Winamp Sucks

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you don't need to keep stuff in the library in itunes.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

PS - HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS WINDOWS USERS

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Although it's easier if you do. I'm on your side, jon, believe it or not. I use iTunes on my PC, even though it's clunky. It's just better. And I like not even having the *option* of putting George Strait's face on my player. iTunes cares about me, and wants me to be cool.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

er... xpost

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

all my friends who use winamp are forever saving playlist files, dragging directories in and squinting at tiny little windows of tiny lists written in tiny grey text on a black background.... UGH

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I take back what I said about all skins being bad. Somebody please try to make that look better k thanx.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I used this skin for years -- it's about as good as it gets.

http://www.winamp.com/customize/component/2001/11/10/S/large_image/Oxygen_2.jpg

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

My standards are very high indeed, and that's why I use winamp. It's certainly a different paradigm and maybe you should just accept that some people do things differently. I keep my mp3 files organized into windows folders and then click on the file itself when I want to hear it. Winamp starts playing it back immediately. That's all I care about!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

so does iTunes, dood.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Patrick, why isn't it that nice by default? Most people have awful setups.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost except that it's slow. You're both right, really.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I keep my mp3 files organized into windows folders and then click on the file itself when I want to hear it. Winamp starts playing it back immediately.


Did you just upgrade from MS-DOS 5?

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't noticed iTunes being THAT slow on a PC ever. That said, I wouldn't use it with less than 256 megs of ram probably. Time to get with the 90s if you have less than that.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

QCD

I keep my mp3 files organized into windows folders and then click on the file itself when I want to hear it. Winamp starts playing it back immediately. That's all I care about!!

So why is Winamp better than the others for your purposes, Spencer? (I admit I switched to QCD because it had built-in OGG support but I think it might also have better mp3 playback plugins.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Yea, since I got an iPod (for cheap), using Ogg was out of the question. It was also annoying to have to explain to people what do to with an ogg.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon gets very emotionally involved with software. It's like that guy with cars, only without cars.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you just upgrade from MS-DOS 5?

hahaha

it's a windows thing, it really is. Remember Winamp 3, anyone? The buttons were actually invisible. They phased buttons out of the design. you were supposed to already know where the buttons were, and take some kind of perverse pride in being well-versed in this bad interface. It's a badge of geekdom or something.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

PLUS AOL OWNS IT.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

So why is Winamp better than the others for your purposes, Spencer?

Actually, QCD would be just fine. I didn't find it to be any faster than winamp so I just stuck with it. I got an OGG plugin for it. The best thing about QCD is the CD playback without any skips.

Did you just upgrade from MS-DOS 5?

No. I use XP Pro with a lot of RAM and no matter what, winamp is faster to launch than iTunes. It's the one thing I really care about with mp3s, sorry if you hate me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

if you have a lot of ram, just keep your mp3 player open. There's this thing called virtual memory and swapping to disk.....

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, maybe I don't notice the lag time so much because iTunes is *always* open on my computer, and with 512 RAM works just great, even running monster Adobe programs at the same time. I don't like the initial startup time, though, and I don't like having to remove Quicktime from my registry everytime I upgrade iTunes, because otherwise it'll slow startup down by, like, 2 minutes. Like somebody said already, Quicktime is really the proglem, not iTunes.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Right, well anyway, I'm just going to keep enjoying winamp thanks.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with everything Patrick said.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Winamp V2.91 is great ive used it foreva. Winamp 3 and everything after sucks yes i agree.

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I am kind of infatuated with QCD. The various flavors of the Aluminum Ally skin (esp. Toxic Mini and Cryogenic Mini) and the BBX Mercury Micro skin are FANTASTIC.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

oooooh, that's nice.

Also, Chaki, I use 2.9 too! Although someone told me that if you use v5 with the old skin that it's just as fast.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

nah dude stick with 2.9 seriously.

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Aside from some people who design skins who don't know their ass from their heads, whats wrong with the 'classic' Winamp design?

Tabs being placed at the bottom of the window and what else?

(The only thing I've ever hated is the random button).

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Most people have awful setups.

That's because most people have no taste.

