Radiohead LP9 Anticipation, Fangirling and random Cheesecake Thread (Do not read if you hate Radiohead or us)

That's been me for the past 3 days, and I'm not even going to any shows.

Okay, I'm going to bed.

Kitchens of Distinction thats it

I can officially No Longer Cope.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6798773436_06c8e12f57_b.jpg

This obsession must end.

Now I'm interested to know if any of the Radiohead members are aware of this and what they think of it.

RHMB inside joke, but i'd guess the answer is something like

*VLTF*

Melissa is probably on a plane to California, so she probably won't see this, but this is a much much MUCH better version of Cut A Hole:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6zOVumLCY&feature=youtu.be

Why is he so sexay? Why? Why, god, why? What is it about that funny little man that turns fangirls' reproductive organs to complete mush?

Not hating on RH or anything, but to me Yorke looks more and more like the guy behind the counter in a head shop.

The female half of RH's fanbase could not disagree more.

Eh, not the entire half. Thom's singing sends occasional shivers down my spine but I just don't find him attractive. The Greenwoods sure, and sometimes Ed, but Yorke? Nope, don't get it. But hey, we all have our thing.

Day-um.

OK, maybe it's just one of those chemical things, like hating the taste of cilantro or being unable to smell asparagus - that either you *get* the sexual appeal of Yorke or you just don't. Like, he's one of those people that, on paper, it's just... no. But then you see him perform, and it's the way he *moves* and it is this completely animal reaction. Just... I want to put that in my vagina.

When is Melissa back from Texas or California or wherever she's got to?

We need to discuss how Thom has turned into AN ACTUAL PISKIE

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Skirting on the Surface and the Amazing sound of Orgy got their live radiohead debuts at Dallas today. Amazing sound of orgy sounded thin but there were some substitute arrangements that made it interesting, would have loved to hear that one. Skirting on the Surface sounds like an outtake from The Bends / OKC. I think it was actually written back then, they keep digging that OKC vault, proves how incredibly fruitful that era was to the group.

when's LIFT coming out?

Dates in Manchester Evening News Arena and O2 London in October. I've never been to either, which is best?

Never been to O2, but the MEN is a dreadful shed and I cannot think that O2 can possibly be worse (given that it's much more modern).

I'm leaning towards London, but they're midweek and Manchester is on a Saturday so..

This is when I reconcile myself once again to the fact that I will never see Radiohead live again.

At least when Big Arena Concerts were still at Wembley, even though it was a fucking shed with horrible sound, you could at least get home easily. Going to the O2 means that you'll be 4 hours on a night bus.

I'm not going to bitch and moan too much, I knew this was going to happen, I was reconciled to it, but I do just want to growl. Sod it, I hate going to gigs these days anyways, even when they're little gigs in reasonable sit-down theatres, because I'm old and I've lost all sense of fun and I physically cannot stand for 3 hours.

There's vids posted in The Other Place so I'm going to watch HD YouTubes of B-sides I never thought would be played live and not get my knickers in a twist and try to go back to not caring.

I'm sorry, can I just...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f69I--5K9oo

OIWEROIAJNJ ADSFAJDFKLAJDSKLFJ AD;LFJ ADFJA ;LSDKFJ ADKFHAILFJ AKLJDFH AJDFAKSDJ AJ JADFH KJAF JKAF AJF JADHF KJA JKDFJLAKDFG JK ADFGKJBAHDKJFH ADJF AKJDNF KAJSHF KJA

can't. cope.

Maybe you could make, like, lots of vid representations of these tracks and post them on thom's wall!

He'd like that..

Fuck off.

um, I wasn't meaning that meanly..

I don't care whether you meant it "meanly" or not, it was still a shitty thing to say and you have actually hurt me and made me feel like shit so, thanks for ruining what was actually one of the few meaningful lifts in days.

We just need constant reminders, don't we, that ~behaving like a teenage girl~ is the worst thing in the universe, and that obsessive female fandom, it ruins everything.

That was cruel and uncalled for, on so many levels.

OK, I apologise.

