fatima al qadiri ILM edition, (+ ayshay + future brown)

You approach it without baggage - see also Rustie, Ikonika etc. I find those connotations a bit problematic really.

why problematic?

like the whole DIS/nguzunguzu visual aesthetic so far has been really corny maya 3d renderings circa 1998 reappropriated for hipster use, don't see why appropriating the sound of that is off limits

i guess the "sounds like a videogame soundtrack" works a bit like how the Ghost Box aesthetic mines sounds that were buried in your subconscious in your childhood. I can understand being wary of music that draws on childhood nostalgia for its power, but i don't think that's really happening here. but i'm 33 so this doesn't really sound like the games i played as a kid. so while i got your playstation comment, i didn't really think "this sounds like playstation" when i first heard this.

It's problematic for me for the same reason I wouldn't put on an orchestral film soundtrack when I could listen to a symphony, it just feels kind of naff. Also when I play video games I usually turn the sound down and put other music on.

Also (and I know this is a bit unfair on Al Qadiri since she obviously knows what she's doing with her source material better than most of these losers) I'm getting a bit of a naff 90s hippie smoking compilation vibe from the whole aesthetic. Possibly the album art isn't helping here.

that could be a really good poll, actually, to see how many film soundtracks ILM owns

idk if I would call it 90s hippie smoking compilation, more like purposeful hipster 'I don't care' transposed onto computers

http://i.imgur.com/S6V44.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uNxj6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e3MhE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dm5Ex.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_pFkO9Qep8

maybe this aesthetic is 'in' right now

heh i didnt realize she had her album release party at the new museum, which, of course

is that the one on the bowery?

which, yeah, of course

it's worth noting that FAQ has written the global.wav column for DIS for a couple years

http://dismagazine.com/blog/global-wav/

Genre-Specfic Xperience remix package set for release on March 27, which will include reworks from Kingdom, Girl Unit, Ikonika, DJ Rashad, and more.

o_o

:o

I approve of this mining of my geeky heritage

this "corpcore" remix is pretty wild! not sure if this is part of the release that's coming out on the 27th but very excited to hear the rest of them.

http://soundcloud.com/shockdiamond/fatima-al-qadiri-corpcore

Genre-Specfic Xperience remix package set for release on March 27, which will include reworks from Kingdom, Girl Unit, Ikonika, DJ Rashad, and more.

what happened to

ikr?

Fatima Al Qadiri ‏ @FatimaAlQadiri
@[me] yup, may 22 is the release date!

okay dennnnn

http://soundcloud.com/unouno/fatima-al-qadiri-corpcore-kingdom

REMIQSIS. I LIKE THE REMIQSIS.

yeah, it's a pretty solid collection

Wish I still had all my Bryce 3D turquoise iMac .jpegs.

Apparently the next Fade to Mind release will be by Fatima al Qadiri?

!

http://www.thefader.com/2012/10/03/stream-fatima-al-qadiri-ghost-raid/

I wish I hadn't read the blurb : (

ameliorative coos

that's some "synth gurgles" shit

Oh, looking forward to this. Only thing I could say that about on Fade to Mind.

Nodding my head @ that post.

:/

those nguzu/mikeq/rizzla eps are 100% classics

Didn't know Mike Q had a release, will check this out!

lol some people seem to go out of their way to state how much they don't like fade to mind

really good interview with her in the fader

http://www.thefader.com/2012/11/12/interview-fatima-al-qadiri/

she is awesome

I wanted to get more profesh.

<3

Does the Desert Strike EP count for 'albums' in the EoY poll?

Also, there wasn't any stuff out as Ayshay this year I missed, was there?

sure; no

tbh I'm not as impressed with Desert Strike as GSX :/

I like it a lot more, but then I never listened to GSX as much because I was too busy listening to 'Warn-U' on repeat when I found out about her.

GSX is very much my favorite thing she's done.

Fair play, I think she's awesome in general - I guess my favour lies with the less beat-heavy stuff? I dunno, could be talking out of my ass there, I should go back and give it more of a chance now I'm not just rotating the one track.

I live and die for the beat :)

Not beat-centric here but the vibrant lushness of tracks like Hip-Hop Spa are my favourite thing about FAQ's music. I do like Desert Strike but I suspect I'll find 25 other things I prefer.

tbh I'm not as impressed with Desert Strike as GSX :/

― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah same here - I think desert strike is supposed to be more 'reserved' and 'meditative' but unfortch for me that just means 'more boring'

did anyone check out the EP of remixes of GSX?

