Haven't read it yet. But I went to college with him and used to talk about spy novels and cold war paranoia movies when I saw him at the store he worked for. Crazy story.
Was he really like an adult version of McLovin from Superbad?
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
He's a really nice guy.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
was prob just trying to make u like him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
In the Rutgers story, the webcam guy (who didn't post it) does come across as an erratic kid at first, prob confused about his own sexuality ("never known him to have a girl friend", etc etc from his fellow assholes). The first viewing (not a posting, but a gossip-hyped "experiment") scared him, he scared himself, basically. But then he tried to do it again, and set up a viewing party. All of this as loudly as possible online--bias intimidation? I dunno, of course the jury won't hear it just like we read it, the evidence might seem quite different in court. And the author depicts the mysterious aspects of suicide; what an ending to the article. But, even though Tyler did take it to his r.a., and was going to get another roommate, when he'd first discussed this with his friend online, he'd worried he'd end up with somebody even worse. And speaking of electronic breadcrumbs, he may have decided that, even if he started using motel rooms and got smarter online, all manner of shit could just go on and on. And in terms of death ny a thousand breadcrumbs, check this if you haven't already (Facebook is just the beginning, despite the title) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/facebook-is-using-you.html?src=me&ref=general
― dow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
LexisNexis has a product called Accurint for Law Enforcement, which gives government agents information about what people do on social networks.
First I've ever heard of Accurint and googling around doesn't bring up any articles or other information about it. What a tidbit to drop in the middle of a NYT article!
― Mordy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think he was confused about his sexuality he prob just wasn't good w/ girls and stunts like this were just trying to get people to like him
xp
― iatee, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39m06np3PjY
― buzza, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
Still pretty vague. Where does it pull this information from? Can it be used on anyone or do you need a warrant to look someone up? Is it all publicly available information?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
weird. my agency deals with lexisnexis to help validate the identities of reporters of information, but i didn't know they got into THAT kind of stuff. makes sense, i guess.
uuuuugh, 2012 suuuuucks
― Z S, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
i stopped believing in privacy roughly around 1994not that this is good in any way or that i am special just gave up early
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
u r special to us forks
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
giving up privacy is the first step towards liberation. well done.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
iPad edition released on Monday: 160 MBUpdate released yesterday: 105 MBUpdate released today: 110 MB
Total for ONE ISSUE: 375 MB
― Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link
But, even though Tyler did take it to his r.a., and was going to get another roommate, when he'd first discussed this with his friend online, he'd worried he'd end up with somebody even worse. And speaking of electronic breadcrumbs, he may have decided that, even if he started using motel rooms and got smarter online, all manner of shit could just go on and on.
a small point, but, I think this is k misrepresentative, & slightly mitigates how unacceptable what the other guy did, say bc it happened in a world of unacceptable thing - this was kinda addressed by the article's focus on "drama" vs "bullying"; going through whatever hassle and having to decide how you feel about it is part of going through something, and it feels wrong to use someone on the receiving end's uncertainty - or perhaps tendency to generously wish that they hadn't been put in a position where they'd have to 'get someone in trouble' &c - as a gauge of the thing itself. w/all the caveats about what you can possibly know from an article, it seemed like it sucked a lot for him & bothered him, stayed on his mind. the extent to which that's discernible from the image he's projecting while IMing his friend, trying to be breezier & non-personal about it while still expressing frustration, was one of the sadder things about the article imo.
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't get a chance to finish that whole webcame article yet, but one thing that really stood out for me from the first half was how depressing it was that everyone involved was so casually tossing out slurs in both directions over IM. Obviously the homophobia directed at Tyler, but also the when Tyler IMed about his roommate's parents "totally owning a Dunkin Donuts".
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't mean to mitigate what Ravi did, or to make Tyler a poster child for cyber-dystopia, just speculating about the feelings which Ravi fatally intensified, though didn't originate. (Tyler's mother, who of course disavows the reaction to Tyler's coming out, as he'd described it in another electronic breadcrumb, and says there were no signs of suicidal thought, does mention T. having *her* take him around to look at various bridges.) Nineteen is such a dangerous age, I almost didn't make it through, and I've known several people who didn't.
― dow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
"everyone involved was so casually tossing out racial slurs", yeah, quite a swath. The other Tyler C. made some pretty mature comments,though. Would like to see a more extensive interview with him. Oh, and Amy Davidson's post re Eastwood's Superbowl commercial was brilliant!
― dow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
john lurie story was wat.
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
wow that face transplant story! i was tearing up on the subway
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
tearing up your face?
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
tear&replace
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
thats a p sweet title for a romantic horror comedy
― BJ O (Lamp), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
story of my lyfe
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
Mr. Steal Your Face (and Replace It)
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
can someone link to the transplant story
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
and/or the plagiarism story
very hard 2 use google
I don't think those articles are available online.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
o
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
the transplant one isn't.
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
can someone summarize it for me then
― iatee, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Nic-Cage-Face-Off-Gif.gif
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/2c/f7/2cf7c8d5c96d30d3ef264ce5385ec1c7.JPG<-pre accidentfucked up go nowhere dude on a cherry picker whacks his head against a live power line, burns his entire head down to the bone. loses his teeth, his eyes, his lips, his nose, his cheeks, ears, chunks of bone, chin, everything. They reconstruct to "Melon Head", click here if you're comfortable seeing that.Pioneering surgeons take the face off a donor and we go through the process and history of transplants. Dude seems to be taking to it well. He reembraced god; very supportive family. real nightmare situation and dude came out with some semblance of profoundly damaged normality on the other end.http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/05/09/DallasWiens-AP110509018062_540x405.jpgDude can smell again, is getting feeling in his face and regaining some fine motor control. It's heavy heavy shit.
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
they talk about the face that they transplant on to him as being "the size of a hubcap".
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
that's a good story
― iatee, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
well obvs there's a lot more to it than that
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
They talk about connecting the carotid artery to the detached face like plugging a dead battery into a power source.
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
this is getting into tldr territory
― iatee, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
what are you guys doing not subscribing to the nyer anyway tho
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
I don't want to die when the unread stack topples over and blocks the only entrance out of my apartment
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
One of the reasons I subscribed is that my boss subscribes and I respect his opinion. Yesterday he told me his subscription was a gift, he never reads them because he doesn't have time, and every few weeks he dumps a pile in the work kitchen, only for the cleaners to bin them.
― Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
gotta go sometime xp
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I'm.....terrified of reading Franzen's essay on Edith Wharton.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe he's mimicking Edmund Wilson's "Justice to Edith Wharton"?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
Oooh, I'm excited, a writer who makes me want to vomit writing about another writer that makes me want to vomit.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
I love Wharton: her short stories are underrepresented in anthologies. And The House of Mirth is a masterpiece of cruelty.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
why do you dislike wharton so much mr. que?
― BJ O (Lamp), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
Alfred, have u spoken on ilx before about your Wharton love or did I just somehow always know u loved her?
― Mordy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
her writing style just bores me to tears
i also find myself enjoying narrative in fiction less and less, so this is a personal problem
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
I've mentioned it casually in other threads.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link