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totes xp to dayo

def for bw movies too. like the first time I saw dr strangelove, the black and whiteitude was just there. seeing it again recently I was just amazed by how artfully composed and deliberate each shot was

oh yeah! I watched citizen kane for the first time recently and WOW

http://i.imgur.com/tZd7Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LnhlR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MF4X4.jpg

dang

interesting to me that my generation (IMO) grew up thinking that black and white films weren't just not in color, but also lo-fi, just because we only saw them on small tube TVs via shitty transfer and with terrible audio.

kinda pumped to explore blu ray versions of classic flicks

hahaha, i remember seeing ck for the first time a couple of years ago and being so blown away by how modern it still felt, and also there's always that surprising thing when super-cannon things are actually great. like idk i just expect certain things to be massive chores in the end. but i mentioned this to a girl in my class and she said she had had the exact same experience and then it became this thing that this weird cult of citizen kane happened in that class. i mean, obviously this is the most celebrated movie of all time possibly, the ridiculous part was how it felt like we had discovered how good it was in spite of that. like i just wanted to tell people "no i know you know how good its supposed to be, but its like REALLY GOOD"

is it on the netflix I wonder

thinking that black and white films weren't just not in color, but also lo-fi

have had this experience with just "old films" period. They always had such terrible looking video/television transfers that I thought people in, say, the 70s had awful cinematographers. pan and scan was no doubt related to this too.

Canonical Works That Aren't A Chore would be a good ILE thread.

I saw a restored print of Vertigo years ago, that was a holy shit experience. Not sure anything has ever looked as good as that movie.

I've seen vertigo in 35mm, holy shit agreed

vertigo is one of of only three or four american hitchcock movies i've never seen

fave movie of all time. see it in a theater whenever I can. boy oh boy do I love vertigo!
ps. restored looks good, but original print (cared for) looks even better!

i have never seen a hitchcock film!

yes you have

can't believe I said "boy oh boy" ...who am I??

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/life-and-kodak-remembered/

the salsa dancing pic is pretty exquisite imo

ha i saw a weird digi restoration of vertigo recently that looked like it was presented in glorious jpeg-2000, it was really strange. def a gorgeous film though; the greens. in the film thread, morbs linked to a 2011 repertory recap that singles out an old marilyn monroe film notable primarily for its print, which i wouldn't mind catching; i sorta get fascinated w/cinematography when it's a rich/inseparable part of the film - can't really think of anyone with whose work this is the case more than kieslowski - more than when it's just an aesthetic bonus (cf that tom ford flick), but it can be nice just to see stuff that's beautifully shot. one of my least fav wong kar wai movies is one of the most striking things i've ever seen:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/clubhouse1/ashes_of_time/07.png
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1006/41934757rz5.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/clubhouse1/ashes_of_time/10.png
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1215/12988917lj5.jpg

i think i had the 'this is so modern!' reaction w/stuff like the misfits, which is kinda a weird text anyway but looks like it's from space or something

http://www.ernst-haas.com/archive/misfits/misfits06.jpg

it took me a while before I realized that there are different 'kinds' of B&W pictures. like, prior to seriously engaging with the medium, they all 'looked' the same to me or perhaps mentally I just conceptualized them all in one big category of 'black and white' in my brain. now, after being told that there are different ways that B&W photographs can look, I can 'see' the difference, and it's very hard to unsee.

yeah this is so true!, & it's hard to think it isn't tangled up with the hierarchy of images related to how colour was phased in as an 'advance'. looking at the life essay you linked is interesting, the scans of the slightly distressed photos are really soft, almost sepia. looking at any of this stuff, like the gednes archive linked above, makes me feel like i should be a better photographer, stop fucking around shooting 100 speed film indoors & getting blank prints back.

ps milo, re:

Canonical Works That Aren't A Chore would be a good ILE thread.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 January 2012 02:23 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

try to catch the bfi rerelease of l'atalante if it's playing near you, it's great to watch

http://books.google.com/books?id=rEoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA88&ots=IOvOjkZnlz&dq=grey%20villet%20%20Lash%20of%20Success&pg=PA88#v=onepage&q=grey%20villet%20%20Lash%20of%20Success&f=false

the grey villet photo essay mentioned in that lens post

i think of the subsequent creepy ads i pick 'the proving ground', p102, as the narrow victor over the weird auto-syrup dog food bowl

Schlump, thanks so much for that 'Looking fast' link, fantastic stuff there!

yes!, it's interesting. i generally think 'familiar but finite things' vs 'endless sprawling potential newness' is a p big debate ~of~our~time~ & it is pretty well embodied by books versus the rabbit hole of the internet.

hey btw le bateau ivre, i can't remember seeing any phots of yours on ilp, do you drop in here much?

