Is it bad for a baby to see you masturbating?

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(I'm not saying Delany's theory is right or wrong, mind you. I have no idea. I am not a babyologist.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Especially if it isn't your baby.

I hadn't even thought of that...

If you're babysitting, just call the parents and ask them if it's okay.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hi, Uncle Steve, I just wandered if it was... OK to... wank next to your baby?"

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Splashing around in that hot water with my woman, I began to get ideas, as they say. After a while I placed my body in such a position in the water that the baby could not see my hard-on.
I did this by going deeper and deeper in the water, like a dinosaur, and letting the green slime and dead fish cover me over.

Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

WTF???


"Hi, Uncle Steve, I just wandered if it was... OK to... wank next to your baby?" - this is making me roffle like a madman.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

You could play Freak On A Leash. Errr, that's a different thread, I guess. Seriously, ew, masturbating in the same room as your child?!? Of course the kid's not going to know what you're doing, but don't/would you feel uncomfortable wanking in his/her presence?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, there's actually a lot of research on infant learning that suggests they're considerably more conscious than we usually think of them as being. Assuming this already happened, 1) you seriously need to learn to reign in your impulses and 2) it probably won't do any long term damage unless it becomes a habit. In the eyes of the law, of course, it'd count as child molestation and get you ten years, and not without reason.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Children are most receptive to learning and absorbing new things between the ages of 0-5, yeah? WANK AWAY.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

'absorbing new things'

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

thank you nick.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

It's an offense, yeah?

(I know I'm offended but you can do time for it?)

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Not sure if it's bad but it's definitely funny.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course it's not bad, but I think it's just ICKY.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, fuck it, I think it's bad.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Really bad.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

EVIL!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you have the kid on a leash while you're masturbating?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

If so, double ew with yuck on top.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm hyperventilating now.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

With excitement!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

doing it with the dog looking is the worst. Every time you look over they look away and pretend their not watching.

aylene (Dorca), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

red rocket!

Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I'm PANTING. Shit, what about masturbating when you're PREGNANT? You keep on running away from the baby while trying to get yer rocks off.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

First of all, even if the baby was conscious of what's happening and if was close enough to actually see what the person is doing (both big ifs), it would have no idea of what masturbation is, so all it would see is someone moving his/her hand. You all seem to be saying that it feels weird for someone to wank with a baby in his/her presence, which is probably true, but that's only because of the culture and time-dependent ideas that, a) masturbation is wrong, or at least kinda yucky, and b) children and sexuality should be in no contact with each other, even if the child in question would be in no way affected by what's happening.

Is it wrong for a couple to have sex while their baby is sleeping in the same room, knowing that the baby might wake up? Or if the baby isn't sleeping at all? Or for a couple to have sex in their bedroom, with their children sleeping in adjoining room, even though they might wake up and hear the noises? How are these things different from the original poster's question?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

First of all, even if the baby was conscious of what's happening and if was close enough to actually see what the person is doing (both big ifs), it would have no idea of what masturbation is, so all it would see is someone moving his/her hand.

You forgot that it could have sperm in his eye.

EW!

I'm trying to think of all the posters who recently became a parent.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

How do kids get siblings, then? Not just by anniversaries to hotel rooms?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

'someone just moving his/her hand'

up and down their COCK.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

When I was a kid I did hear my parents have sex on several occasions, and once I walked into their bedroom while they were doing it, but I don't think it ruined my life in any way. And I was old enough to be conscious of what they were doing, unlike a less than a year old baby.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

it would have no idea of what masturbation is, so all it would see is someone moving his/her hand.

with their genitals growing bigger and then stuff squirting out of it.

anyway i think the worst part is you knowing the baby being there and still doing it. i mean, that's like sick. it's almost as bad as shagging in a room where there's a huge photo of your parents somewhere in it.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

but I don't think it ruined my life in any way.

dude i think it has.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

'someone just moving his/her hand'
up and down their COCK.

And you think an infant of that age has some conception of what such movement means? I was at least ten before I learned it.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, people's reaction seems to be, "Eww, this is wrong!" without questioning themselves why they think it's wrong.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, moving beyond vanilla stuff, would pissing/a2m/etc be ok in front of a child, 'because it woudln't understand'?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

What's "A2M"? And what do you mean by pissing?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i just had a thought about why or how it is wrong and i think i've pinned it down to mainly growing a boner and pulling it out and choking it out while you are in the room with a baby. i mean. it isn't whether the baby knows what you're doing, it's whether you know what you're doing.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

it's kind of disrespectful to say the least, unless you're saying infants don't deserve respect.

do you think it's alright to be whacking one off in an intensive care ward next to someone in a coma?

