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you have probably already cooked dinner (idk what time it is there) but i want to make vegetable korma now too! i just went grocery shopping and got what i needed. i was gonna say i thought it meant cooked in cream/yogurt but wikipedia just said braised in liquid. it's not in my cookbook so i'm gonna try some internet recipes. i got half and half, canned tomatoes, slivered almonds, and i have plain yogurt and various vegetables to use. i was looking at some paneer in whole foods but it was pricey. i might go to the indian store. don't really need it though, it'll have more than enough fatty dairy.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:23 (eight years ago) link

You can make paneer pretty easily if you have time.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah i've made it before and found it to be a huge pain. i also have a very small kitchen so i want to keep the number of steps to a minimum.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:32 (eight years ago) link

harbl! Now I want curry!

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:45 (eight years ago) link

I have small amts of red and yellow lentils in my freezer that I used like 4 years ago for a soup that it turned out I didn't like. I need something else to do w them.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:48 (eight years ago) link

daal, maybe spinach&mushroom w/ some mustard seeds & served w/ raita?

ogmor, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

tonight - RENDANG

ogmor, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

what is a really good basic curry recipe for a first-timer? i've never made a proper one before, but i had an amazing tofu curry a couple weeks ago at a french-vietnamese place and want to replicate it. the menu just said "Sautéed tofu & vegetables in coconut curry & Thai basil".

just1n3, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

if you want thai curry you can get cans of mae-sri curry paste at asian stores for like $1. the green is very hot but red is safe. you just need a can of coconut milk and some water or vegetable broth and vegetables (e.g., sweet potatoes, green beans, chinese eggplant, red bell peppers, zucchini, cabbage). it has shallots and ginger and stuff in it but i always saute some before i add everything. if it was vietnamese try my made-up recipe above. i get curry a lot at a nearby vietnamese place and i think it tastes pretty close. i think the brand of curry powder is important; i got that at h-mart a while ago and my chinese grocery store has it too.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:48 (eight years ago) link

this is kind of similar to what i do for thai curry but i think the separate coconut cream/curry paste step is not necessary

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:49 (eight years ago) link

thanks harbl!

just1n3, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

I didnt end up making korma after all, I got too drunk to cook ,hahaha :(

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:43 (eight years ago) link

ok i'm making it for you. i think it's gonna be too tomato-ey but i wanted to use less half-and-half. i didn't use a recipe so i get what i deserve.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:52 (eight years ago) link

harbl, I tried to make a vegetable biryani using some biryani paste from a jar, but it was too sour. do you think adding half-and-half would help control the taste? (dayo), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:55 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna make one tonight! I will use tomatoes too (maybe only half a can) but I'll add a little stock, and some coconut milk and some yogurt.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:56 (eight years ago) link

lol i know nothing about biryani sorry. you might try yogurt though because half and half would probably curdle.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Sunday, 19 February 2012 01:02 (eight years ago) link

a red lentil curry with a spice combo that is whole cumin, fennel seeds, mustard seeds, and fenugreek. supposed to have nigella but i didn't have that. also 3 serrano chiles, a tomato, other stuff. cilantro and lime! this is great

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 00:54 (eight years ago) link

might do a biryani next weekend

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 00:55 (eight years ago) link

oh this is what the spice mixture is called i think he left out radhuni because it might be impossible to find here? never heard of it.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 00:59 (eight years ago) link

harbl! Now I want curry!

― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:45 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

laurel otm itt

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:08 (eight years ago) link

i hope i am inspiring everyone to want curry. i have been learning so much about how stuff works together, it's weird! i have been a decent cook for a while but i feel like this curry period has brought unprecedented growth!

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:13 (eight years ago) link

like i used to just make up how to do curry and it was like always cumin, coriander, turmeric, maybe cardamom. there's a whole other world out there.

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:17 (eight years ago) link

the chicken worked pretty well. we ate a drumstick and a thigh each so there are still breasts in the fridge
--kim tim jim investor (harbl)


( -- ( .) - ( .) / (am0n), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:24 (eight years ago) link

harblz i made that curry you linked to - it was really good!

just1n3, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 04:25 (eight years ago) link

I forgot also to mention I ended up making a veggie korma. Despite adding both coconut milk and some greek yoghurt, it still seemed a little runny and not-sweet. I think it needed thick coconut cream. And obvoiusly needed the pulverised cashews. I'll have to try it again with those additions (and maybe some paneer this time too).

