Why anticipate AMERICAN GANGSTER because it look interesting

lol

Steve Gaghan, Steve Zaillian -- MEH!

OK then, given all the crap Zaillian...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001873/

...and Ridley Scott have made, why the high expecs?

it looked like it might be good

i'm anticipating we own the night.

I find it interesting that Scott hasn't really been doing promo for this, he's only talking about the Blade Runner re-release.

maybe he knows that Jay-Z is already obsessed with this, so dud

Still looking forward to this.

would this have been better if directed by Spike Lee, y/n?

it would have been better if it weren't so boring. so y probably.

I just watched the first twenty minutes of this and got really bored. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

The most you will get out of this movie is a rousing game of spot-the-rapper.

I saw an ad for this and thought the lead cop was played by Rowdy Roddy Piper. So.

http://nymag.com/guides/money/2007/39948/

also, you should read the original article. 100000x times more interesting than the movie:

http://nymag.com/nymag/features/3649/

Shit, great interview, thanks for the link!

Frank’s right. It is always about the product. Once I had a fight with a guy named Steve Austin. I had better dope. Steve knew it. He came up and knocked on the window of my car. “Yo, dude,” he said, “we don’t want you over here.”

the RZA!!!

and T.I.!!!!

"FUCK ME LIKE A COP, NOT A LAWYER"

it would have been better if it weren't so boring. so y probably.

-- s1ocki, Friday, October 19, 2007 9:01 PM

it would've been better if you had a flask of stoli in yoru coat

This looks crap.

u so crazy

standing on the verge of liking something!

it would've been better if you had a flask of stoli in yoru coat

-- moonship journey to baja, Saturday, November 3, 2007 8:23 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link

probably the only thing that could've helped so ya!

OMG i forgot the best part: STODELMEYER!!!

"standing on the verge of liking something!"

This is true, I suppose! But this film still looks rubbish!

but it's got STODELMEYER

manliest cop ever

http://tv.globo.com/ENT/Tv/Seriados/Monk/foto/0,,6233128,00.jpg

Japanese Automaker

Black Rapper

all of the other ones i can think of are too offensive

this is even worse than I expected from ILX commentary

I've never seen a mainstream/legitimate movie so devoid of drama and characters and pretty much anything of interest. Even the acting was bad.

was it necessary to specify "mainstream"

I've seen far worse made-for-tv and low-budget sci-fi/horror movies, so yeah.

what's an illegitimate movie?

skinemax

photo essay on Frank Lucas
http://www.viiphoto.com/detail-story.php?news_id=625&b=latest%20stories

i thought it was decent.

cuba gooding jr as nicky barnes was kind of o_O

i dont know wtf jordan sargent is talking about upthread ever

anyone who said this looked like it was going to be bad is crazy. that trailer is one of the best film trailers i have ever seen

doesnt live up to the trailer, tho

lol so you like t.i. as an actor or russell crowe with an american accent? or both?

the first time i saw this trailer was in theatres and when 'heart of the city' started playing i got goosebumps.

Maybe the trailers vary by country, but the one showing in UK cinemas is in no way encouraging or interesting-looking. It comes across, like the title, as really try-hard Goodfellas crime epic. Lame in the same way the start of The Departed is lame, actually, right down to "Oi, you can't use that song to set the scene, find another" problem (here, it's Across 110th Street, which Jackie Brown owns too completely).

When did Ridley Scott last make a good film?

deej shook.

(that is not rhetorical quesiton, as I haven't seen any of his films since Thelma & Louise)

Across 110th Street, which Jackie Brown owns too completely

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6b/Across_110th_Street.jpg/200px-Across_110th_Street.jpg

i thought the uk trailer was good. 'goodfellas' came out 17 years ago -- it's closer to 'the godfather pt ii' than it is to us. and gangster epics were not uncommon in the 70s. i think at this juncture it's acceptable to make a film about gangsters in new york without getting too worried that scorsese has done it: and anyway, the subject of 'goodfellas' was a footsoldier and there weren't cany cop characters. this is about frank lucas and his flat-footed nemesis.

cuba gooding jr as nicky barnes was kind of o_O

-- deej, Tuesday, November 6, 2007 11:29 PM (Tuesday, November 6, 2007 11:29 PM) Bookmark Link

WAHT?!

