Early Music: RFI

ooh is this it?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbfk6Vbqls

it's awesome!!

yeah right?

I think the soloist is the guy from Gryphon.

Most of Trevor Jones' film scores on 'ancient times' or fantasy subjects have a track or two like this.

It's always a good time to watch this beauty again (although the pan flute (?) and harp are not my favorite part, and i could live without them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG1m3KTR5G0

Thomas Binkley is another maniac - one that doesn't get quite as much attention as Munrow these days due to the fact that his group, Studio Der Fruhen Musik, doesn't have any insane live-action YouTubes.

This double album (Makoto Kawabata's favourite record of all time... take from that what you will) is a great intro to early music, and is IMHO a superior statement to any single title of Munrow's (much as I love his work):

http://www.amazon.com/Troubadours-Touveres-Minstreles-Binkley/dp/B00171TE8A

well, then i must have it

lol @ insane live action --> munrow's playing is truly insane and maniacal!!

I wish I could get into the instrumental side of this stuff but I just can't.

Did you listen to the saltarello at 6:35 or so?! It's wild and droney and totally freaked out! There's another one at the very end. Maybe that's not your thing though.

I don't have any Thomas Binkley!

I just scored EMC of London's The Art of the Netherlands on Seraphim, dir. by David Munrow, 3 LPs in a box with a book of notes and everything, for $7!

Happy last day of summer, me.

Nice!

Cool! Keep your eyes peeled for Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...

i'm extremely far from an expert on this stuff, but was listening to this thing last night
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hz4fnJAIq5A/UBXkktm_kdI/AAAAAAAAEeg/f26TQuBgJcI/s400/dowland+1.jpeg
and it is amazing. http://ghostcapital.blogspot.com/2012/07/dowland-lachrimae-or-seaven-teares-and.html

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

O good I'm glad you have them.

Nice find Tyler, will totes DL.

I went googling for more info about Musica Reservata and this thread was the second result :-/

On the other hand, that EMC box I bought is SO GREAT and the liner notes were really fun reading.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8qar6hpGU1rtmp17o1_1280.jpg

eek sorry so laaaaaaarge

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:37 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

aaand look what I found at the record store today!! $7 and $4 respectively!!
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!!!!!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8351377218_f62aefc39b_c.jpg

Have been on a medieval music listening jag since last thursday due to an email exchange with this ILX user^^^

New favorite 14th century music CD: Ensemble P.A.N.'s Unseen Rain on New Albion.

Also finally heard that Huelgas Ensemble/Brumel album Milton raves about way upthread and... it is amazing.

i know! it was so weird!
friday: learned what a codex is
saturday: found 4-LP chansonnier cordiforme set with an elaborate booklet and everything!

For just 400 bucks you can own a facsimile of the Chantilly Codex! (The heart-shaped piece shown here is 'Belle, Bonne, Sage'):

http://www.omifacsimiles.com/brochures/chantilly.html

Is that the same as the one owned/commissioned by Jean de Montchenu? The whole thing is heart shaped!

I don't think it's the same one. Mebbe the entirely heart-shaped one was the original place for Belle, Bonne, Sage, which Wiki says was added to the Chantilly Codex at a later date than the rest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantilly_Codex

New favorite 14th century music CD: Ensemble P.A.N.'s Unseen Rain on New Albion.

Oh snap, the dangers of Spotify listening. Turns out this is new music composed by Robert Kyr for Ensemble P.A.N. in the style of the 14th century. Punk'd! What can I say, my ears were fooled and the results are totally amazing IMO.

I'm finally almost done listening to that Chansonniere set -- the 4th song on the 5th side has a line in which the melody is almost identical to a tiny part of the Romeo and Juliet theme from the 1968 movie, which I remember seeing in 9th grade English class and wondering what the song was. That was kind of weird. Not really worth mentioning, but there it is.

Also - assuming that my searching isn't faulty in some way -- there seems to be no mention of Jantina Noorman on ilx?! Is this possible?!

If so, JANTINA NOORMAN. Let's talk about her and her marvelous voice. Apparently Michael Morrow (from Musica Reservata) asked her to sing like the instruments and did she ever.

Here is a piece of folk journalism about her: http://www.folkworld.de/31/e/dutch.html (worth a read if you enjoy the idea of someone going on a pilgrimage to talk to a singer whose voice he (?) loved)
Here is a picture of her first album of Dutch folk songs (and her last, I think) for Folkways, which she recorded on a whim when her family moved to the USA (which I happened to have and didn't realize it was the same lady and then when I realized...magical moment)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8364998012_cb295dc89e_c.jpg

This is a good example of what she sounded like when she sang like a crumhorn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUkWm1jcSU

And that is pretty much all I can find about her. Is there more?

+1 Noorman fan club

She also sings several tracks on the Jaye Consort's A Bawdy Elizabethan Evening album-- of which the track 'Carters, Now Cast Down Your Whips' is esp amazing.

^this is on spotify

I have been wondering if Dagmar Krause was aware of Noorman's singing. There's a strong resemblance there to my ear.

You should make an all-Jantina playlist on spotify and then the pep club (me) can force everyone to listen to it.

Chantilly Codex -- A medieval music thread

Ah, ^ my Chantilly thread, didn't realise there was discussion here.

Familiar w/Ensemble P.A.N.

