DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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I don't think Occupy has "achieved nothing" - it's prompted a debate, politicians now feel they have to talk about "responsible capitalism", mutual ownership, and so forth, even if they're doing so completely insincerely.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

So it has achieved increased level of cynical lip service from politicians? Good job Occupiers.

onimo, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

Insincere discussion is still better than no discussion at all IMO. It's like the environment, it's evidence of attitudes becoming more mainstream. Even if today's politicians are only paying lip service, the next generation may have to take these issues more seriously.

Of course, like the environment it's something that the public in general may be happy to have opinions about until they're actually required to give something up.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

politicians now feel they have to talk about "responsible capitalism", mutual ownership, and so forth, even if they're doing so completely insincerely.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 2, 2012 12:44 PM (1 hour ago)

this crap was in the manifesto via the visionary philip blond's timorous volkism iirc

Wee sleekit timorous volkism

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

John Kelsey-Fry QC closed the defence case by reading out a letter sent from an undisclosed witness.

The letter detailed how Redknapp invited a wheelchair-bound former Tottenham Hotspur player to come and watch a training session.

The letter said: "How considerate and kind is that? I would say it is confirmation he is a giver, not a taker."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Maybe David Cameron can promise to have a cup of tea with her to sort it out:

One of the biggest private sector partners for the government’s welfare-to-work programme has hit back at critics following the disclosure that police are investigating possible fraud at the company.

A4e, which makes its income entirely from government contracts, has been under scrutiny for weeks after it emerged that its founder and chairman, Emma Harrison, was paid £8.6m in an annual dividend for 2010, mainly from taxpayers’ money.

It has since emerged that the police are looking into fraud allegations at the company. Police officers visited the company’s Slough headquarters on Friday.

In a statement the Thames Valley force said its officers had gone to the premises “as part of an allegation of fraud, which was referred to the force by the department for work and pensions”.

A4e declined to comment on reports that the company allegedly claimed funding for putting clients into jobs that lasted only a day.

Margaret Hodge, who chairs the Public Accounts Committee, charged with scrutinising whether government programmes deliver value for money for the taxpayer, has tabled a parliamentary question in which she demands that the department suspend its contracts with A4e until the police investigation has been completed.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2e703ce-5bef-11e1-841c-00144feabdc0.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

Company that runs welfare-to-work programme found to be scumbags, what a shockah!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

Lansley to the rescue... of the Labour Party. Thing that I don't get is who are all these people who are still supporting the Lib Dems?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

Can't hear his name now without going "Andrew Lansley GREEDY Andrew Lansley TOSSER" in my head.

ledge, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

Can't hear his name now without going "Andrew Lansley GREEDY Andrew Lansley TOSSER" in my head.

my gf and i are exactly the same way...

the world is just a racist onion (stevie), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

you are both GREEDY TOSSERs?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link

if we're at a buffet then yes

the world is just a racist onion (stevie), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

Minister disappointed by shortened Adele speech.

The healing has begun.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

Mr Cameron said he was "sick of anti-business snobbery".

"In recent months we've heard some dangerous rhetoric creep into our national debate that wealth creation is somehow anti-social”

I wonder why that might be you posh, upper class twat?

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

"In recent months we've heard some dangerous rhetoric creep into our national debate that grinding the faces of the poor is somehow anti-social"

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

nah seriously tho Dave good on ya. just think where we'd be without all these new private sector careers you've created.

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

"Put a young person into college for a month's learning, unpaid, and it's hailed a good thing.

"Put a young person into a supermarket for a month's learning, unpaid, and it's slammed as slave labour. Put a child into a great school run by a local authority – cause for celebration. Put them into a great school backed by a bank – and that is a cause for suspicion. Frankly I am sick of this anti-business snobbery."

Fucker should just get on with it and offer BTECs in Aisle Replenishment.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

Put a young person into college for a month's learning, unpaid, and it's hailed a good thing.

yeah we run a lot of dead useful month-long courses you nob

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

"Put a young person into college for a month's learning, unpaid, and it's hailed a good thing.

"Put a young person into a supermarket for a month's learning, unpaid, and it's slammed as slave labour.

did he actually say that?? i thought i'd used up my reserves of disgust already this month, but...

the world is just a racist onion (stevie), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Its weird how I talk about D-Camz the same way my father talks about M-Thatchz, in so much as every other sentence is 'Would like to piss on their grave'. I think this NHS thing is when I really started to up my true anti-tory rhetoric and hate.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

Warms the cockles that the young 'uns are learning the old ways vis a vis Tories being lower than vermin. I hate Clegg more though.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

ch✧✧✧.grayl✧✧✧@d✧✧.g✧✧.u✧

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

shit guys I just the government's emails!!!!1

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

You've lost me

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9699000/9699350.stm

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

He is useless. First Gove with the Trots opposing his academies plasns and now Grayling with the SWP, reds under the beds or what?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

look the SWP are a very real threat to democracy in this country

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

heard that live thursday night and still thought you meant ac grayling

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

This is going to be huge in the long term. I can see Murdoch moving away from news and media and towards education.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 27 February 2012 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

He's not really going to be around for the long-term, but I think there's a difference between providing online education materials and actually running a school. That article is about the former but heavily implying the latter. I wouldn't want Murdoch anywhere near a school but the article's being a tad dishonest.

Would love to see him try and make that tablet education model work in a Kennington comp though.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 27 February 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

John Bird, writing in The Times:

Much of the controversy about work placements has been absurd and naive. Tesco was started by Jack Cohen. He worked off a barrow in the East End nearly a century ago. He started his business to make money and Tesco has never erred from that concern ever since. So, of course, there should be no surprise that when Tesco entered the scheme - before getting cold feet and withdrawing - it wanted to maximise the benefits that free labour brings them.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

I assume that's not John Bird the satirist, but John Bird the Tory class traitor?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

it's not my grandad

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

You know what really helps young people into work? Offering them jobs.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

Works for all ages!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

Amazing austerity news:

Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics, Media and Sport Jeremy Hunt said: “This is great news. It shows what can be achieved when determination, goodwill and a tremendous amount of generosity come together. I am very pleased that we have been able to play our part by freeing up the National Gallery’s reserves, diverting more money to arts and heritage from the National Lottery and taking practical steps to encourage greater philanthropy. Diana and Callisto is a breathtakingly beautiful work of art and I am immensely grateful to everyone who has helped to keep it and its companion painting Diana and Actaeon in the UK in perpetuity.”
http://www.spearswms.com/spears-world/wire/30522/titians-diano-and-callisto-saved-for-the-nation.thtml

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 March 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

If you can afford it, you can't afford to be without it

Riiiiiight....

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 1 March 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

Dunno how much if any Treasury money was involved in that Titian deal but I don't really have a problem with an undisputed masterpiece being saved for one of London's big tourist attractions in an environment where it can be viewed by anyone for free.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, worse things are happening... at sea and elsewhere

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed, it seems like pretty terrible things are happening at sea at the moment.

I actually love the painting. Just think that website is vile.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

That is fucking insane

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

If I submit the winning bid, how many free police horses do I get?

the feeling is surreal (snoball), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

as long as somebody builds Robocop i am cool with this

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

This is the UK, so it'll look like this...
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/alansugar415.jpg
"Dead or alive, you're fired!"

the feeling is surreal (snoball), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

no wait, like this...
http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/alan-sugar.jpg

the feeling is surreal (snoball), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

a Robocop with a Jeremy Kyle face wd be fucking awesome

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link


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