― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Is the middle class currently better or worse off than during WWII or Vietnam?
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
If it isn't mediocrity it is mendacity. If it isn't incompetance it is megalomania. Sometimes it is all of them together in a total cringeworthy package - like our current Bubblehead-In-Chief. The sort of people who elbow their way to the top are only rarely of a noble character. I have steadily recalibrated my expectations of politicians to a very low threshold. I mostly hope they won't facilitate too much hatred, greed and destruction along the way.
Be glad your life is so good now. Try not to cringe too much at the sight of your "leaders". It helps a bit to mock them ferociously at every opportunity.
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
It also helps to have read Henry Adams.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes. Certainly. Many, many thousands of them. On the other side of the coin are the top percentile of power: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Frist, Hastert, DeLay and company. It's a progressive winnowing out process as you rise nearer to the top, and conscience is ballast that's tossed over the side.
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm with the OP on this one. My life is going pretty wonderfully, but I have a real sense of despair and panic about the direction of the world (which has become more material as I just found out my wife is having twins). I used to get by on the general sense that over time, people become more progressive, but I think that that sense was pretty naive, and even if it IS true in the big picture, there can be some pretty scary "localized" downturns as we move towards something better.
Is the answer, as Rushkoff recently said in Arthur, to just disengage? I don't know. Maybe. Somehow that feels like giving up. But on the other hand, giving up on a system that seems irreparable might be better than trying to "fix it from the inside."
― schwantz (schwantz), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
it's good that he's aware of what an anomaly he is -- he's really taking advantage of his little window of opportunity to get shit done for his city. at least he's trying and he's not all talk, no action.
― natalie portmanteau (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fluffy Bear Hearts Patricia Torres Ray (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Hey now, I didn't say white!
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
i dunno how likely this is, aside from possibly swaying moderates who think going into iraq was a shitty idea. a lot of the republicans who've turned on bush have done so because they think he's not tough enough on immigration issues -- that certainly isn't gonna make them start voting democrat though, they'll just support some other conservative who agrees with them.
― natalie portmanteau (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, all snark aside, I think we have a lot of good young blood in the Democratic party, and I think it's going to continue to improve.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Meaningless until November 2006.
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I think so too, but I'm not convinced that it will translate into votes. Every major election cycle has been labelled "the year of [insert trendy demographic here]" but each time that hasn't translated into actual numbers.
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link
"GRAVY FRIES?"
LOL
― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Saturday, 20 May 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Saturday, 20 May 2006 01:45 (seventeen years ago) link
How has this not been bumped in 14 years
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 5 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
Currently oscillating between thread title and 'complete political indifference, despite (because) not being very comfortable otherwise'.
― pomenitul, Monday, 6 July 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link
Somehow the mask divide makes me despair even more than racism. I know it shouldn’t, but it’s just the fact that something so obviously *beneficial* to society with no real drawbacks can still set off virulent political division. I mean I really, really hope the anti-mask thing is overplayed by twitter bots and sensational media. But it’s so fucking disillusioning. I just want to stay in my northeast liberal bubble forever.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 July 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
OTOH https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies.amp
Guess that’s sort of encouraging?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 July 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link
this is me. my job has kept going, I work from home, I have good savings, I'm in good health, I have 30 weeks of severance on deck if I get laid off.
but the ugliness of the world has really done a number on my emotions. on the other hand, days tend to fly back quicker cos nothing really happens, so it's making what I thought would be a long excruciating election year move faster.
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 July 2020 03:01 (three years ago) link
what I thought would be a long excruciating election year move faster.
get back to us on Oct 1st with an update. ;-)
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 6 July 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
oh for the days when things merely completely sucked
― this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Monday, 6 July 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link
oh I'm sure Oct 1 from Nov 3 will feel like 3 years
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 July 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link
There's a performativity about the mask divide which makes me think its not quite as pronounced as might appear
― anvil, Monday, 6 July 2020 07:24 (three years ago) link
Glad not to have to have that argument here in England, where the mask divide is between the 1% of the population that wear them and everyone else, who is like “what’s a mask”
― Keir’d flex (wins), Monday, 6 July 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link