Ita madrigals is gd too

Can you anyone tell me of any good recordings for early Russian music plz? The bits I've heard always strike me as different in tone to other types of choral music maybe?

the father of a friend of mine runs this label (and apparently still does really well out of it !!) :

http://www.saydisc.com/

some mad stuff from way way back ..

no idea if any of this is of interest ..

What an interestingly diverse label! Color me intrigued by:

http://www.wyastone.co.uk/forest-talk-an-evening-of-songs-poetry-and-humour-from-the-forest-of-dean.html

As per request, I give you 27 Spotify minutes of JANTINA NOORMAN:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1213493496/playlist/6Jsm5qS1iUx0alKiOxviPL

Only 20 more years until DeRayMi can retire!

Oooh I'll take this one! http://www.wyastone.co.uk/gloucestershire-wildlife-tapestry-a-web-of-day-night-sounds.html

And three cheers for 27 minutes of Jantina and her rustic holler!!!

^ wildlife tapestry is on Spotify, to my amazement!

Wld make good double header with Sublime Frequencies Night Sounds of Bali

And also Sonic Seasonings!

Another Early music group that cam onto my radar is Sequentia. Note they've just completed the rec of Hildegard von Bingen oeuvre, begun 30 years ago! Heard of them in this article by Kevin Volans. Its Interesting that they started around the time the Early Music Revival was in full swing. Punk wasn't the only thing happening in the late 70s!

The wiki for Early Music indicates this includes Baroque as well but we're all stopping around the Renaissance, or even earlier, so Musica Antiqua Köln have been excluded. I guess we think of Bach as its own thing, but it would be good to get any views on this.

This all touches on another area -- one I've not been able to pursue -- of Historicall informed Performance xps

I have always wanted to hear Sequentia's speculative renditions of ancient Norse music.

By the way, this early music FAQ, run by a dude named Todd McComb, is the fucking BOMB:

http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/site.html

Wow Gloucestershire Woodlands are really bustling even in winter!

I'm really loving the character who enters at about 2:45 into 'Night: Spring'--

http://open.spotify.com/track/4HKMxNBFtsRNIUdK4sVzl8

i should probably take it to some nature sounds thread but omg i love this
i guess nature sounds are the real early music?!

Not on spotify ah well..

Thanks for the FAQ, will have a look.

the earliest music

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I love this, but has anyone got any purely instrumental recommendations? Thanks lots.

what do you like so far?

I'm listening to English Country Dances by The Broadside Band at this very moment. I enjoy stuff like that. Listened to lots of lute music earlier...specifically Early Venetian Lute Music.

http://www.amazon.com/Early-Venetian-Music-Ambrosio-Dalza/dp/B00004GLLX

Here are two CDs for cheap of stompin' squawkin' renaissance dances by Munrow and company:

http://www.amazon.com/Renaissance-Dances-Tylman-Susato/dp/B000CEBOQ8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1359065968&sr=8-5&keywords=david+munrow

Here's an interesting CD of Ars Subtilior vocal music performed instrumentally by germany's spirited Ensemble Unicorn:

http://www.amazon.com/Codex-Faenza-Instrumental-Music-Century/dp/B000009OM1/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1359066109&sr=1-1&keywords=codex+faenza

People don't talk about this enough in cool music circles, but Jordi Savall just might be the most reliable name in early music. Hesperion XXI can even bring dusty old 18C French overtures to life.

Plus this one is a mystical EM ur-recording: http://www.amazon.com/El-Cant-Montserrat-Figueras/dp/B004DY5B1M/

Current 93 used to play it before going on stage - talk about fostering expectations!

This new Laura Cannell album fits my mood fairly well. (Was not familiar with her.)

I haven't had much of an appetite for this sort of thing in a very long time, but Musica Secreta's Lucrezia Borgia's Daughter is very welcome at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNSLNlMmdRw

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:37 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was lucky enough to grab a pristine copy of the Music Of the Gothic Era 3 LP set for $15 a few days ago. I've appreciated this music digitally for years, but studying the liner notes and texts has illuminated it big time, especially with the ars antiqua and ars nova motets.

This is deeply strange music--two (or three) different texts sung simultaneously, alternately harmonizing and hocketing with each other. Sometimes the texts are closely related to each other, and sometimes sung from different/contrasting perspectives. Of course I don't understand Latin or medieval French, but I'd imagine if I did understand the language, listening to these motets would be even more of a head-spinning experience, figuring out which text to follow or attempting to keep track of both at the same time.

So I'm wondering if there are examples of motets or other music with a similar effect in English, from that era or beyond (The Velvet Underground "The Murder Mystery" is what immediately comes to mind for me). It seems like after the gothic era composers tended to base compositions around a single text rather than two or more overlapping texts, but maybe I'm wrong about that...

I just put together a show about pre-historic music, interviewed Simon O'Dwyer of Ancient Music Ireand, he reconstructs bronze age / iron age instruments and figures out how they were played.

https://centuriesofsound.com/2023/09/11/centuries-of-sound-radiopod-prequel-special-1-ancient-sounds-with-simon-odwyer-of-ancient-music-ireland/

They've also just launched a sound library called Paleosonic - https://www.ancientmusicireland.com/sound-library

this is so great!

Thanks, I was surprised at how much was out there, I had the idea that it was just the Hurrian hymn, but could've put together several hours.

Yoooo