I Second That Emulsion (a film thread)

not surprising about the rarity of slide film use. kind of a pain to use, more difficult to manufacture, more expensive to buy etc.
but the vivid and saturated colors can be a revelation. high saturation negative films don't really achieve the same effect, and it's hard to 'fake it' in the computer too.
if anything I think it's maaayyybe even easier to fake digital for chrome than it is to fake negative for chrome? exposing for the highlights with each etc.

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fake digital for chrome?

lomography in not saving the film manufacture industry shocker?

salty dog photographers always said digital was like shooting chrome - because of the decreased exposure latitude, the ease with which highlights are blown. it's not strictly true - clipped highlights look like ass in digital, blown highlights look more pleasing (to me) in slides

haha. feel like hipstamatic + instagram killed lomography

I mean that I think it might be easier to take a digital picture and try to achieve the "chrome look" than it would be with negative film. The "chrome look" being the exposed for the highlights deepened shadows thing.

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ie. salty dog theory

MJ's stash at the top of the thread is looking better and better each day!

I shot some fuji 64 tungsten balanced slide film last year. now there's a film that you probably won't see on the market for long!

so i am going to drop off films today (tri-x 400), and am gonna have them scan it---any rec'd instructions i should give? or should i just see what comes out? (this was all p much 'how do i shot film' rolls, so i'm not worried that they'll turn out weird or anything)

just check on the available scanning resolutions I guess? (usually there's a low and high res option) if you feel that you consistently over- or under-exposed you could ask them to push/pull, but I'd probably just let loose and see what you get. Everyone does it differently. Some labs are def. better than others for scanning, and the price seems to vary pretty wildly.

gbx send the rolls to me

...if you want to wait three months to get them back. but hey!

actually, I'd probably just ask what their standard B&W development process is - what developer they use being p important

see the problem is that I wouldn't know how to follow up on that question

and ty for yr offer!

haha well let me know what they tell you the answer is, and then I'd tell you my ~informed opinion~ about it

"excuse me a moment I need to consult a message board"

hey it's the year two thousand and twelve, get with the times

good lord

asked to get the stuff scanned (2 rolls, 1 horrible broken roll that i pulled from the camera in my darkened bathroom and threw into a stuff sack), and they said that hi-rez scanning would be $2.50. PER FRAME.

six rolls and i've got a neg scanner of my own at that price, holy shit!

that prob means they are using a really high quality scanner like a drum scanner or a noritsu? prob overkill if you just want to get a general feel of what each neg looks like

yeah, i just asked for negs. i've got a loup and can jerry rig some way of checking em out

yeah if you have a digital camera you can make an ad hoc film scanning setup pretty easily

did you ask what developer they used?

i was too scared

oh i even just meant eyeballing em, not even scanning---most of these are going to be shit, it's just the first few rolls from the m6

$2.50 per frame is probably some kind of Nikon Coolscan setup.

Drum scans are more like $50-100/frame.

if it's drum scan it's too cheap. if it's anything else it's too expensive. $2.50/frame makes exactly no sense.
you can probably take it to just about any other place instead and get something normal (normal = probably between $12-$17 for a roll to be developed and scanned. scanning resolution and format will vary).

honestly that is really crazy. I feel like most people get scans and never see prints these days. it's pretty automated for just about any photo lab to do developing and scanning all from one machine.

$2.50 is about right for 'pro' scanning w/ TIFF files.
Noritsu/Fuji Frontier scans should be $12-15 for a roll of 36. That's ballpark for all the pro labs I've used (BWC, Precision Camera, North Coast Photo)
Saw a Imacon Precision on EBay for the price of a 5D Mark III - that would be pretty awesome, if you can keep it running.

MJ's stash at the top of the thread is looking better and better each day!

Ha! I need to do a stock check sometime. I received quite a bit of Velvia as stocking filler the Xmas before last but I've barely used that. In danger of even newly-bought film being past expiry by the time I use it, never mind the 2008 Freecycle haul upthread.

there is a maybe similar bind with getting reprints, sometimes, which is that individual prints are expensive but getting a roll done from negatives is just however much they charge for developing & printing a roll, hopefully minus processing.

