rolling buried alive in china 2012

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You ever see City of Sadness? It's set during the White Terror. Everything I know about that era is from the film and the little reading I've done around it (and handful of films set a decade later), so I can't say how accurate or interesting it is in relation to the real thing, but it's a great movie.

C0L1N B..., Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

nah, but I am making a pact to watch all of HHH and Edward Yang's movies before i die

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm just thinking out loud here as I find out that what it means to be 'taiwanese' is actually really complicated

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:51 (five years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, race is part of it. but when the writer says "to protest rule by the han" i guess i just thought it'd be better to express that they're protesting more loss of sovereignty, erosion of cultural autonomy or SOMETHING than simply that it's some chinese dudes. haha, okay, maybe it's better to just say "rule by the han," sorry. i just wanted to say: i wish it was more clear why they were lighting themselves on fire.

dylannn, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:53 (five years ago) Permalink

the taiwanese aborigines : tibetans thing... both situations are sort of born during the qing, sorta, or at least the stickier aspects of chinese->other ethnicities. there's lots of good writing on the qing and ethnicity!

like this:

dylannn, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:54 (five years ago) Permalink


You should definitely see all the Yangs (including the omnibus film In Our Time, which is explicitly about post-ROC Taiwanese history, but mostly elides the kind of questions you're asking here). HHH's filmography is a little spottier, imo, but I guess that's a minority opinion.

C0L1N B..., Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Hu Jintao Draws Blood with the Wang Lijun Scandal

i don't know who's been seriously following wang lijun's recent problems (vice mayor of chongqing/head of psb, who helped bo xilai smash the gangs of chongqing, gets kicked out of office, rushes to chengdu and spends the night at the us consulate, comes out and gets put under house arrest) but this is a good summary of the bigger picture, i think.

dylannn, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

link doesn't work

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannn, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

wow that post is really inside baseball

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:16 (five years ago) Permalink

peregrine 2 ----- check out the essay on chinese scifi by kun kun at the start, lots about liu cixin etc. and more peregrine, one of v v v v v v v v v few places to read contemporary chinese fiction in translation by the few people that are in the business of translating it. #6 has brendan okane translating my girl sheng keyi is about as good as this kind of stuff gets (this is me saying: it's okay and i'm excited about it but it's still got the problems that chinese-engl translation often has + it all reads like howard goldblatt + it's a bit boring).

dylannn, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Learning How to Argue: An Interview with Ran Yunfei

ran yunfei has some of the worst traits of chinese internet intellectual guys... zero useful political insight (he actually believes in the "jasmine revolution" -------- so does jon huntsman) + catnip to western chinawatchers (here, he's noticed by ian johnson, who's into writing stuff about MAO'S VICTIMS and FALUN GONG and like... this, about the rise of DAOISM in china and manages to quote lao-tzu and mention little yue yue getting run over)... unforgivably boring (he patronizingly criticizes ai weiwei for reacting "excessively")... BUT

i'm sort of interested in reading the book he mentions, a sort of microhistory of a temple in chengdu. i guess it's sort of impossible to find, though.

I finished it last year before being detained and it was printed. But then after I was detained the publisher refused to release it. So I told this to the guobao and they said, “You are detained but you haven’t been convicted so you can publish. You’re not yet a criminal and you have the right to publish.” I said, “Hey, can’t you tell the publisher that?” They said, “No way, we can’t call up the publisher like we’re your agent or something. Anyway, we’ll frighten them to death! But you can tell them our views.” So I did and they published it but it’s not available on any online service. We had a press run of 5,000 and I’ve sold about 2,000. They sell it at the temple but only if you ask for it. It can be bought but it’s unavailable.

dylannn, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:29 (five years ago) Permalink

i find i follow shit like utopia <a href="";>乌有之乡</a> because even if the majority of opinions they publish or sympathize with are mostly newfarleft stuff, i dig it because-- the writers are more likely to have a much deeper knowledge of how politics/economics/the SYSTEM works in china and when they criticize the leadership (when not attacking american imperialism and eulogizing kim jong il and shouting nationalist slogans), they are a lot sharper and realistic, whereas guys like ran yunfei believe in the jasmine revolution and want to tell us that lei feng was FAKE oh my god THE PARTY HAS LOST ITS WAY.

dylannn, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:40 (five years ago) Permalink

FUCK bbcode

anyways. reminded of tricia wang dump1ings for sale piece + factory girls obv, the veggie vendors-- excerpt from Eating Bitterness: Stories from the Frontlines of China’s Great Urban Migration

dylannn, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:48 (five years ago) Permalink


thought that was a weird headline to see at the top of my qq news, just 'cause not every headline mentions the "tragedy of the cultural revolution"

wen jiabao answers reporter questions after nat people's conference

"after reform and opening, the party set about rectifying a bunch of historical problems. but the excesses of the cultural revolution and the influence of feudalism have not been completely wiped out.

"along with economic reform comes problems like financial inequality, lack of credibility, and corruption. we can't concentrate on economic reform but also must look to political reform, especially reform of how the party and the nation are governed. ... with reform nearing a crucial period of time, we have to complete political reform to succeed economically. the successes of reform and opening can be lost. these new social problems we're seeing can't be ignored. historical tragedies like the cultural revolution can happen again. every party member and leading cadre should feel a sense of urgency.

"of course, reform is difficult. to change things, we need the everyone's enthusiasm, awareness, and support. in this nation of 1.3 billion people, we must proceed step by step, as the conditions of the country dictate, to establish socialist democracy. this isn't an easy. but reform can only march onwards. we can't let things stagnate. we can't stop. we can't go backwards. the only way is to go forward.