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 05:13 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

i made a lamb and potato curry recipe from 660 curries yesterday and it came out great except one problem i have had with multiple recipes containing potatoes: they always take much much longer to cook than the recipe says. it said to fry the potato cubes until browned, which i did and i took as long as it said to take, and then you add the potatoes back after the lamb is cooked and cook it all together until the potato is cooked, which said 5-8 minutes. well i cooked them all for an extra 40 minutes after that! the lamb was perfect but the potatoes were still a little crunchy. next time i will steam them before i brown them.

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah i have that problem with potatoes all the time, too.

made chicken korma last night. it is delish, but i should branch out with my curries.

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

microwaving potatoes beforehand is always a good idea; i only use raw taters if i chop them into small cubes and fry them in oil (for aloo gobi etc).

soaking the peas for this atm. ive never used roasted coriander seeds before, should be interesting.

, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:24 (eight years ago) link

i am having the same problem again now making a lentil soup with potatoes in it. i followed all the instructions!

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:30 (eight years ago) link

hmm. usually in a soup it's easy to get potatoes to cook through

call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:31 (eight years ago) link

horseshoe can i have your korma recipe plz?

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 00:27 (eight years ago) link

i like fish curry + i like felicity cloake & this is appropriately fine imo

ogmor, Monday, 23 April 2012 00:30 (eight years ago) link

yes! it is madhur jaffrey's recipe; hopefully she will not be mad i posted it on the internet. you heat up 1/4 cup of heavy cream, stir a teaspoon of saffron into it, and set the saffron cream aside for a couple of hours.

the recipe calls for ~5 pounds of boneless skinless chicken thighs, but i usually do bone-in. it's tastier imo. heat 5 tablespoons vegetable oil in a wide pan, like a dutch oven, over medium high heat. when it's hot, add 12 green cardamom pods, 4 sticks of cinnamon and 6 bay leaves. stir once, and then put as many chicken thighs in as will fit. brown the chicken on both sides (i feel like i always rush this step; it takes a while. your kitchen will smell really good though!) then put it in a bowl and brown the rest of it, putting it all in the bowl when you're done.

once you've browned all the chicken, add 2 medium onions, sliced, to the pan. stir and fry till they're reddish-brown (i tend to rush this step, too...i think it takes a good 8 minutes at least.) add 2 tablespoons grated ginger and 8 cloves minced garlic (well, according to jaffrey, crushed to a pulp), then stir for a minute. then add 1/4 cup whole almonds, 1/4 cup golden raisins, 2 tbsp. coriander and 1 tbsp. cumin. stir once, then return chicken + accumulated juices to the pan. add 1 c. yogurt (whisk it first, to even the consistency), 3 tsp salt and 2 tsp cayenne pepper. Stir and bring to a simmer.

Partially cover and cook over medium for 10 minutes. then raise the heat to high and stir the meat until the sauce thickens and clings to the meat. stir in the saffron cream, 1/2 tsp. garam masala* and 1/2 c of water. cover fully and leave on low heat for a while. the cookbook says 5 minutes, but that never cooks the chicken completely, maybe because it's bone-in? i usually just keep checking to see if the meat is cooked through.

*lately i just use store-bought garam masala, but jaffrey hates it and insists you should grind a bunch of whole spices to make your own. she is very detail-oriented and it can be kind of annoying, but the homemade garam masala is better. let me know if you want the "recipe."


horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:40 (eight years ago) link

this is not my mom's recipe, obvs, but she requests that i make it on eid + stuff which is the best recommendation of it i can give.

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:41 (eight years ago) link

wow that is a hardcore recipe, no wonder the short-cut vegan one i've used has been so disappointing!!!!

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:48 (eight years ago) link

haha yeah it's supposed to be for parties and occasions. it is not fucking around.

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:49 (eight years ago) link

no reason you couldn't make a vegetarian version but i admit i can't figure out how you would adapt it for vegan cooking, not that i know much about tha.

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:49 (eight years ago) link

wow I am doing that recipe next time I get a chance

dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:51 (eight years ago) link

oh, and when you take the chicken out of the pan, you're supposed to try and leave as many whole spices in the pan as possible.

dayo, it is really simple for the level of deliciousness yielded! it's my go-to dinner party dish.

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:58 (eight years ago) link

i think it would veganize pretty easily - i would use fake chicken, so obv i wouldn't get all the pan juices so that would affect the taste, but i'd sub out the heavy cream for either cashew cream or coconut cream or a mix which i think would work pretty well.

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:06 (eight years ago) link

oh duh, yeah coconut cream would work great, i think!

