indefensible: john gruber

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Writing assignment: read all the fucking time you fucking fuck.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:48 (eight years ago) link

I’ve been following the recent articles and reports on Apple and manufacturing in China. I’ve heard some ugly terms thrown about, including “slavery.” If true, it’s shocking and disappointing. But I fear that it is a mix of hyperbole, cultural differences, and yes, some worker abuses. Apple appears to be doing the right things to [...]

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:57 (eight years ago) link

lot of these dudes have real sticks up their asses about being "professional writers" eh

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:10 (eight years ago) link

its funny because they just have blogs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

http://vimeo.com/36051004

markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:30 (eight years ago) link

``standing here at my standing desk''

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:37 (eight years ago) link

Do workers in Foxconn factories who build products for Apple, Dell, HP, and others, work long hours at tedious tasks? Yes they do. Do they work for a fraction of what a worker in the US, Japan, or even Korea would? Yes they do?

Are they being enslaved? Clearly, they are not.

welp, glad we cleared that up!

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

its not slavery guys, keep downloading!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Since a grandmother at home dealt with child rearing and the household management, the workers didn’t seem stressed by the work requirements or complain.

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

keep downloading those iphones guys!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

u need to read&trust bro

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:42 (eight years ago) link

it is only by completing writing assignments that you can become a beacon, a yardstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

http://twitter.com/#!/Digeratii/status/165324320179109888/photo/1/large

markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:01 (eight years ago) link

"disappointing" is the professional's choice of words to describe slavery

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (eight years ago) link

what is this thread even about any more

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (eight years ago) link

reading&trusting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

bullshit

markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

beacons&yardsticks

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

kubrick&stones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

steve&jobs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

fugees&funyons

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (eight years ago) link

braces&suspenders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (eight years ago) link

helvetica

caek, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:54 (eight years ago) link

colophons!

jerk with enough manpower (shaane), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:29 (eight years ago) link

Marco & Path: not entirely sure what the difference is, except that we all read & trust @marco.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:03 (eight years ago) link

this is actually real talk:
http://www.marco.org/2012/02/04/fixing-previous-track

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:05 (eight years ago) link

still have a lot of time for marco and his quietly unassuming proggy nerdiness

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:36 (eight years ago) link

My favorite iPhone Twitter client is now available for the iPad too. I’ve been using for a few weeks and it’s just terrific. I love it.

every single time there's a big new ios app release, he makes sure to let everyone know that he's already been using it for weeks

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

hey guys did you know that I run a popular apple-centric blog, and that application developers find me to be a good target for promotional beta releases? now you do!

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:31 (eight years ago) link

I remember being young and thinking that it'd be cool to be in a position where people would send me unreleased products to review. Then I got old and realized that beta testing other people's shit is horrible.

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (eight years ago) link

I love Tweetbot and iOs for the simplicity and beautifulness of the triple-tap gesture.

I wonder if Gruber is beta testing the version with quadruple-taps.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:39 (eight years ago) link

lol

I have two twitter apps on iPhone and I've been swapping between them with no clear fave. tweetbot 2.0 is kinda nice, though

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

i caved and got tweetbot when it went on sale and i like it so much more than any other one i've used, it's just like... enjoyable

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

i just wish the interface was more elegant

stet, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

twittelator neue is pretty but is still a lil buggy and feature incomplete

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

not empathetic enough

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:17 (eight years ago) link

"twittelator neue"

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (eight years ago) link

lol

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (eight years ago) link

can't believe you guys aren't using twilvetica!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (eight years ago) link

nm it's not out yet

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (eight years ago) link

speaking of fonts: http://www.marco.org/2012/01/13/helvetica-kettle

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (eight years ago) link

shows disturbing signs of self awareness

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

How did I miss Gruber posting this on his blog?

Oh, he didn't.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Hear that noise? That’s Violet Blue backpedalling…

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:31 (eight years ago) link

oh jesus

The overreacting/woman-protection racket going on from Gruber's corner, masquerading as being in-touch with feminist concerns or being somehow more sympathetic, is gross. Someone found the name of a woman at the company and he ran with it, which is... what, all women are the same and you found the name of the one woman who worked for them, no way are there two of them?

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:41 (eight years ago) link

There are, after all, too many millions of different models of woman. The development team should take a leaf out of Apple's book and slim down the product line offering to perhaps only two or three designs, each to fulfill the varying functions as needed by the user. This approach could soon see a rapid change in the market, with the adoption rate of women (in my suggested wifi, 8gb and 16gb variations) bringing women to the forefront of the post-PC world.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:53 (eight years ago) link

on the contrary, that woman is a beacon, a yardstick for all other women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:27 (eight years ago) link

http://www.70decibels.com/thepenaddict/

markers, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:27 (eight years ago) link


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