"i know people are going to say, this is all talk. but just watch me. let me tell you everyone right now, i will fight until my last breath for the project of reforming and opening china to the outside world."

dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:46 (five years ago) Permalink

it's interesting becauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse, it just shows you why EVERYONE loves him... because there's something in there for the new left people and the laid off workers who still yearn for the days of central command economy: he's attacking shit like financial ineq, corruption, which new left guys say was introduced by all the neoliberal economists that run the party now + everyone in china can get behind hating on corruption. and like, if you're a reform minded person, you could think, hey, yeah, we do need political reform to catch up to economic reform (wei jingsheng went to prison for 15 years for something like that)

dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:51 (five years ago) Permalink

but just as always, there are no actual concrete suggestions what political reform actually is or who's going to look after it. and there seems to be no movement in that direction, either. so.

dylannn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:52 (five years ago) Permalink

lot of great stuff in there! May 35, everybody. also that awesome song about grass-mud horses, so naughty and sensitive

Sébastien, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

while wen jiabao talks about inequality and corruption...

richpeople npc delegate internetlaughs:

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CPPCC delegate, CEO of China Power International Development Ltd, Li Xiaolin, wears a salmon pant suit from Emilio Pucci’s spring-summer 2012 collection, prcied at 12,000 yuan. That amount could help 200 chldren wear warm clothes, and avoid the chilly attacks of winter. Li Xiaolin has said, “I think we should open a morality file on all citizens to control everyone and give them a "sense of shame".”


Netizens Scour High-Res Photo of ‘Two Sessions’, Mock Members

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 07:47 (five years ago) Permalink

<a href="";>China and the Unofficial Truth</a>

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damn li xiaolin, daughter of li peng

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 07:53 (five years ago) Permalink


China and the Unofficial Truth

damn li xiaolin, daughter of li peng

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 07:53 (five years ago) Permalink


dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 07:55 (five years ago) Permalink

"my dad could crush your dad with tanks"

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 07:58 (five years ago) Permalink




dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:05 (five years ago) Permalink

btw if u ever need li peng jokes: 江泽民李鹏笑话集锦

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:06 (five years ago) Permalink

quiddities and agonies 《夫妻那些事》 it's new

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:26 (five years ago) Permalink

hahhaahaha wow bo xilai got ousted

flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:41 (five years ago) Permalink

to avoid another cultural revolution

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink COINCIDENCE THAT UTOPIA IS DOWN TODAY?????????

dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:44 (five years ago) Permalink




dylannn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:49 (five years ago) Permalink

that this american life story from a while ago has a weird update

An acclaimed Apple critic made up the details

and then tal retracts it all: Retraction


dylannn, Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Interesting analysis of Bo Xilai's downfall:

o. nate, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

really wondering where bo is going to end up. private sector? say fuck i t and go overseas?

dylannn, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Is prison out of the question?

o. nate, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannn do you have anything to add to the reports of tanks in beijing xp

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

some china expert said that usually when demotions are announced, they'll also announce some ceremonial position also - since there wasn't one for bo's announcement it could very well mean he's going to jail

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I think there's a really nice 'prison' they send officials convicted of corruption to, it's like a minimum security hotel

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

no idea but... this is a pretty common occurrence, i think. the tanks rumour, i mean. and weibo just amplifies it...

dylannn, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i sure haven't seen anything solid enough. bo xilai is not taking zhongnanhai by force.

dylannn, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah it seemed highly improbable to me. but I don't know who's the CiC of china's military forces. or how the military is structured at all, even.

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:20 (five years ago) Permalink

hk politics is a mystery to me, really... Only 1,193 people are eligible to vote in the election, as representatives of various sectors of society. and i'm not sure where to go to try to follow it. but this is interesting, beijing throwing their support behind leung chunying.

dylannn, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

hah yeah. there's also this

hmmmmm, wonder who these 'hackers' were, it's a 'big mystery'

dayo, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:07 (five years ago) Permalink

In China's Chongqing, dismay over downfall of Bo Xilai, this kind of thing... a reporter wanders around chongqing, and we learn that luggage carriers and fruit vendors are sort of unaware of the realities of local politics: "well, he must have done SOME good stuff, right?" and then he quotes some guy from UTOPIA.

but here's a localish view of chongqing under bo basically questioning the view of bo as populist/head of successful local government. pretty good.

dylannn, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannn, Sunday, 25 March 2012 09:27 (five years ago) Permalink

sounds like a bourne movie!

dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 11:45 (five years ago) Permalink

look at this

dylannn, Friday, 30 March 2012 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i find it a bit hard to follow, maybe because i never saw the chongqing model or bo xilai as being interested in "dragging the Communist Party back toward its most radical, lawless past."

i saw bo xilai as a vaguely liberal figure, despite the singing of communist anthems or whatever. i knew leftwing fringe guys were into bo xilai but was there that much of the far left about him? i know him for the development of dalian, heading economic development in dongbei (by tearing down shitty state owned enterprises, setting up special econ zones, hammering out foreign investment deals), minister of commerce (he pops up lots in canadian politics because chretien went straight to him, and so did harper very recently).... now the guardian has a headline referring to him as a neo-maoist (to me the red songs were basically valueless, i think-- a nationalistic teambuilding exercise that didn't have a lot to do with collectivism or, like, resisting american imperialism).

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 02:26 (five years ago) Permalink

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