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The way to make everything work properly is to set your iMessage caller ID on all devices including your iPhone to the same email address.

Yes, but *that* breaks the SMS fallback, which means when you have no data (eg abroad) you miss another load of messages.

stet, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Tracer three-finger back swipe works in Finder if you enable it.

stet, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

I find myself trying to swipe to go "back" in the Finder, and it doesn't work, and I get annoyed x 100000000

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:35 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I find myself using Finder and I get annoyed x 100000000

Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you stet!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

FWIW it's in System Prefs - Trackpad - More Gestures - Swipe Between Pages - "Swipe With Two or Three Fingers"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

omg there's an option to turn the three-finger gestures (mission control, swipe b/n workspaces) into four! Cheers stet!

Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

(macbook now matches ipad)

Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

ok I think I need to figure out where to sell my iPad original generation right about now

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, but *that* breaks the SMS fallback, which means when you have no data (eg abroad) you miss another load of messages.
--stet

Been hoping every with every iPad/iPod touch announcement that the carriers will loosen their SMS-silo mentality a bit.

all things must pass (shaane), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

Really the Messages app thing just needs the concept of what the "current" device is. Send notifications to that one, if it can't determine which one is current then send to all, and once a message is read in one spot mark that device as current and then mark it read everywhere

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

Really the Messages app thing just needs the concept of what the "current" device is. Send notifications to that one, if it can't determine which one is current then send to all, and once a message is read in one spot mark that device as current and then mark it read everywhere

― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, February 17, 2012 6:22 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are so many cases where this wouldn't work unless you had to 'sign in' on every device which would be a king-size drag

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

How so? I guess this is trickier for multi-user, but otherwise, pick the non-idle device?

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

It should send all messages to all devices everywhere *including* outgoing messages, always.

What it should optionally do is only *alert* on a device you're actively using, or all devices if you're not using any.

Reading or clearing an alert on one device should clear it on all of them.

stet, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

you're at your computer. you get up to go to lunch. how does it magically know which is the 'active' device?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

well you have to hit AWAY on your computer, so that it goes to the next device.

the late great, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

if you have an iPad at home, hopefully you hit AWAY on that when you stopped using it

the late great, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

see that would be annoying and would suck to have to do

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

if a device is asleep, no alerts + Reading or clearing an alert on one device should clear it on all of them.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

but maybe you WANT an alert when your iThing's asleep hhuhm

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

what counts as "asleep" for an iphone?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

xp exactly

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Well, when you walked away from your desk, did you pick up your phone? Registering any activity on phone -> set it as active.

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Asleep for phone would be as easy as "some other device is active"

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Well, when you walked away from your desk, did you pick up your phone? Registering any activity on phone -> set it as active.

― valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:05 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's just too many exceptions. what if i got up to grab a book from the shelf and the phone was in my pocket and it was set as active and it started buzzing instead of the computer where i was actually IMing?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

you can have multiple active devices. won't matter so long as read/unread/seen alert statuses are properly synced

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

YES BUT I DONT WANT THEM TO ALL BUZZ AT THE SAME TIME DONT YOU GET IT PEOPLE

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

am i crazy or THE ONLY SANE PERSON HERE

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

iphone can tell whether you're still in yr office due to location and wifi/bluetooth places available? idk, I am not an Apple engineer

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

if you pay me, I will tell you and Apple how to make this work. Until then, it is a secret.

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

just tell us

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

xp s1ocki I turned off the text tone on my iPad after I got my iPhone to cut down on beeping, I do know what you are talking about.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think I have email alerts turned on with iPad and I keep forgetting to turn them off until I leave iPad in my bedroom and night and ARGH EMAIL ALERTS

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

YES BUT I DONT WANT THEM TO ALL BUZZ AT THE SAME TIME DONT YOU GET IT PEOPLE

yeah, but there's no way this is remotely possible without you either telling it which one you want alerts on! It can only be so clever -- if you have your phone in hand and your laptop open, how is it to know which one you're looking at? Start tracking your eyes?

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think this problem can be solved!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

idk, just stop thinking of it as a definitive problem

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

i cant

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

srsly, there are ways they can make this much much better than the shitshow it is now, without it having to meet some unattainable mind-reading goal.

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

so maybe it's not a good idea is what im saying

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

like if this feature just causes more headaches/annoyances/confusion, perhaps it shouldnt be a feature u know?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Like nothing would be a feature if it had to meet impossible demands. Siri can't understand a damn word I say, but I get that it's useful for some people.

In time, Glaswegian-capable hyper-puters will emerge

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

its not an impossible demand! It's a demand that this feature exist w/o annoying u more than it conveniences u and making u like 'sign in' every time u get up to take a leak!!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not being helpful I know, but "own fewer apple devices" would solve it.

JimD, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh no thanks that's super helpful

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

the demand is "work out somehow which device i am currently expecting to receive alerts on and only ever show alerts on that one. oh, and I shouldn't have to indicate in any way what that device is, nor should this system fail at all in any edge case situations like when I happen to be using no devices at all. And when I'm not using any device, it should also still know which one I want to be alerted on", right?

any sufficiently advanced feature request is indistinguishable from magic.

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

that. is. my. whole. point.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not ASKING for that magic, i'm saying that WITHOUT that magic, this feature is going to cause more trouble than it's worth.

'it's all about what not to do' [or something like that] - stevejo

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I suspect magic is in their long-range planning

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

"more trouble than it's worth" = two or three extra ping sounds?

I totally think iMessage sucks right now, but I still there's something potentially v useful and handy in there, even if it doesn't manage to be totally magic.

Fuck, it's competing with SMS. Shouldn't be that high a bar.

stet, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link


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