There's nothing wrong with obsessive fandom, female or otherwise.

lol

I know it'd be gauche to complain about ticket prices in that Other Place when everyone is maxing out their credit cards flying around the world to go to every single date on a world tour, but... I dunno, pretty much the only places I ever go to gigs any more are the SBC and the Barbican where I get itchy about £20 to £30 tickets because I'm used to paying less than £10 to go to Sonic Cathedral or whatever, but at least I'm guaranteed a good view and a nice place to sit unlike a stadium gig

BUT BUT BUT. I guess, this is what I was talking with Emsk about on the train, about the stratospheric cost of tickets due to legal, band-approved secondary ticket markets and compared to that, RH are doing some kind of ethical thing in terms of not doing that, but still.

I'm going to make a list of things I could be doing with my £65 instead of going to see Radiohead in a fucking arena and buying them each another house and sending their kids to boarding school.

1) Immersive Cornish Language weekend in Newquay
2) tickets for me, and a friend, to the entire weekend of the WOW (Women of the World) Festival
3) A month of gigs at the Brixton Windmill
4) Dinner for 4, plus 2 bottles of wine at the Tooting Thali house of my choice
5) Hire a marquee at the Streatham Festival and sell postcards and prints of local landmarks

I know, I know, this is old man shaking his cane at the clouds territory considering it's actually pretty freaking REASONABLE for a stadium gig and all, but still. Just head-shakey at the winner-takes-all set up of costing for concert tickets for the umpteenth millionth time.

Meeting In The Aisle and A.S.O. Orgy are two of my favourite B-Sides, digging the new set-list!

Yeah, the setlists on this tour are absolutely incredible, some real gems in there. But, just... not £65 incredible, when I can get them for free on YouTube (sorry, I know Mr Yorke has been complaining about that, but y'know, I'm sure I'll buy the £65 biodegradable box set filled with Stanley Donwood art, when that comes out.)

It's 'lack of corporate sponsorship' isn't it?

The choice is between 'putting a few Barclaycard posters up to save punters a fiver (or more?)' and, um, not.

Or, of course, scrimping on the light show.

Or, all of the above.

They are their own corporation at this point! I'm not even talking about their personal wealth (£45 million or whatever it was quoted at) but the more I read from srs fans, the more I'm interested about finding out about the structure of wholly owned subsidiaries like W.A.S.T.E. and Sandbag and the like. I mean, not in a "try and catch them out" sort of sense, or even in a "money where your mouths are" sense but, like - trying to see how it all works out.

And in terms of corporate sponsorship - playing the American Airlines Arena and the Hewlett Packard Pavillion (because the sponsorship often goes on the venue itself, as tour support for bands usually comes from labels) is hardly scrimping, y'know?

I don't think they're being breadheads about this. Bands like U2 take corporate sponsorship (at least in part) to subsidise a batch of cheap tickets but that's not Radiohead's style. And given that concerts are where bands make their money now I can't quibble too much with their pricing. That said, £65 for a lot of Kings of Limb material is not for me. Are there really no cheaper ones?

It's not that I think they're being breadheads. It's just that... I'm unemployed; I can't afford a £65 ticket. (And I wouldn't go to an arena show anyway.)

Given the scale of their touring, is or isn't £65 a reasonable price or not? OK, sustainable recycled low-energy lighting rigs don't design and build themselves. Is this what it all costs? When a tour isn't subsidised and given tour supports? (I don't imagine XL has the budget EMI did. Also, RH choose their own support acts, rather than relying on buy-ons, all that kind of thing adds up.)

But this is when I wish Emsk would get on this thread to talk about the whole ticket pricing scandal, because I'm not an expert on this, and she is. But it seems like RH are doing something on this tour to try to address secondary reselling - but at the cost of many fans not being able to trade tickets among themselves to make sure that messageboard type srs fans all got to see as many shows as they could.

I'm not criticising pe se, I just don't know how this part works, and I wish that I did.

Also, it's not just TKOL era stuff, they are really bringing out some serious fan service in terms of the beloved and rare B-sides and older material they've been playing.

Yeah I don't know how it works either. I guess I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Still cheaper than the demented prices the Cure charged at the Albert Hall recently - that was a shocker.

Well, I just recently spent £55 each (that's four) on tickets (not thickets you rubbish typing person me) for the Hyde Park Blur/Specials/NewOrder/SomeoneElse gig.

Which seemed a lot also, but nowadays we don't do gigs so hey.

Regarding the 'scrimping', I was more about cutting down on the overheads (lights, um, what else, I dunno, support bands? Stop larfing..) rather than 'not playing the arena that has been renamed in favour of some rub lager or summat..'