Fair play, I think she's awesome in general - I guess my favour lies with the less beat-heavy stuff? I dunno, could be talking out of my ass there

― emil.y, Friday, November 30, 2012 1:42 AM (19 hours ago)

m8 what ever happened to the traditional english 'arse'

Anything new?

https://soundcloud.com/future-brown/wanna-party-ft-tink/s-zjDxm

yessssssssssssssssssss

Anyway, this kind of mapping is maybe sounding a bit weird now. The point is that I think there are those connections and strong links to accelerationism. It's not so far fetched or unsubstantiated.

i think part of the problem here is that criticizing the art can easily slip into criticizing the critics who like that art if you're not careful

dont know enough about the situation to say whether lex did that or not but ...

do they like that art... or do they like writing about the art?

the rabbit holes

The lex peice is more engaged with how the Future Brown album has been received by a certain segment of the pop music press than it is with either the art-conceptual framework (which still gets a fair amount of attention) or the music itself (basically a dismissive footnote). In other words, it's par for the critic's course: "You're all paying attention to the wrong things." The lex has seen the incurious and self-congratulatory interconnections that reduce so much pop of the pop press to the rote chewing of a shared cud and must forevermore fight the power.

That isn't such a bad vantage from which to launch a politically-minded critique, but nor are the qualities that help make Future Brown's art so interesting to dilettante tastemakers bad things in themselves ("from privileged backgrounds, fluent in the promotional use of art-speak"). I don't outright love the album, but nor do I see it as some regrettable exercise in forced exotica and greedy cultural appropriation. However high-minded the framing, the producers are pretty much just making pop music and using vocalists whose work they presumably enjoy to achieve that.

The problem, more than anything else, is that their pop instincts are rather dull. "Vernaculo" and "Talkin' Bands" are excellent, but that's more a product of the vocalist's work than the production, which tends to a tepid glassiness.

^ BANDZ, lol

To the extent the album works, it does so because it's so entirely dominated by its vocalists. Since nearly every moment is dominated and defined by a different singer or rapper, Future Brown has a lot of moment-to-moment textural appeal. And while the backing tracks aren't all that immediately exciting taken on their own, at their best they at least tend to serve and flatter the vocals. Some, like "MVP" and "Asbestos", fall distinctly flat, and several more seem more like lazy pastiche than the product of a distinct sensibility, but the run from "Bandz" through "Dangerzone" is pretty solid. If, yeah, uninspired.

i think part of the problem here is that criticizing the art can easily slip into criticizing the critics who like that art if you're not careful

OTM. That way lies Armond White.

TTM:006 MA NGUZU

https://soundcloud.com/tobago-tracks/ttm006-ma-nguzu

Enjoying this genre-hopping mix of stuff, Meaghan Garvey mentioned it in her Pitchfork review and have only followed it up this week.

Annoying Fade to Mind producer quote from article "L.A. record label Fade to Mind looks to expand its cultural reach"

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83234482/

We may have missed some opportunities because we want to control everything,” Rubin said. “Our brand’s really complicated, it’s not just a bunch of boys in hats playing trap music. But we’ve always been influenced by pop music, and if someone came to us to do a Britney record, of course we would try it.”

Elysia Crampton's American Drift is really scratching the itch for me that the Future Brown album failed to.

lol I forgot about lex vs FAQ high-quality stuff

lol yah prime filet mignon for those w/ long memories

i regret nothing except not doing it to pc music as well due to lack of time/unwillingness to endure their output

all things considered i think future brown is happily on course to be the turkey of the decade

yeah that's why i think pc music might have been more worthwhile to go in on

did anyone write anything on ilm about the fatima al qadiri album, brute? finally listening to it now

as far as I can tell it's just completely normal faq instrumental music content with little news clip samples occasionally at the beginnings of tracks, for uh, conceptual reasons?

asiatisch was much better

*hits a gong*

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 27 February 2015 18:20 (two years ago) Permalink

classic thread! also, good interview in pitchfork

critic Isabelia Herrera twweeted her fave 2023 albums on Spotify so far and included Fatima Al Qadiri's Gumar ep

What I heard of Medieval Femme sounded great tho maybe more to admire than something I'd go to repeatedly.

Someone did a video edit of the strikingly eerie 'Malaak' over clips from the Dune remake and it did work all too well.