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:07 (eight years ago) link

and soy yoghurt.

actually, it's probably not so hardcore - the cardamon pods and cinnamon sticks freaked me out, though!

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:07 (eight years ago) link

or coconut milk yoghurt.

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:08 (eight years ago) link

i thought you meant hardcore as in hardcore fatty, which it is.

horseshoe, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:18 (eight years ago) link

haha no, it would take a lot more than 1/2 a cup of cream for me to say that!!

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:21 (eight years ago) link

the vegan recipe i use is way fattier probably

just1n3, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:21 (eight years ago) link

dayo, it is really simple for the level of deliciousness yielded! it's my go-to dinner party dish.

― horseshoe, Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

feel like this is a thing, the 'go-to dinner party dish' (I have a few)

dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 11:50 (eight years ago) link

made the horseshoe/jaffrey korma last night, it was just lovely. v diff from restaurant korma I've had & superior, popular w/ my housemates too, kudos & thank you

ogmor, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:44 (eight years ago) link

how would one vegetarianize that korma? just take out the chicken? or do things need reorganizing/supplementing to get maximum flavour?

caek, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 10:10 (eight years ago) link

ogmor! you made my day! so glad it turned out well.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:22 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i forgot to check when i was at the indian store and saw this at the chinese store (indian brand) and grabbed it not thinking too hard about it. i'm sure the indian store has the powdered form.

forensic plumber (harbl), Sunday, 22 March 2020 23:39 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

this look intersting, will try soon
my mistake reading the comments but idiots are arguing about how "authentic" it is. i will paste in case ppl get paywalled (i don't pay & don't understand why the recipes sometimes work for me and sometimes don't).

2 tablespoons unsalted butter or ghee
1 tablespoon neutral oil, like canola
1 teaspoon cumin seeds
2 cinnamon sticks, approximately 2 inches long
2 large white or yellow onions, peeled and finely chopped
1 2 1/2-inch piece of ginger, peeled and grated or minced
6 cloves of garlic, peeled and crushed
2 green cayenne or jalapeño peppers, stemmed, seeded and cut into half-moons
Kosher salt, to taste
¾ cup plus 2 tablespoons puréed tomatoes
2 tablespoons tomato paste
1 ½ teaspoons ground cumin
½ teaspoon ground turmeric
3 tablespoons whole-milk yogurt, plus 1 cup to serve with the meal
1 ¾ to 2 pounds skinless, boneless chicken thighs, cut into 1-inch chunks
3 tablespoons slivered almonds
1 teaspoon garam masala
Pinch ground cayenne pepper, or to taste.

Melt the butter or ghee in the oil in a large Dutch oven set over medium heat, and when it is hot and shimmering, add the cumin seeds and cinnamon sticks. Cook for a minute or two, stirring often, to intensify their flavors, then add the onions. Cook, stirring occasionally, until they are golden, approximately 15 to 20 minutes.
Meanwhile, put the ginger, garlic and peppers into a mortar and pestle with a pinch of salt, and smash them together into a coarse paste. (You can also do this on a cutting board, with a knife.)
Add the paste to the onions, and cook for 2 minutes or so, then pour in the tomatoes, and stir. Allow to cook for an additional 2 to 3 minutes, then add the tomato paste, ground cumin, ground turmeric and another pinch of salt, and stir to combine.
Add the yogurt slowly to the mixture, using a wooden spoon to whisk it into the sauce. It may be quite thick. When it begins to bubble, add the chicken. Lower the heat, put the lid on the Dutch oven and allow the curry to cook gently for 30 minutes or so, or until the chicken is cooked through. Add the almonds and the garam masala, along with a pinch of cayenne, and cook for 5 minutes more or so. Serve with basmati rice or naan, and the additional yogurt.

contorted filbert (harbl), Sunday, 9 August 2020 19:09 (four days ago) link

i am missing BIR-style indian food a lot, so i've become a big fan of this guy

true BIR-style because everything he makes starts with the same gravy, which he keeps in the freezer

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 9 August 2020 19:21 (four days ago) link

i would like to can a curry base like that. there aren't any recipes in the standard tested canning sources so i need to convert a spaghetti sauce recipe or something.

contorted filbert (harbl), Sunday, 9 August 2020 21:35 (four days ago) link

cute channel lol. he'd benefit from a pressure cooker for this task imo!

contorted filbert (harbl), Sunday, 9 August 2020 21:52 (four days ago) link

meera sodha is fantastic, her books are wonderful and in constant use in this house

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 9 August 2020 21:58 (four days ago) link

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