I guess it's because nowadays a new band would find it impossible to do anything without 'corporation-ness' getting involved somewhere, as you say all the venues are tied in to a greater or lesser extent.

I went o_0 at the Blur gig prices, but given it's a full day out, which is almost like 1 day of a festival, with 3 headliners I'd be willing to pay £20 a piece for, that's fair enough.

But £65 to see Radiohead and - Caribou? Who I've seen at Sonic Cathedral for a fiver or whatever? - at the O2 Centre? Obviously I am not going, and the cheesecakers probably think I'm a "filler fan" for even complaining.

That was the thinking, yes.

I can't think who my OMGMUSTGO band would be nowadays (spoiled, perhaps, as my one *was* the Velvet Underground, who promptly reformed and played my 'local' midsized venue (The Forum) for 'notstupidlyexpensive' ).

I don't even begrudge the Stone Roses for charging very-silly money, I don't even know why.

I cannot think of a single band that I would pay £65 to see, just them. Not Aphex Twin, not Radiohead, not Spacemen 3 back from the grave with Jason back on guitar. Obviously I paid a lot more than that to see My Bloody Valentine reform, but that was for a whole festival with a billion other bands I loved!

So I guess that's me out of the running entirely.

The £65 (and over) list would end up having to be 'historic' in some sense.

VU, The Jam, The Beatles (I know, I know...), and I suppose if someone had offered me 2 Led Zep tickets I might have considered even though I'm totally meh about them.

Yeah, I'm getting ripped a new one for even remarking that £65 might be eye-watering for some, on a ~srs Radiohead fan messageboard~, but, still. I find it excessive.

It was a point of mild annoyance, knowing "I will never get to see RH live again" because I can't handle stadium shows, at all, even under the best circumstances. But having changed to "I couldn't actually afford to see RH, even if I wanted to" has kicked that over into actual irritation.

But this is my endless dilemma on the interweb. That on ILX, I'm a crazy lunatic fringe over the edge fan ~of artists I love~ while on the actual forums for ~fans of that artist~ I'm y'know, ~not serious enough~.

nagl for fans to be judging other fans re: how much money they can spare for gig tickets - I know the vibe is meant to be "beg, steal or borrow" for true believers but if you're in a situation where £65 is too much then it's too much and that's that.

xp The Stone Roses are a special case imo. They all need the money and they never sold that much back in the day relative to their rep so good luck to them. Same goes for most reunion tours - this is their retirement fund.

Well, yeah. Obviously, I won't be complaining if they get added to the Hyde Park gig, but I would be surprised, obv.

It gets harder for bands to keep rational about how much is "too much", particularly when tickets sell out in seconds anyway. I mean, they invened the 'deluxe LP box' format, and now every act with a certain vanity level is doing them (Badly Drawn Boy? I mean, is that a landfill happening soon?)

Also, when Jagger (he's called that now, yeah?) said about the 'box-set' of "Exile" that "it's not that expensive" I thought to myself "that means £100 is not going to be enough" and yep.

I hate to say it, but there's definitely a class aspect at work here. That I'm not prepared to begrudge the Stone Roses or any other band that got shafted by their label back in the day, the ability to provide for their families. But I don't get that vibe with RH at all, I get the vibe of still quite well off professionals shovelling loot into their ISAs after they've already paid off the mortgages on the mansions, while still making quite cushy upper middle class salaries from their record sales and merchandising. Which might be unfair, but it is what it is. And that the reason that Radiohead get shit from the NME about ticket prices, while, using the example that was brought up - Peter Gabriel doesn't - is because I don't exactly see Peter Gabriel DJ-ing at Occupy LSX and giving lip service to bringing down the 1% he is a part of while charging those nosebleed ticket prices.

But. It makes me a Bad Fan to say this, I do recognise that.

Oh, Radiohead, I hate myself for loving you, part 3,867.

WCC - I feel you on the disappointment wrt the 02 corporate experience/resistance to having to participate in the gig-as-multimedia-attention-deficit-playground potential nightmare. Like anybody, I hate feeling like an old-fart personally, but damn.

I'm gonna throw a "WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO RADIOHEAD" party and play all the albums (and singles, including B-sides) in order and eat cheesecake all night long.

Meanwhile, the Big Huge NYT Magazine story on Mr. J. Greenwood:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/magazine/jonny-greenwood-radioheads-runaway-guitarist.html