Lana Del Rey

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'ihow is anything about her "indie"?'

exactly, she never did. it was just an assumption people took up because of the self-produced video for video games. i think it was a wrong assumption.

akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

'ihow is anything about her "indie"?'

exactly, she never did. it was just an assumption people took up because of the self-produced video for video games. i think it was a wrong assumption.

― akm, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:18 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

??? that video didn't just accidentally play to indie sensibilities and audiences, though. i refuse to believe that LDR's marketing has been that entirely guileless. it seems to me that she was originally pitched to blog-happy indie culture as a way of creating a sense of "specialness" and building word of mouth. it worked like a charm, but the inevitable reveal that it was all just savvy brand positioning was bound to bruise overearnest indie hearts.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

saw this piece of urban folk art on the way to work today http://i.imgur.com/I84Ke.jpg

♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

so what if actually she came up with that name all by herself, and instead spent that 5 years badgering trentemoller and bonnie prince billy to work together to producer her album..... what then?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Let's have a toast for douchebags
A toast for the assholes
Video gaaaaames

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't care what focus group came up w/ her name, I care that most of her songs suck

iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

and that I see a darkness
and that I see a darkness
and that I see a darkness ... video games

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Grab somebody sexy
Tell them hey
Video gaaaames

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

fuck washing a hat
hi dere how is it made
video games...

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

save us Johnny Fever
again, save us Johnny Fever
video games

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Ball so hard
Motherfuckers wanna find me
Video gaaaames

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

They see me rollin'
They hatin'
Video gaymz

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay
It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away
Video games...

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Shaggy's little boys look just like Shaggy
And my little boy looks just like daddy
video games...

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

the album is a masterpiece of marketing, totally stays on gangsta-nancy-sinatra message. she manages to be front-and-center in big productions without evaporating like on SNL, and her schtick works when she isn't violating the show-don't-tell maxim. unfortunately the lyrical clangers are pretty brutal.

carmen carmen staying up til mornin'
only 17 but she walks the streets so mean

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

lou reed ghostwrote the whole thing

iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

i am the root, i am the table
i am video gaaaaaaames

markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

she's indie in the sense of indie being a cultural code word for dwelling over your low self-esteem + emotional wreckage, but the indie/pop division hasn't meant much since 1991 so

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

she should do a collab album with ghostface killah and destroyer

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Cuz when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the droppers neck
When I'm closing in on death
Video gaaaaaames

uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

You gotta lick it
Before you stick it
Video gaaaaaaames

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

i'm a bad bitch
i'm a cunt
video gaaaaaames

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

I like this album in a slow-motion car crash sort of way. Which I genuinely mean as a compliment.

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

you need to crawl
before you ball
video games

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahahahahaha

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

that was just for you.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

you can hide beside me, play your video games;
and I won't tell no-one your name

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Can't tell if this NYT piece is meant to be a review of the album or not but if so then he might want to try discussing the music for more than a couple of paragraphs, fun though talking about memes and quoting Brian Williams doubtless is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/arts/music/born-to-die-lana-del-reys-debut-album.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimesarts

Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

music writers not writing about the music at hand is such a bugbear of mine. tons of em do this ;_;

caramanica, as i said on twitter, is the dude who gifted us a PRRs profile piece in the NYT. RIP music journalism

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

IT’S already difficult to remember Lana Del Rey, but let’s try.

OH RITE WHO? LANA DEL WHO, YOU SAY?

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

why do people keep calling her "gangsta"?

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

adjective performed well in the focus groups

iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

her producer also produced this http://t.co/MZykcyLW

I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Nice production.

xp She called herself the "gangsta Nancy Sinatra" despite being considerably less "gangsta" than Nancy Sinatra.

Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

that's all it takes?
okay, i'm the "gangsta david byrne".
did she rob a bank? shoot somebody? does she sell drugs? own a gun? do words have no meaning? wtf?

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta

iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Translation: "I enjoy both the music of Nancy Sinatra and hip hop and I thought this would be a cute, quotable phrase. I regret to say I have never actually committed a felony and apologise for any confusion."

Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

okay, i guess those both kind of make sense, but why do other people use that?

also, yeah, calling yourself the "gangsta nancy sinatra" is like calling yourself the "jewish woody allen"...

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

caramanica, as i said on twitter, is the dude who gifted us a PRRs profile piece in the NYT. RIP music journalism

tbf that was more a piece of fiction than journalism

buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

i want a buzza profile in the nyt tbh

markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

how many times in this thread has the phrase "most photographed barn in america" been used

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

where was it that she called herself "gangsta Nancy sinatra" again? wasn't it on some Facebook page? could it be possible that she herself had nothing to do with that tagline?

uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

she has it etched on her gun

iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

What I find disingenuous about the NYT "review" is that like most US critics he's made up his mind to bury her but he holds the likes of HRO at arm's length as if he's not basically saying the same thing. I'd respect him a lot more if he included himself in the tally of hypocrites in the last paragraph.

Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

"it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta"

OMG, so was i!

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

nancy sinatra kinda lost some gangsta cred after she started hanging out with morrissey. despite his skinhead affiliations.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

"it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta"

OMG, so was i!

― scott seward, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

step 2 - spend the next 5 yrs in name negotiations w/ attys
step 3 - profit

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Scotti La Rue - Born To Cry

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

she's from lake placid, ny, but please continue.

m white btw (get bent), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

my aunt and uncle live in tupper lake! we are practically family. my aunt was a pretty gangsta paddle tennis player in her day.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link


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