Saturday Night Live

there was a recent special where they talked about the Stefon skits and Hader's breaking; basically Hader and this other dude sit down and write out the clubs etc for the sketch for dress rehearsal, and then the other dude changes all of the clubs in between the dress rehearsal and the actual show with the express aim of making Hader lose his shit during the sketch

My understanding is that John Mulaney often whips up new Stefon jokes on the spot with the intention of making Hader break character as he recites lines he hasn't seen before.

Well, x-post!

both correct

haha sorry JF, next time I will pay more attention to yr parenthetical

Reminds me of Hee-Haw or something, I don't know, different strokes it's cool.

Oh, since I don't think it's been mentioned here yet: Abby Elliott did a pilot for a new Fox sitcom, so chances are good that this is her last SNL season.

she broke up with armisen, so i think that was a given already

did she break up his marriage with moss?

I heard about that. Did she and Armisen break up yet? He seems overdue.

oh not 'break up his marriage' but you know did he leave moss for elliott

Jimmy Fallon and Horatio Sanz would break just because they were goofballs.

No, it went being on being goofballs -- they came off as so smug and pleased with themselves, they didn't seem to care about making the audience laugh at all. I think that's what made them so annoying and punchable.

"having fun is more important than being funny" is basically the Fallon creed that people love his stupid late night show for

Yeah Sanz and Fallon breaking were totally "haha, look how awesome and funny we are".

He does a lot more on his Late Night show to include the audience/viewer in the jokes, though. What used to be annoying and punchable is now endearing imo.

yeah i mean to an extent it's true that he just found a more ideal format for what he's always done. i just think it's funny that he's now kind of beloved for the exact mindset that he used to get so much hate for on SNL.

i did not know this tabloid stuff about a love triangle with... fred armisen

Fred Armisen is something of a playboy.

I really don't want Abby to leave, I have such a crush on her. First they took away Casey Wilson, although she managed to bounce back pretty well, but I don't like losing all my SNL crushes.

i'm more into nasim and vanessa

Yeah, they actually have pretty cute cast right now tbh. I think my infatuation with Abby just comes from looking at her dad and thinking, "that came from that?".

Abby is just a low-rent Kate Hudson, right? That's why Fox wants her.

Nasim and Vanessa can be, at times, the funniest cast member on SNL. I've never once thought that about Abby Elliott.

First they took away Casey Wilson, although she managed to bounce back pretty well,

Casey Wilson was so-so on SNL, and is near-brilliant on Happy Endings, so I'd say things worked out for everyone. I was really bummed with they axed Michaela Watkins, though. I thought she had major potential, and while I may be the only one, I loved her "Biiiitch, pleeeaase..." blogger character.

I loved her "Biiiitch, pleeeaase..." blogger character

That shit was GOLD!

RIP Tina Tina Chaneuse

Oh yeah, I miss her. And yeah you are 100% otm with things working out great for Casey Wilson, but it wasn't looking that promising when she first got the ax from Lorne. Also, I was just bitter about the rumors that it was because she was "too fat".

Yeah, the "too fat" thing was fucked up, and also something I would totally expect from Lorne Michaels.

Yeah, sometimes (as in the cases of Casey Wilson and Jimmy Fallon) it isn't so much that a cast member is actively shitty as it is they're maybe just not the best fit for SNL. As evidenced by their success in other venues that better suit them.

I've kinda been saying this for years about Kristen Wiig, and Bridesmaids more or less confirmed it for me. I think she has a solid career ahead of her once she shakes off the wacky characters.

I didn't think Casey Wilson was funny on SNL and the writers did not seem to know what to do with her -- I don't watch or care for Happy Endings, but it sounds like a better fit.

xp: you know that Kristen Wiig did 22 movies before "Bridesmaids", right

She was great in Knocked Up.

I don't watch or care for Happy Endings

I'm crying for you on the inside.

xp: you know that Kristen Wiig did 22 movies before "Bridesmaids", right

no where you find infromations about kirsten wigs movies before kirsten wigs first movie birdsmades pleas

I wanna say there's a slight difference between her involvement in Bridesmaids and, for instance, her role in Date Night, but I can't quite articulate what it is...

Seriously, though. She's been great in most of her supporting film roles, but Bridesmaids showed her range and capability as a film lead/creative force.

yeah i mean i've seen over a dozen of Wiig's pre-Bridesmaids movies but i'll be damned if i could remember what she did in any of them besides Knocked Up off the top of my head until consulting google. it's like pointing out that Will Ferrell was in movies before Old School.

She was great in Macgruber!

(maybe that doesn't count since it's an SNL spinoff anyway)

"I peed my pants. I peed 'em."

Seriously w/r/t Will F? Zoolander + Austin Powers + Dick.

she was good in macgruber but it's not the kind of movie i readily remember the very existence of when discussing anyone besides will forte

He was so great in Dick omg

I love everyone and everything about that movie, though.

Um, A Night at the Roxbury?

Seriously w/r/t Will F? Zoolander + Austin Powers + Dick.

not paying enough attention to reading, made me think "Was Will Forte really in Dick?"

Zoolander was Ferrell's only bigger-than-a-cameo role in a movie that made a decent amount of money before Old School, i'd say his pre-2002 filmography is pretty comparable to Wiig's pre-2011

but then we're in a crazy world where people apparently remember Dick, so

I was a little surprised nobody nominated Dick for the comedy poll (haven't seen it myself).

Beyond being solidly entertaining, it has the best use of a Yes song I've ever seen in a movie.

It just seems weird to say that someone who has been in 22 movies, many of which have been commercially successful, can now finally have a good post-SNL career now that they've been nominated for a screenwriting Oscar. It's like saying Clint Eastwood's career started with "Unforgiven".

Yeah, it's weird that Clint Eastwood never had a leading role in a movie prior to Unforgiven.

lol