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, that what I meant by saying that the reaction people get is caused by cultural conditioning. In other times sexuality with children present, even children old enough to comprehend what's going on, was not such a taboo.

(x-post)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

so sex with 12-year-old boys is ok, as per ancient greece, tuomas?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Can you be disrespectfl towards someone who doesn't know his moralities are being offended? Or towards someone who doesn't have any sort of morality yet?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

is mandatory female circumcision ok, because it's just a matter of culturation?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yes you can. you're showing the disrespect because you know the moralities. this is the reason how you can be disrepectful to dead people.

xpost.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

so sex with 12-year-old boys is ok, as per ancient greece, tuomas?

I said children present, not with children. The incest taboo exists in most cultures and times. The youngsters older Athenian men had sex with had reached puberty, I think, they were probably older than 12. Of course it sounds wrong from today's point of view, but it's kinda hard to judge such an ancient past with todaysä standards. It was part of a young man's life cycle back then, I doubt most of the were traumatized by it, since it was part of everyday life.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

is mandatory female circumcision ok, because it's just a matter of culturation?

No, and there's a difference. Female circumcision does concrete physical harm to women. Wanking before a baby most likely doesn't affect it all, not even mentally.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

but it isn't everyday life now that people jerk off next to you when you were a baby is it??!!?!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

but sex with 12 year old boys did physical harms to the children's butts.

xpost

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Tuomas in taking extreme moral relativist position shocka!


Just don't open up the can of worms of whether fat people are sexy.


(note: They're not)

Seems2Me, Monday, 5 December 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

but it isn't everyday life now that people jerk off next to you when you were a baby is it??!!?!

No, but the baby isn't aware of things like a teenager is.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah but they might FIND OUT when they grow up!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

why does the occurence of 'concrete physical harm' change the essential moral question?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not a moral relativist, for example I'm strongly against female circumcision. I don't necessarily think, however, that being aware of sexuality is harmful to children, and I definitely don't think sexuality is harmful to children who aren't aware of it.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Just as a side light to show how the world changes, in most of the world and for most of history, poor families (meaning the vast majority) have lived in houses with one or perhaps two rooms, where everyone ate, slept and lived. That included minors along with adults. In northern Europe it often it included a few farm animals, too. Much sexual intercourse happened in those houses in spite of minors being present.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 9 September 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Look, the Babybjorn was securely fastened, he'd just been fed, I really don't see why people are getting so uptight about my infant son's presence at the bestialitorgy.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

and yet my wife won't let me eat a pizza during our coitus

DOUBLE STANDARD

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

I'm impressed by the implied mastery of physical logistics.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

xpost Not to mention stamina. An entire pizza!

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

A new take, found in Elizabeth Von Arnim's The Caravaners

"My hearers will agree with me that such raptures are well enough in a young girl in a white gown, with blue eyes and the washed out virginal appearence one does not dislike at eighteen before Love the Artist has pounced on it and painted it pink, and they will also I think agree that the older and married women must take care to be at all times quiet. Ejaculations of a poetic or ecstatic nature should not, as a rule, pass their lips. They may ejaculate perhaps over a young baby (if it is their own) but that is the one exception; and there is a good reason for this one, the posession of a young baby implying as a general rule a corresponding youth in its mother. I do not think however that it is nice when a woman ejaculates over, say, her tenth young baby."

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

Jesus fuckin christ

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

(yes i know it's the alternate usage of 'ejaculate')

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

so that's where updike got it

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

updike started this thread??

sarahell, Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

Tuom Updike

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

is it bad to masturbate in a room where Nirvana's Nevermind (1991 alternative rock album whose cover shows a naked baby boy, Spencer Elden, swimming underwater with a U.S. dollar bill on a fishhook, in front of him, just out of his reach) is on prominent display?

in walked airbud (unregistered), Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

i love ilx

sarahell, Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link

Be assured, the baby pictured on the album cannot see you masturbating, for it is only a two dimensional representation and not a real baby.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:47 (two years ago) link

It could be the Phantom Zone

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

the revive that needed to happen, kudos

sleeve, Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link

as soon as I saw the thread pop back up, I knew

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Thursday, 26 August 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link


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