No no, it's not that I think it's going to be too similar to Goodfellas. It's just that straining for that kind of epicness that bothered me, If a film/trailer pulls it off, I've got no problem. But here, there's a real creakiness to it. Epitomised by that "bribery, extortion, money laundering, drug trafficking, murder" anatomising line of Crowe's. It's just felt a bit cringeworthy to me.

jordan sargent i just think that neither one did terribly and its a weird thing to come to a film w/ expectations that its going to be bad based on either actor's presence. t.i. got decent reviews for ATL and Crowe isn't a standout but hes not nicholas cage-level bad or anything either.

cuba gooding jr as nicky barnes was kind of o_O

-- deej, Tuesday, November 6, 2007 11:29 PM (Tuesday, November 6, 2007 11:29 PM) Bookmark Link

WAHT?!

-- The Reverend, Wednesday, November 7, 2007 3:28 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/mr-untouchable-leroy-barnes.article.jpg

can u see it?

Epitomised by that "bribery, extortion, money laundering, drug trafficking, murder" anatomising line of Crowe's. It's just felt a bit cringeworthy to me.

oh thats totally tacky, i just thought it was kind of awesomely tacky. so much cliche! really good looking film too.

on that note jordan s. once again on that note u were kind of off ... it wasn't a played out jay-z song that made the trailer. you were much closer with this:

they tried to KILL my wife.

-- Jordan Sargent, Friday, October 12, 2007 8:20 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

:D

brolin and assante, actually. love those guys.

crap movie

This sucked hugely. I could've definitely watched two hours of naked chicks counting dough though.

wow this sucked pretty comprehensively.

i liked it well enough. not as good as it should've been but i wouldn't say it sucks.

It's pretty weak. Good score though.

brolin turned in the one intersting performance. denzel w on autopilot for the -- what? -- tenth year running. russell crowe wasn't always this bad at playing american cops convincingly.

REALLY odd structure -- they withhold the details of the smuggling operation till two hours in. and the trial at the end, which looks like it's going to be a frame for a bunch of stuff, ie how crowe used washington to take down corrupt cops, er... disappears! perhaps the extended cut does that better.

am i right in thinking, based on the end cards, that crowe actually defends washington in the trial? not clear enough, and would have been more interesting that, say, crowe's divorce proceedings, or the zillion inserts of news from vietnam.

there were some pretty shots by harris savides.

i'm anticipating we own the night.

-- lauren, Friday, October 19, 2007 7:25 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Link

^^ much better film

we own the night is ridiculous but sort of...entertaining...

i think i liked this film better right after i saw it because i usually enjoy nyc 70s flicks like this as a rule and brolin was genuinely awesome. not sure i can stand by any other praise i had upthread, though it doesn't seem like i could think of anything to praise even then.

I can't believe this tripe began the Oscar season as a contender.

we own the night was kinda ridic but so much better.

i mean AG didn't even try to do anything as cool as the car chase in WOTN

we own the night was kind of a piece of shit and so badly paced and the dumbest story/ending i've seen in ages but yeah there was some cool stuff and i wasn't ever bored

Just saw this, finally. Not on a par with the movies it wants to be ranked with, but I liked it a lot, don't regret the time spent.

^one for the sticker

this kind of sucks

we own the night was kind of a piece of shit and so badly paced and the dumbest story/ending i've seen in ages but yeah there was some cool stuff and i wasn't ever bored
― omar little, Friday, March 28, 2008 8:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh I remember being underwhelmed as hell by WOtN

yet We Own the Night is the better film

"and afterwards, lots more stuff that is way interesting than what you've seen here happened. THE END"

I miss slocki