New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

super confusing, the caller ID is a fucking mess, some outgoing messages randomly don't sync to other devices, high risk of coming back to your mac hours later to see what the other person thought was a text you would get on your phone. whole thing is a total shitshow

I sent a message to my iPad from my mbp & it was received about 10 seconds later; fwiw I don't usually get texts on my iPad so I can't say if I'm missing messages or not

id be a lot less paranoid if imessage wasnt also effectively an SMS replacement for me. i dont mind missing IMs but i need texts!

is it possible to uninstall it

doesn't look like it

Drag app to trash?

Yeah, but then if you had iMessage still active on the Mac and turned off on your iPhone, when people using it on their iPhones tried to text you, their text would go to the Mac and you'd never know about it

see the tortured sentences they have reduced us to

theres an uninstall option under the imessages menu thank god

lol just coming to post that

isn't the whole point of icloud etc. that everything gets pushed everywhere? like incoming iMessages should push to both your phone and mac?

it's because of how the "Caller ID" for iMessage works on iPhones vs. all other devices.

The way to make everything work properly is to set your iMessage caller ID on all devices including your iPhone to the same email address.

this seems like a fairly simple thing that they really shouldnt roll out w/o figuring out:

if you have an account open on 1-3 devices at once, do they all get the messages all the time? annoying!
but if they DON'T, and imessage mis-guesses which device you're using, you risk losing messages - worse than annoying!

it's a tough one.

They should all get them, and when you read a message it should be marked as read on every device. Sounds really really simple to me, unless I'm missing something.

you are

(the guy standing behind you)

but actually, if i was messaging someone on my computer, and my phone was in my pocket, or on my desk, and it buzzed every time i got a message, i would not be happy about that situation

iMessages are just like texts though, aren't they? So wouldn't the fact of 'Messages' being on Macs be the problem, rather than how the actual messages are rolled out?

the fact of... i don't understand the question

yeah, i'm not quite seeing the problem here unless you lose messages between devices

It's hard when Apple gives common-noun names to all its apps xp

i don't understand how you don't understand what i'm saying is the problem here

What I mean is that 'buzzing every time you get a message' is what messages have done since dinosaurs, therefore idg your beef with the buzzing every time thing.

because apple just rolled out this thing that allows you to 'imessage' (which effectively replaces texting 80% of the time on your phone) for the desktop.

they've rolled into ichat, so it overlaps with IMing now. so if you are having a sesh with a friend on your desktop, every time your friend replies, your phone will also buzz.

ohhhh I see what you mean

Maybe that's why they rolled out the beta six months early

still it's not so much a technical problem as a practical one

yep

so what are we gonna do about it dude

#occupyapple

I suppose the word 'spaz' is okay now that Apple has started using it officially

http://images.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/images/features_gamecenter_overview.png

So the fan on my Old Apple Crust Object for 2006 is kaput. Do fans totally die like that? I'm wondering if I should take the keyboard off to see if there's something blocking it (because even when I skoosh compressed air through the vents I can't hear it spinning around) - does this sound likely?

Sorry if this should more properly go in I Hate Apple. I don't blame them!

haha CRUST OBJECT that's exactly what my 2008 MBP is turning into

bad thing: my mac pro may not be supported in mountain lion

neutral thing: I really like it, but it's not really necessary since it's just an excuse for me to play with upgrading it and the majority of its use is completely unnecessary anyway and a time/money sink

end result: I end up figuring out my priorities better anyway

btw I have a magic trackpad and the lion gesture crap is pretty damn addictive

^

I find myself trying to swipe to go "back" in the Finder, and it doesn't work, and I get annoyed x 100000000

The way to make everything work properly is to set your iMessage caller ID on all devices including your iPhone to the same email address.

Yes, but *that* breaks the SMS fallback, which means when you have no data (eg abroad) you miss another load of messages.

Tracer three-finger back swipe works in Finder if you enable it.

I find myself trying to swipe to go "back" in the Finder, and it doesn't work, and I get annoyed x 100000000

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:35 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I find myself using Finder and I get annoyed x 100000000

Thank you stet!

FWIW it's in System Prefs - Trackpad - More Gestures - Swipe Between Pages - "Swipe With Two or Three Fingers"

omg there's an option to turn the three-finger gestures (mission control, swipe b/n workspaces) into four! Cheers stet!

(macbook now matches ipad)

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/17/confirmed-ipad-3-has-a-2048x1536-retina-display/

LUSSSSSSST

ok I think I need to figure out where to sell my iPad original generation right about now

Yes, but *that* breaks the SMS fallback, which means when you have no data (eg abroad) you miss another load of messages.
--stet

Been hoping every with every iPad/iPod touch announcement that the carriers will loosen their SMS-silo mentality a bit.

Really the Messages app thing just needs the concept of what the "current" device is. Send notifications to that one, if it can't determine which one is current then send to all, and once a message is read in one spot mark that device as current and then mark it read everywhere

Really the Messages app thing just needs the concept of what the "current" device is. Send notifications to that one, if it can't determine which one is current then send to all, and once a message is read in one spot mark that device as current and then mark it read everywhere

― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, February 17, 2012 6:22 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are so many cases where this wouldn't work unless you had to 'sign in' on every device which would be a king-size drag

How so? I guess this is trickier for multi-user, but otherwise, pick the non-idle device?

It should send all messages to all devices everywhere *including* outgoing messages, always.

What it should optionally do is only *alert* on a device you're actively using, or all devices if you're not using any.

Reading or clearing an alert on one device should clear it on all of them.