were all on the same local label for a few years based out of Montreal.

A bunch of their early stuff is available for download by donation at the Arbutus website, including Geidi Primes and Halfaxa, the first two Grimes albums, and Blue Hawaii's Blooming Summer.

Not that that necessarily implies that they sound *the same* but their music is definitely in conversation with each other.

And 'Skin' continues to be the standout for me - the first Grimes track that's hit me emotionally.

(That's not a backhanded compliment - I love the rest of her stuff, but Skin really gets to me.)

Other standouts: Infinite <3 without fulfillment, Genesis, Oblivion, Vowels = space and time, Be a Body (侘寂). Possibly Nightmusic.

thanks for the links and suggestions, alex!

Of the first two Grimes album, I think Halfaxa is a bit more like this one - it's the clear transition to the kind of thing she's doing now, but I love Geidi Primes - it's a little less cohesive, but there's a lot of cool stuff going on.

The Blue Hawaii tape was one of my favourite albums of 2010 - the standout is 'Blue Gowns'. Blue Hawaii's vocalist = the lead vocalist from BRAIDS which should help determine if it's your thing or if you should steer clear - (aka this is a warning for Lex)

The Geidi Primes cover is also really lovely:

http://hangout.altsounds.com/geek/gars/images/1/2/8/3/8/tumblr_l0qlcwbcft1qz8wqzo1_400.png

Halfaxa got another similar weird "skull" motif cover everywhere else, but in Canada we got a photo negative of a topless woman with a bunch of purple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QGXPM_BonA#!

Just found this - apparently there was a re-release of 'Halfaxa' with this track tossed in the middle of it and I never found out? This is lovely.

laurel halo did an awesome remix of that track

And naturally it's not available anywhere but Europe. Dammit. (The Original. Not the Remix)

if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme

well, it does "rip off" the sacred bones design scheme (general layout, fonts), but also pushes beyond it in interesting ways. and the drawing is wonderful. one of my favorite album covers of the year so far.

Skin is killing me. Be a Body (侘寂) too. all of them really.

I think the album really shows post-everything/Internet music doesn't have to just be some senseless exercise in referencing. like there's the Mr. Bungle/Girl Talk-style, 'yo look what just threw in' approach, but it can be done more selectively. like anything is available, but then you can pick out a finite set of elements with more purpose. this feels really cohesive and harmonious to me, like there's a logic to the aesthetic system she creates, and real emotional resonance (really gets to me actually). could probably work out some cultural meaning in this beyond just 'hey post-modernism waka waka'

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:15 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The (excellent) Frankie Rose album is much more in Julianna Barwick territory than this is, IMO.

She comes across as tremendously likable in the p4k interview I think - love how she invokes all this hi falutin stuff almost inevitably to have a go at herself, and she seems to anticipate a lot of the criticisms that people might want to throw at her without seeming like that's what she set out to do.

Boucher, I mean.

Smoke weed, listen to Mariah Carey. Hilarious, and awesome.

I for one appreciate yr detailed analysis here!

Watched a clip of the ‘meltdown,’ tbh if it was anyone but Grimes with the Musk/Nazi/Skynet shit it probably would have been charming.

https://x.com/itspocketrocket/status/1779359580864356620?s=46

She should have had SALEM open for her

I'm sorry but how to you lose control of the BPM?

This feels like an argument for rockism.

Is it? It feels like it should be a standard question in dance music when beat matching!

I guess my question is, why not beat match by ear? Is that a wild idea in 2024?

the first few min of the set sounded very good but in retrospect also felt like a train barely clinging to the tracks, i def wasn't under the impression she prepared for it (like an incredibly smart kid who thinks they can bullshit their way through a paper.)

to be fair to the robot crab spider thing, she did ride in on it (awkwardly and slowly) -- it wasn't nearly cool enough to justify its continued presence but i felt good knowing that if this creature is the best the evil tech companies can come up with, we'll be pretty set in the upcoming man vs machine wars.

she showed up at some point last night during someone else's set, my friend thought it was her new fella's gig but idk.

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seriously. i had a whole heartfelt post written up about how this should sting extra as a former nightclub dj and such a huge fan of her music. it should, but honestly who didn’t expect something like this? the joke is clearly on us, guys. why shouldn't i just shitpost memes in response? i genuinely hope she's okay longterm. but in the interim, you get what you give afaic.

Her claim is that the assistant fucked up the beat markers.

Poor markers.

I traded in my Art Angels vinyl for seven bucks in store credit the other day. I'm sure I have music by objectively worse people in my record collection, but I can't deal with the unrelenting, embarrassing disappointment.

cyber influencer cosplaying as a musician, at this point

maybe understandable / acceptable if yr playing to ten mates in a bar, but beyond unprofessional / unbelievable to be so badly prepared in such a scenario.

a five year old could learn to do what she was trying to do in an hour. maybe two hours if also learning how to manage recordbox.

of course it's all actually a win as despite having some new haters she has managed to generate masses of brand awareness over this.

well put

If it is has happened before obv she should have initiated a CAPA plan and implemented a solution with the appropriate external and internal stakeholders

sounds like she did do an appearance at her boyfriend’s set that went fine! maybe she can consult him on where the beat sync button is

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlanPartridge/comments/1c4au6h/grimes_during_her_coachella_set/

https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/grimes-set-technical-difficulty-coachella-19402352.php

Such bullshit blaming her team. Her recent “dj set” on Mexico was similarly riddled with mistakes. Doesn’t seem like she gives enough of a fuck. It takes like a minute to analyze songs on rekordbox. Sounds like she can’t beatmatch or divide by two.

Her appearance at Anyma’s set was fine… if just standing there and doing some half assed performance at some animations is fine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grimezs/comments/1c4d13x/he_really_gets_her_and_the_level_of_effort_shes/

Tbh given her past reputation as a Weird Indie Girl she could so easily go all out on the costume design/clothing at her shows and hire actual designers for original stuff but instead we’re getting not one but TWO colours of the Malenia Elden Ring 3D printed helmet that she can’t see OR mix a DJ set with

Am I hallucinating or did she start playing some vivaldi at one point?

I wouldn’t be surprised if she mistakenly started playing an audiobook at this point.

Von Mises narrated by Renato Marciano

(grimes presses play)

(hitler speech starts playing)

HEY HOW DID THAT GET IN THERE

Malenia Elden Ring 3D printed helmet

i wonder if the malenia thing is a dog whistle at this point, since the character is clearly modeled after the wagnerian brunnhilde