I'm a big photography lover, buy way too much photography books I can't afford and go to exhibitions etc. I don't take much photographs though, or at least don't share much. I think only once I shared some here. So yeah I'm probably a lurker here, but soaking up all the wonderful links and photographs and discussion!

ha i'm glad, i feel bad for asking, it feels like maybe a product of how cosy ILP is, WAIT IS SOMEONE ELSE READING THIS EVERYONE BE QUIET I THINK THE CURTAIN JUST MOVED.

cool beans anyway. post some phots if you ever feel inclined, i think everyone here just likes looking at photos of other places/lives as much as anything.

i think also that a few people decided to "get into film" at around the same time and this ushered in the particular era of ilp we're in now

I don't have that incrowd feeling with ILP at all Schlump, I feel fully at home! :)

yeah its super nice

it's still surprising to me to see an ILP thread that has 50+ new answers regularly

oh sure, i didn't so much mean cosy as in cliquey, more just familiar, like the brady bunch setup that is i love vinyl, etc. i generally don't know who everyone is on other threads, let alone feel familiar enough to sense stranger danger when someone new is around. there was that thread about why people use ILX/what it means to use ILX recently; how well being able to think about & see photography here is a v good example of its appeal

gbx: szarkowski published a book of his photographs before he became famous photo critic. it's title? the face of minnesota.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Fgw6ArCYqv8C&lpg=PP1&dq=the%20face%20of%20minnesota&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=the%20face%20of%20minnesota&f=false

omg thank you

i have been feeling v minnesotan indeed lately

also: ordered

i just watched gus van sant's restless, feat:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9314/vlcsnap2012012201h07m57.png

two other eggleston things; makes me want chromes real bad

chromes looks fantastic

did you guys know that that americansuburbx site is some guy's blog?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UC02bm7ZxM

this photo is great; it's a crop, slightly, but so classic:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/1/27/1327695388947/Clinton-and-Obama-007.jpg

obama's collar is somehow like something out of margritte, where it's the platonic ideal of a man's collar. hills looks like a composite of the characters and statuses in cassavetes' faces, the earring & the expensive jacket

like it reminds me of a raymond pettibon drawing or something.

i thought these were really interesting, too. i guess i like seeing this sort of thing lauded because it's so obviously for content & feel & gesture, etc, which is as close as i am going to get to taking good photos.

ha oops: these

http://theexposureproject.blogspot.com/2007/07/liyu-liubo-13-months-in-year-of-dog.html

I think the full set is here

http://fotofestbeijing.visualserver.com/Image.cfm?nK=683&nL=0&nS=0&i=5864

http://www.talkingbarnacles.com/

are you guys into this

yeah this is v nice
this & the old photo essay stuff posted here makes me want to take more sequences of shots, they look v good, here.

Do other people check out LPV Magazine? I've sometimes liked it, sometimes not, but it's often pretty decent, and the regular digest that's been a thing in 2012 is nice: http://lpvmagazine.com/2012/01/the-digest-–-sunday-january-29th-2012/
Hope it keeps up.
I love those Talking Barnacles pictures. Been on that site all day.

that url didn't paste right btw, best to copy and paste

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/photobooth/2012/01/magnum-contact-sheets.html

Ties in a bit with contact sheets I guess: since I've been enjoying Talking Barnacles and Kate Hutchinson's photos so much, I find myself really wanting to take MORE picture and display them more serially, rather than doing the stand-alone image thing. I like the way that it deflates the epic-ness of any individual picture. Kinda helps to destroy the illusion of the pinpointed perfect moment and 'perfect photograph' in favor of just a series of moments that just happened to be the ones captured in a particular place. Deflates the 'definitiveness' of pictures. I like that. Of course I don't know if I have an interesting enough daily life to sustain something like that, and my instinct is on the side of taking fewer photos (outside of short bursts that can run through a roll in a minute or so, which *does* happen occasionally). I like the looser composition of a lot of the barnacles shots too.
in other words, schlump otm

I haven't enough film in bulk, nor an organized workflow for it so I'm one of those guys that tip toes through a roll over the course of a month or more

dunno about organized workflow, but I just found a place selling fuji superia 400 for $2.49/36-exposure roll. this makes a big difference re: film supply.