1 horrible broken roll that i pulled from the camera in my darkened bathroom and threw into a stuff sack

wanna see how this came out!

yeah i'm curious too

...developing...

also somehow only recently learned about this place: mplsphotocenter.com

soooo u think it's worth 150 bucks for a six month memberships? darkroom! Free scanning!

might be a good way to learn stuff I dunno

Worth it to develop film and make contact sheets if nothing else, IMO.

would definitely be good if you had time to make use of it! do you have to supply your own paper or not?

otoh, basic equipment to develop B&W film at home: $50-100. epson v500 - $110 from amazon. ~shrug~

yeah i am intrigued by contact sheets-as-editorial-process tbh, something about the tactility

xp wait the epson is that cheap? thought it was $500 or something

huh, looks like a plustek 7600 is only 360 on ebay, which is temptingly affordable

er, amazon

If I get a place of my own when this lease is up, I think I'm going to start developing my own film at home. Too hard to time it right for drying over the tub with a roommate.

so my local cvs only had Kodak bw400cn, what is this stuff I bought

B&W film that you can drop off at the CVS (cheapest place is wal-mart actually)

gr8080 posted a p alluring set shot on 400cn in the other thread a couple of days ago:, what do you see like: 2012

i had kinda mixed results on the roll i shot, some shot in really-low-light coming out nicely & daylight stuff looking really boring

huh well whaddya know, thx dude

This was Fuji Neopan 400CN, which is their equivalent of that Kodak C-41 B&W stuff (sorry if I've posted this before):

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6150/5944030099_e958159755.jpg

so with this c41 stuff is the idea that Walmart developing/scanning will be adequate?

Well, more that it's C-41 chemistry so it can be run through the usual Fuji Minilab (or similar) machine that high-street processing stores tend to own. Exactly like colour negative film. If it wasn't C-41, you'd have to go to a "proper" lab. So, it's cheap.

yeah I guess I mean that, for the pretentious amateur (this guy), is the appeal of using c41 that you can get decent results without going to a pricier lab or DIY? or: you're going to get the same output from CVS or Walmart or the fancy pro lab, maybe? because that is definitely appealing

C-41 process is competely automated so yeah going to CVS/WAl-mart over a pro-lab would make no difference in the developing*

*well, you would probably get more fingerprints on CVS. wal-mart outsources to fuji and I've been happy with the stuff I've gotten back from wal-mart. CVS/drug stores et al probably have an in-house C-41 machine so a 16 yr old pimply faced dude is probably gonna be handling your negs afterwards.

as for scanning, not sure which would be better

Scanning varies from minilab to minilab, so I'd ask. I've heard of people getting very large files (20+ MBs) from some Walmart and CVS locations, but my Costco (using the standard Noritsu machine) supplies tiny files (800 pixels on the long end) with their scans.
Pro labs that do bulk roll scans are using similar minilab equipment, but the operators are more likely to know what they're doing (less dust, fewer scratches, less likely to have the scan be badly exposed) and you'll be guaranteed a larger file size.

(note: my Costco is just shitty in general - prints with visible dust all over them and negatives scratched to hell)

http://www.precision-camera.com/webmaster/forms/view.php?id=5

pretty good deal via Rangefinderforum for scanning from a pro place - free development, big scans for $12/roll

CVS developing + scans without prints is usually ~$3, IIRC

oh god, flashbacks to when I decided to try the local walgreens for some rolls. they had to call for a manager to determine what 'processing only' meant and whether they'd accommodate me, and when I picked em up the guy (yes pimply faced teenager) actually spilled out the cut negs on the floor and crawled around picking them up and stuffing them into the bag. bag wouldn't close over one of the strips so he folded it. none of it mattered because the chemistry was so off that the negs were unusable anyway. LESSONS.

so guys: filters??