I use XMMS. I have no idea what the theme I use is called, but I like to think it looks pretty good:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/sleepycaitlin/xmms1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/sleepycaitlin/xmms2.png

(I opened XMMS specially to take screenshots for this thread, and that was the section of the playlist that randomly came up. Clearly, it could tell what I wanted it for.)

Frankly, I can't see what's wrong with placing tabs at the bottom of a dialog.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, my point was one of the tabs was for theming. who the fuck wants a tab dedicated to theming in the middle of the main gui of their mp3 player

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

You guys are posting the worst winamp skins. There are literally thousands of them. I like a lot of the old stereo equipment ones with analog meters etc.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I use the classic one anyway.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

are you a ricer?

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know what that means. I eat rice sometimes. My dad eats it all the time.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The Equalizer/Colour Theme/Options are on a secondary panel tabbed as 'Config.' Their also on the menu for 'Options' from the main window.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a BBX Mercury skin for WinAmp.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I looked up "ricer." No, I tend to drive unmodified german sedans. However, I do sort of hot-rod my PC, but only under the hood. I'm not really into all those garish cases with neon and windows etc.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

You guys are posting the worst winamp skins. There are literally thousands of them.

but -- and I think this is jon's point -- most of them are quite bad, and having thousands of options does not improve this. "Freedom of Choice," you know, like Devo said. Eventually you just get tired of browsing skins and pick something that's terrible looking.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

That's completely illogical. Why wouldn't anyone just pick one that they like and use it?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

There are hundreds of really good ones too.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh shit, I got your PC-Mac switch the wrong way round. Tough luck.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

Foobar2000 still rules. It can use your folder structure to organise its browser and it's also pretty flood for managing metadata tags. Not sure where the Mac version is at in terms of development.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

Pretty *good.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

iTunes - is just fucking awful in every way. It's as though the people who invented it had never understood people's needs.

iTunes (or "Music" as it's now called on macOS) is very powerful and very much geared towards for 'power users' (esp if you use scripting), but indeed it does not cater at all to people who organise stuff by filenames and folders, it's 100% tags. If you don't have your tags correct, then it's useless.

Alternatives on the mac are limited. There's Swinsian and a fairly crappy foobar2000 version (PC version is much better).

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

For mass-tagging on the mac there's Yate, Musicbrainz Picard and (if you like command line) Beets.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

Don't know about mac but foobar runs very well under wine in linux and Peter is actively looking for bugs to improve compatiblity

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

people like IINA as a kind of better VLC for mac.
https://iina.io

but just to preview a file, hitting spacebar after selection lets you play it immediately.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

toaster plugin suddenly stopped working correctly and i can't figure out why

ffs

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy 25th anniversary to @Winamp!

The first version of ⚡Winamp⚡ was released as freeware on April 21st, 1997!

⚡🦙⚡

Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass! pic.twitter.com/sLYQUa0g5P

— Daniel Albu (@danielalbu) April 21, 2022

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

Lol

H.R. MacGufnstuf (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

i always expect more from DJ Mike Llama after that, but he peaked with the Llama Whippin' Intro

Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

I still use it! Just for double-clicking files in Windows to listen to individual tracks or preview things. I don't use it to organize music or listen to albums or anything. But whenever I double-click an audio file in Windows it pops up and it's somehow comforting that it functions and looks exactly the same as it did when I started using it 20+ years ago.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 24 April 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link

it remains my main music player tbh

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 April 2022 06:17 (one year ago) link

scrolling back and reading dog Latin's Mac woes, i think i had similar problems when i changed job and settled on Vox, which has worked fine ever since

koogs, Sunday, 24 April 2022 06:52 (one year ago) link

I've been using Winamp since the late 90s, and it's still my main music player.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 24 April 2022 08:04 (one year ago) link

My one complaint, which isn't really a complaint to be honest, is that the Media Library is really overspecced for what I use it for - namely managing multiple playlists. It seems like an overly complex early 2000s file explorer, kind of at odds with the main window and Playlist Editor.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 24 April 2022 08:11 (one year ago) link

Foobar 4 life motherfuckers

Number One shlong in Devon (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 April 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

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