DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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tbf it does need changing. Whether they'll actually make it any better is another matter...

(also the kids are probably not actually going to find a CS approach to exciting things like algorithms and data structures any more interesting, but it might help if they knew what computer science actually is, before returning to the Word and Excel which will be infinitely more useful to most of them. hell, I've probably used the Excel I learnt at school more than anything I learnt in a comp. sci. degree, and I'm a programmer)

(I was also going to say that it would have helped me to know what "computer science" actually was before I thought I'd go and study it for 3 years, but going by the recent graduates we've had working here it could mean almost anything at university level in the UK anyway)

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Instead of children bored out of their minds being taught how to use Word or Excel by bored teachers, we could have 11-year-olds able to write simple 2D computer animations," he said.

yeah this is kind of glib but fundamentally otm.

caek, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

I wish I knew a bit more Excel tbh

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

"Instead of children bored out of their minds being taught how to play guitar or piano by bored teachers, we could have 11-year-olds able to write simple mobile phone ringtones" he said.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

using office apps probably ought to be a separate subject, Computer Science doesn't come into it. having said that, i've never used Excel in my life except when i've been teaching somebody else to use it so.

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

proposed title for the Word/Powerpoint/Excel curriculum: "Your Adult Life is Going to Suck"

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

not many job ads asking for experience of creating simple 2d computer animations ime

(also my kids already do simple animation alongside the office stuff)

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

this could be great so long as they are able to get teachers who can do it!

tbf my memories of being taught logo were a bit like being taught to create simple 2d computer animations a la Scratch.

vision creation newgod (c sharp major), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

Get some ex-squaddies in, teach 'em some simple 2d computer animation and simple 2d discipline

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

7 million smart phones were activated on Christmas Day and Angry Birds was download 6.5 million times on the same day so I suppose simple 2d animation might be a better earner than learning pivot tables.

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

They should make Excel part of the Maths GCSE curriculum. Word can fuck itself though tbh.

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

(also my kids already do simple animation alongside the office stuff)

Mine too. Gove seems to be slagging off the whole of ICT teaching before he's even got anything to replace it - he's quite the motivator.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

all the ict teachers i know slag off the ict syllabus fwiw

caek, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

(i know 2 ict teachers so i am obviously v qualified in this area)

caek, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

(also my kids already do simple animation alongside the office stuff)
Scottish schools don't have ICT the same way English/Welsh ones do. The Scottish curriculum is much more CS-focused, in the way Gove wants to replace ICT.

There are also usually separate subjects (at my school it was called Secretarial Studies!) that teach Word/Excel.

stet, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/lib-dems-call-voters-nutters/

Liberal Democrats in Sefton, Merseyside, have been accused of slurring a number of local residents as “nutters” on a document highlighting people to whom party literature should not be delivered to.

http://cdn.politicalscrapbook.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/sefton_lib_dems_nutters.jpg

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

xp They dressed it up for us. Ours was "Business Studies", but was just touch-typing, excel, etc. Computing was for the hard core BASIC coding of text adventures where all paths led to insults, creating animated dick gifs, etc.

CraigG, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

We had a year of "Word Processing"; utterly boring at the time but in retrospect learning to touch-type was one of the more useful things I learned at school wrt my life now.

questino (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

I don't get it, of all the batshit/stupid/counterproductive/enraging/outright evil government announcements this one seems pretty uncontroversial?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

It's not even the worst thing they've said today.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/127971098.jpg

^ just think what fun kids could have turning this into an animated gif

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

God bless our undemocratic and antiquated second chamber.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/23779/

"Hey, we really are the scum you think we are!"

(I like how they use £1.6bn/5 years, as £320m/year would make them seem like miserly penny-pinchers kicking Tiny Tim's crutches away)

carson dial, Thursday, 12 January 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

"You are HOW old? Will Smith's daughter Willow looks well beyond her 11 years on the red carpet in yellow gown"

"Aren't they a bit short for your age? Teenage sisters Kendall and Kylie Jenner slip into thigh-skimming mini dresses"

Blech.

windorne grey frogs (dowd), Monday, 16 January 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

Think this cunto might not have joined the right party in the first place:

Mr Bozier, 27, who now runs his own digital business, said: "The Labour Party today is not the Labour Party I joined six years ago when Tony Blair was leader.

"Blair and New Labour had the reforming zeal to radically change our public services. It was a pro-aspiration, pro-business party, which made sense to me and to the country. The party has moved so far away from it that I no longer wish to be a part of it. At the same time, Cameron's policies have picked up that reforming zeal and are continuing in the spirit of Blair, so I have decided to join the Conservatives."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/senior-labour-adviser-defects-to-the-tories-6290220.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

lol

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 07:28 (twelve years ago) link

LOL @ Gove. So stuuuuupid.

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Monday, 16 January 2012 07:53 (twelve years ago) link

The Gove thing has to be a set-up for the Queen to gracefully decline a new yacht thereby proving that we are, in fact, all in it together.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 16 January 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

xpost it's more "support whoever's winning" re Bozier.

Mark G, Monday, 16 January 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

Queen in "fuckin' avin it son!" shocka!

Mark G, Monday, 16 January 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

Fully support everyone on ILX chipping in to buy a massive fuckoff yacht, but only if Matt DC can play balearic yacht techno on it!

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

Mr Gove wrote: "In spite, and perhaps because of the austere times, the celebration should go beyond those of previous jubilees and mark the greater achievement that the diamond anniversary represents.

Repulsive little twerp

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

New yacht for the Queen? We're all on it together.

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

Let it sail close to the shore so we can all wave!

(too soon? My name is Frankie Boyle good evening!)

Mark G, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

2.30pm: Michael Gove, the education secretary, takes questions in the Commons.
Should be good.

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

It's not the arrogance that appals me about Gove there, it's the sycophancy of the smarmy little man.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 16 January 2012 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's a given.

Mark G, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

Tory cabinet minister arrogant, insensitive and a royalist sycophant.

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

He also charged the taxpayer for eight coffee spoons and cake forks, worth £5.95 each, four breakfast knives and a woven door mat worth £30.
Makes his £240 coffee table seem a reasonable claim.

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, how would you expect someone earning £64,000 a year to effectively discharge their parliamentary duties without some free fucking spoons?

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

wtf is a 'breakfast knife'?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 16 January 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

things you don't have to wash up before dinner.

Mark G, Monday, 16 January 2012 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

First mention of Michael Gove on ILX is prescient.

Michael Gove is a cockfarmer.
― Tom, Friday, 26 October 2001 01:00 (10 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 January 2012 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair £60m is only a quid each and i dislike the queen less than some of my work colleagues.

Alan Shearer (ken c), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

as long as i get to sign a massive birthday card

Alan Shearer (ken c), Monday, 16 January 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

£60m would be the cost of the boat - I suspect there might be some ongoing costs associated with it. Of course I'm sure the Queen wouldn't mind if it was branded up like a football shirt if it saved us all a few bob.

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

Take the £60mn out of the salaries of MPs, and double as much out of the millionaires in the cabinet.

If that means generations of their families starving to death, so be it.

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 12:19 (twelve years ago) link


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